If Dak has a year like last year, this will be his final year with the team

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I think Dak is going to tear it up because he's going to be doing some of the things he did his rookie yr. When everybody was on him about dink n dak. But nobody could stop them.

Truth be told this team should've won atleast 1 SB with dak and Elliot, no question. Just haven't had the coaching.
If they want that to happen, then they best get a RB that is similar to Zeke, in his rookie season. Because Pollard is not that RB. Unless MM has a super good game plan different from the Moore / Garrett / Linehan plan.
 

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Player A - 66 comp %, 238 YPG, 7.3 Y/A, 5.8 TD%, 3.8 INT%
Player B - 65 comp %, 261 YPG, 7.6 Y/A, 4.9 TD%, 1.2 INT%
Player C - 65 comp %, 267 YPG, 7.1 Y/A, 4.5 TD%, 2.2 INT%

I get that Rogers or Jackson are probably unrealistic due to salary however Goff, Cousins, and Dak are the three players listed. Statistically, I'm not sure we see much difference, and while they are all in different offenses and situations I'm not sure there is a drastic difference on the surrounding talent of each team.

I'd probably take Dak over Goff/Cousins, but I struggle to see an argument where the gap is very wide at all. For the level of production the Cowboys have gotten recently out of Dak I'm not sure it would be that difficult to replace, at least in the short term. Finding a long term solution is still incredibly difficult, I agree with you there.
Unless you can get a true upgrade, I don't see the point of changing out Dak with anyone available especially with an old guy like Rodgers or a guy like Jackson, who is one hit away from being ruined forever and hardly has availability as it is.

I think if anything Jerry/Stephen is upset about it, it has been Dak's injuries and availability the last couple years. I think that could lead to his eventual replacement more than his play. To even think about it they need to draft a QB that COULD possibly one day replace Dak. Until I see that, I'm not believing it will happen until they are forced to find a guy.
 

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If they want that to happen, then they best get a RB that is similar to Zeke, in his rookie season. Because Pollard is not that RB. Unless MM has a super good game plan different from the Moore / Garrett / Lineman plan.
If by some miracle Bijan is there at 26 100% he's the pick. That won't happen. But you're right, they need that guy willing to put his body on the line. A guy knowing his careers going to be short.
 

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hum didn't you jump ship last year after the last loss, or was that the year before with the same choking event in that game?


It's okay, I'll keep you a seat on the haterwagon.
It's usually the ones doing the calling out, the ones with the skeletons in their closet. Lol
 

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If they want that to happen, then they best get a RB that is similar to Zeke, in his rookie season. Because Pollard is not that RB. Unless MM has a super good game plan different from the Moore / Garrett / Linehan plan.
Zeke was VERY little help to Dak the last 4 years. He never took over a game once the line was compromised. He rarely did anything after year 3. Zeke is overblown. Pollard opens the offense up more for Dak by far. Everyone knows that.
 

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You won't find a bigger Dak fan anywhere then me. But even I can see the writing on he wall. He's not Jerrys choice. I've said this since his rookie yr. Jerry wouldn't even entertain the idea of having him starter over Romo even with him t taking the league by storm that first yr. AND it's not like Jerry doesn't throw a sunrise jab at da fk every chance he gets. I think that contract negotiation and his agent hoping the price every time they talk he was the last straw for Jerry.

If he has a yr anywhere like last yr, this will ge his final yr with the team IMO. He has 61 mil still guaranteed, and a 59mil cap hit next yr. So they can make him a June cut and save 28.5mil. Get 28.5 mil in june to sign guys like Ceedee and Diggs. Of course you have a huge hole but it is and eat it is.

https://titanswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/01/tennessee-titans-salary-cap-space-2024
Overthecap is projecting 256mil cap in 2024 and Dallas has 46 players under contract. Which means Dallas has the 51 cap number basically set. As of right now Dallas has 6.4mil in caproom another 6 in June. Dallas will need around 3mil to pay their rookies. So take 9mil in rollover for 2024. With OTC projections Dallas could walk into 2024 with a 265 mil adjected cap with 212mil already allocated. So they can have 43mil in cap space.

