If Dak has a year like last year, this will be his final year with the team

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You won't find a bigger Dak fan anywhere then me. But even I can see the writing on he wall. He's not Jerrys choice. I've said this since his rookie yr. Jerry wouldn't even entertain the idea of having him starter over Romo even with him t taking the league by storm that first yr. AND it's not like Jerry doesn't throw a sunrise jab at da fk every chance he gets. I think that contract negotiation and his agent hoping the price every time they talk he was the last straw for Jerry.

If he has a yr anywhere like last yr, this will ge his final yr with the team IMO. He has 61 mil still guaranteed, and a 59mil cap hit next yr. So they can make him a June cut and save 28.5mil. Get 28.5 mil in june to sign guys like Ceedee and Diggs. Of course you have a huge hole but it is and eat it is.

https://titanswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/01/tennessee-titans-salary-cap-space-2024
Overthecap is projecting 256mil cap in 2024 and Dallas has 46 players under contract. Which means Dallas has the 51 cap number basically set. As of right now Dallas has 6.4mil in caproom another 6 in June. Dallas will need around 3mil to pay their rookies. So take 9mil in rollover for 2024. With OTC projections Dallas could walk into 2024 with a 265 mil adjected cap with 212mil already allocated. So they can have 43mil in cap space.

Now say Dak is just not getting it done, moving on from him wouldn't kill the team because they've drafted so good. The majority of the team is on rookie deals. This forum has hated this deal since it was signed because they saw 40mil AAV, but he's had 21Mil AAV since signing his deal and we're in yr 3 of 4. This shows you this team knows what they're doing with their contracts. Yeah 30mil is a big chunk, but it's alot better than 59mil. And that's 30mil for nothing just dead money if he's gone. But it doesn't kill you because you have 46 players already signed. And the core is already under contract.
 
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Dak will be here for the next 2 to 5 years regardless of what type of season he has. It is they way they wrote and caved on his contract.
Dak is in cruise control now. So we will see how much he really cares about winning, or just all money driven.
If he truly cares he will renegotiate and give cap relief on the $59 million hit in 2024.

I will wait and see how he rebounds this season, if they surround him with better OL protection and a few skill players. Make the defense a top 3 as well. He will need all the help he can get. He can't Carry the team, but he can be a very good navigator / bus driver. That is if calm water, no turbulence, and a well paved road with no pot holes. Whatever analogy one wants to use.
 

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Definitely true that the Cowboys are married to Dak. But I fully expect them to draft a QB in the mid rounds. They know that they need to develop a QB with starting potential. Dak could easily get hurt again. And if they hit on a QB, then Dak's performance will become a factor. For now though, Dak is safe.
 

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….and replaced with whom?

Last we heard an extension would be like a mob hit, wouldn’t see it coming.

I’d expect that much more than a parting of the ways.

Amazes me how many fans want to dump Dak with no replacement in house and become a six win team for until you get lucky again.

It very much stands to reason that he can limit the picks, as he has done it earlier in his career. Moore being gone should help.
 

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Dak is to Dallas as Jerry is to Dallas as an STD is to some.....something that remains forever and will never go away.
Prescott will go away at some point just like Romo did. Jethro unfortunately has been the one constant throughout. I’m not confident we’ll do better until he’s kicked the bucket or steps aside.
 

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Dak will be here for the next 2 to 5 years regardless of what type of season he has. It is they way they wrote and caved on his contract.
Dak is in cruise control now. So we will see how much he really cares about winning, or just all money driven.
If he truly cares he will renegotiate and give cap relief on the $59 million hit in 2024.

I will wait and see how he rebounds this season, if they surround him with better OL protection and a few skill players. Make the defense a top 3 as well. He will need all the help he can get. He can't Carry the team, but he can be a very good navigator / bus driver. That is if calm water, no turbulence, and a well paved road with no pot holes. Whatever analogy one wants to use.
we thought the same with Elliot too. But when the money didn’t fit the player even he was released. And he was like Jerry’s son.

Granted that’s a rb and dak plays the biggest spot in the nfl. Qb for the cowboys. And I believe dak is stephens guy not Jerry’s. So you would have more voices over jerry. And I also think jerry might be the one you see talking, but I really think Stephen is running this team now and probably has been.

I can guarantee he won’t ever be playing on a 59mil cap lol. He was signed to a 40 avg and has been at half that for 3 yrs next yr will be the last yr of his deal.

Do I think he won’t be the qb next yr? Not a chance, he will be. I think he’s going to light it up. But what I’m trying to say here is I really think if he steps on his own toes this yr I can see him gone.
 

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You’ve already given him 4 signing bonuses despite him only playing 2 years on that deal so far. Because of that, Keeping him costs 59m$ and cutting him costs 61m$.

Even if he plays much worse, he’s almost assuredly the cowboys starting QB in 2024; nevermind the rumored extension
 

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You won't find a bigger Dak fan anywhere then me. But even I can see the writing on he wall. He's not Jerrys choice. I've said this since his rookie yr. Jerry wouldn't even entertain the idea of having him starter over Romo even with him t taking the league by storm that first yr. AND it's not like Jerry doesn't throw a sunrise jab at da fk every chance he gets. I think that contract negotiation and his agent hoping the price every time they talk he was the last straw for Jerry.

If he has a yr anywhere like last yr, this will ge his final yr with the team IMO. He has 61 mil still guaranteed, and a 59mil cap hit next yr. So they can make him a June cut and save 28.5mil. Get 28.5 mil in june to sign guys like Ceedee and Diggs. Of course you have a huge hole but it is and eat it is.

https://titanswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/01/tennessee-titans-salary-cap-space-2024
Overthecap is projecting 256mil cap in 2024 and Dallas has 46 players under contract. Which means Dallas has the 51 cap number basically set. As of right now Dallas has 6.4mil in caproom another 6 in June. Dallas will need around 3mil to pay their rookies. So take 9mil in rollover for 2024. With OTC projections Dallas could walk into 2024 with a 265 mil adjected cap with 212mil already allocated. So they can have 43mil in cap space.

Now say Dak is just not getting it done, moving on from him wouldn't kill the team because they've drafted so good. The majority of the team is on rookie deals. This forum has hated this deal since it was signed because they saw 40mil AAV, but he's had 21Mil AAV since signing his deal and we're in yr 3 of 4. This shows you this team knows what they're doing with their contracts. Yeah 30mil is a big chunk, but it's alot better than 59mil. And that's 30mil for nothing just dead money if he's gone. But it doesn't kill you because you have 46 players already signed. And the core is already under contract.
As long as an extension doesn’t happen, the team can keep their options open.
 

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Last year was a strange year for Dak, he was out, came back played well with the likes of Clifford Franklin then threw picks all over the place, blew out the Bucs in a playoff game then totally poo'ed the bed against the 49ers (His worst game I've seen by far, I definitely expected more even against the #1 defense). Was just weird but for me he fell apart in a bad spot. I don't care that it was the #1 defense. That's supposed to be why he's paid A LOT of money.

So... I do think it is entirely possible that the FO may start really looking but right now I don't see any viable replacement options unless some kind of blockbuster trade happens (very unlikely). It may still be a couple years even if Dak has another weird season or continues to throw idiotic interceptions but if it does, I think some real things might start happening. Dak's not a 3 year player anymore.
 

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You won't find a bigger Dak fan anywhere then me. But even I can see the writing on he wall. He's not Jerrys choice. I've said this since his rookie yr. Jerry wouldn't even entertain the idea of having him starter over Romo even with him t taking the league by storm that first yr. AND it's not like Jerry doesn't throw a sunrise jab at da fk every chance he gets. I think that contract negotiation and his agent hoping the price every time they talk he was the last straw for Jerry.

If he has a yr anywhere like last yr, this will ge his final yr with the team IMO. He has 61 mil still guaranteed, and a 59mil cap hit next yr. So they can make him a June cut and save 28.5mil. Get 28.5 mil in june to sign guys like Ceedee and Diggs. Of course you have a huge hole but it is and eat it is.

https://titanswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/01/tennessee-titans-salary-cap-space-2024
Overthecap is projecting 256mil cap in 2024 and Dallas has 46 players under contract. Which means Dallas has the 51 cap number basically set. As of right now Dallas has 6.4mil in caproom another 6 in June. Dallas will need around 3mil to pay their rookies. So take 9mil in rollover for 2024. With OTC projections Dallas could walk into 2024 with a 265 mil adjected cap with 212mil already allocated. So they can have 43mil in cap space.

Now say Dak is just not getting it done, moving on from him wouldn't kill the team because they've drafted so good. The majority of the team is on rookie deals. This forum has hated this deal since it was signed because they saw 40mil AAV, but he's had 21Mil AAV since signing his deal and we're in yr 3 of 4. This shows you this team knows what they're doing with their contracts. Yeah 30mil is a big chunk, but it's alot better than 59mil. And that's 30mil for nothing just dead money if he's gone. But it doesn't kill you because you have 46 players already signed. And the core is already under contract.
Enjoy Dak's last season as sure as the sun will rise he will follow Zeke as a pre-June 1st 2024 cut.
Talent is lacking and the facade is almost over!
P.S. After 8 years of Mr.Goodwill and sauce it will be a pleasure having him not even find a starting job after the Boys release him.
 

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Enjoy Dak's last season as sure as the sun will rise he will follow Zeke as a pre-June 1st 2024 cut.
Talent is lacking and the facade is almost over!
P.S. After 8 years of Mr.Goodwill and sauce it will be a pleasure having him not even find a starting job after the Boys release him.
Who you gonna replace him with? Serious question. What would you do? The team is good enough to go to the playoffs every year with Dak now. Who are they going to plug and play? You can't just say ANYONE... I guess you could and some absolutely will. That's why they are on a fan forum chat room and not working in professional sports but I digress...
 

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I'm not sure the OP is wrong, but it is in everyones best interest that Dak steps it up another notch this season. No matter your opinion on Dak's play up to this point the best solution is for Dak to have a great year, and the Cowboys sign him to an extension that provides the Cowboys with significant cap relief for 2024, and hopefully a reasonable enough deal that it doesn't hurt the Cowboys past that.

That said though I think anyone who is under the impression that Dak isn't cuttable after this season is fooling themselves. As a June 1st cut the Cowboys save nearly $35M against the cap next offseason. If the Cowboys end up with a 2nd/3rd round QB like a Hendon Hooker for example it feels like Dak is being put on notice. Even without I think the cap savings from cutting him would be plenty to bring in a 1 year stop gap QB and look at the draft for a developmental player in 2024.
 

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You won't find a bigger Dak fan anywhere then me. But even I can see the writing on he wall. He's not Jerrys choice. I've said this since his rookie yr. Jerry wouldn't even entertain the idea of having him starter over Romo even with him t taking the league by storm that first yr. AND it's not like Jerry doesn't throw a sunrise jab at da fk every chance he gets. I think that contract negotiation and his agent hoping the price every time they talk he was the last straw for Jerry.

If he has a yr anywhere like last yr, this will ge his final yr with the team IMO. He has 61 mil still guaranteed, and a 59mil cap hit next yr. So they can make him a June cut and save 28.5mil. Get 28.5 mil in june to sign guys like Ceedee and Diggs. Of course you have a huge hole but it is and eat it is.

https://titanswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/01/tennessee-titans-salary-cap-space-2024
Overthecap is projecting 256mil cap in 2024 and Dallas has 46 players under contract. Which means Dallas has the 51 cap number basically set. As of right now Dallas has 6.4mil in caproom another 6 in June. Dallas will need around 3mil to pay their rookies. So take 9mil in rollover for 2024. With OTC projections Dallas could walk into 2024 with a 265 mil adjected cap with 212mil already allocated. So they can have 43mil in cap space.

Now say Dak is just not getting it done, moving on from him wouldn't kill the team because they've drafted so good. The majority of the team is on rookie deals. This forum has hated this deal since it was signed because they saw 40mil AAV, but he's had 21Mil AAV since signing his deal and we're in yr 3 of 4. This shows you this team knows what they're doing with their contracts. Yeah 30mil is a big chunk, but it's alot better than 59mil. And that's 30mil for nothing just dead money if he's gone. But it doesn't kill you because you have 46 players already signed. And the core is already under contract.
Agreed, but I think he rebounds this season. Statistically speaking, he's posted two seasons with a QB rating under 95. 2017 with a declining Dez Bryant as the #1 receiver, and last season with CeeDee, Brown, and a M.A.S.H. unit. 2018 started out rough, but the addition of Cooper supercharged the offense, and the passing game was excellent until the 2022 season.

Bringing in Cooks changed the game. CeeDee really came into his own over the second half of the season, and Gallup is a year removed from that ACL tear. Cooks is a legit mid-tier #1 receiver with some tread left on his tires, and a game-breaker over the top. With the emergence of the two young tight ends and the likelihood of adding a young running back with some juice to replace an aging Pollard, chances are that this is the best offensive cast Dak has had since entering the league.

Dak has proven that he can put up elite numbers, given the right weapons and I have no doubt that he comes back strong this season and leads one of the strongest offenses in the NFL. Time will tell, but I'm definitely excited to see how it plays out!
 

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You’ve already given him 4 signing bonuses despite him only playing 2 years on that deal so far. Because of that, Keeping him costs 59m$ and cutting him costs 61m$.

Even if he plays much worse, he’s almost assuredly the cowboys starting QB in 2024; nevermind the rumored extension
Yeah it costs more and you owe 2 mil more on a straight outright release. But you save 28.5 on a june cut. Which can be used on deals for lamb and Diggs. You still have almost 50mil in cap room before June. Dallas really did a great job with this contract. And again 30mil in dead money for 2 yrs is big. But it's less of a burden when you've drafted the way they have. So you can take it and still do what you need to.
 

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You won't find a bigger Dak fan anywhere then me. But even I can see the writing on he wall. He's not Jerrys choice. I've said this since his rookie yr. Jerry wouldn't even entertain the idea of having him starter over Romo even with him t taking the league by storm that first yr. AND it's not like Jerry doesn't throw a sunrise jab at da fk every chance he gets. I think that contract negotiation and his agent hoping the price every time they talk he was the last straw for Jerry.

If he has a yr anywhere like last yr, this will ge his final yr with the team IMO. He has 61 mil still guaranteed, and a 59mil cap hit next yr. So they can make him a June cut and save 28.5mil. Get 28.5 mil in june to sign guys like Ceedee and Diggs. Of course you have a huge hole but it is and eat it is.

https://titanswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/01/tennessee-titans-salary-cap-space-2024
Overthecap is projecting 256mil cap in 2024 and Dallas has 46 players under contract. Which means Dallas has the 51 cap number basically set. As of right now Dallas has 6.4mil in caproom another 6 in June. Dallas will need around 3mil to pay their rookies. So take 9mil in rollover for 2024. With OTC projections Dallas could walk into 2024 with a 265 mil adjected cap with 212mil already allocated. So they can have 43mil in cap space.

Now say Dak is just not getting it done, moving on from him wouldn't kill the team because they've drafted so good. The majority of the team is on rookie deals. This forum has hated this deal since it was signed because they saw 40mil AAV, but he's had 21Mil AAV since signing his deal and we're in yr 3 of 4. This shows you this team knows what they're doing with their contracts. Yeah 30mil is a big chunk, but it's alot better than 59mil. And that's 30mil for nothing just dead money if he's gone. But it doesn't kill you because you have 46 players already signed. And the core is already under contract.
Only in Dallas, the fans want to get rid of the qb that led them to back to back 12 wins season. He didn't fare well in the SF game, but he didn't have much help after Pollard went down. The week before he annihilated the Tom Brady led team.
 
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