Now say Dak is just not getting it done, moving on from him wouldn't kill the team because they've drafted so good. The majority of the team is on rookie deals. This forum has hated this deal since it was signed because they saw 40mil AAV, but he's had 21Mil AAV since signing his deal and we're in yr 3 of 4. This shows you this team knows what they're doing with their contracts. Yeah 30mil is a big chunk, but it's alot better than 59mil. And that's 30mil for nothing just dead money if he's gone. But it doesn't kill you because you have 46 players already signed. And the core is already under contract.
If he leads the league in interceptions and they go on to win 12 games? Naw....I think they give him another year honestly.
 

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Zeke was VERY little help to Dak the last 4 years. He never took over a game once the line was compromised. He rarely did anything after year 3. Zeke is overblown. Pollard opens the offense up more for Dak by far. Everyone knows that.
You gave to run the ball to Influence the game.

I seen people posting stats about Dallas running the ball at the highest clip. Put that stat into context and you get the real picture.

You could have a 16 play drive with 10 runs for a 8min drive which there's been plenty. Then have a single run in the next 2 or 3 drives 3 and outs. Those 10 runs on that drive are basically a third or more of the carries for a game. There's a saying of quality over quantity.

You think the running game got worse when Moore took over is a coincidence?
 

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Zeke was VERY little help to Dak the last 4 years. He never took over a game once the line was compromised. He rarely did anything after year 3. Zeke is overblown. Pollard opens the offense up more for Dak by far. Everyone knows that.
As I stated, his rookie year.
 

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space is running out on the haterwagon, you want me to reserve you a seat, or wait till the end of the year? lol :)
Lol never. I been tied to dak since I first mocked him to dallas for the first time after the Sr bowl. Really liked his game because I love the old-school game. I don't like these spread offenses.
 

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Lol never. I been tied to dak since I first mocked him to dallas for the first time after the Sr bowl. Really liked his game because I love the old-school game. I don't like these spread offenses.
dak just needs to go back to chain mover on short yardage. Run the ball and dink and dunk, that's what got him in the game.
 

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You won't find a bigger Dak fan anywhere then me. But even I can see the writing on he wall. He's not Jerrys choice. I've said this since his rookie yr. Jerry wouldn't even entertain the idea of having him starter over Romo even with him t taking the league by storm that first yr. AND it's not like Jerry doesn't throw a sunrise jab at da fk every chance he gets. I think that contract negotiation and his agent hoping the price every time they talk he was the last straw for Jerry.

If he has a yr anywhere like last yr, this will ge his final yr with the team IMO. He has 61 mil still guaranteed, and a 59mil cap hit next yr. So they can make him a June cut and save 28.5mil. Get 28.5 mil in june to sign guys like Ceedee and Diggs. Of course you have a huge hole but it is and eat it is.

https://titanswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/01/tennessee-titans-salary-cap-space-2024
Overthecap is projecting 256mil cap in 2024 and Dallas has 46 players under contract. Which means Dallas has the 51 cap number basically set. As of right now Dallas has 6.4mil in caproom another 6 in June. Dallas will need around 3mil to pay their rookies. So take 9mil in rollover for 2024. With OTC projections Dallas could walk into 2024 with a 265 mil adjected cap with 212mil already allocated. So they can have 43mil in cap space.

Now say Dak is just not getting it done, moving on from him wouldn't kill the team because they've drafted so good. The majority of the team is on rookie deals. This forum has hated this deal since it was signed because they saw 40mil AAV, but he's had 21Mil AAV since signing his deal and we're in yr 3 of 4. This shows you this team knows what they're doing with their contracts. Yeah 30mil is a big chunk, but it's alot better than 59mil. And that's 30mil for nothing just dead money if he's gone. But it doesn't kill you because you have 46 players already signed. And the core is already under contract.
“Moving on wouldn’t kill the team”

Who would be our QB?
 

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If a Dak extension were imminent, there wouldn't be smoke about Dallas drafting a QB as high as Day 2 for a team with both Super Bowl aspirations and a backup on a guaranteed salary. It's also pretty obvious from how Dak's demeanor changes every time he's asked about it and refuses to give a straight answer. This isn't like last time. If he lights it up this year, he gets Hurts money. If he doesn't, then the Cowboys are trading up to take a QB in 2024.
 

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If by some miracle Bijan is there at 26 100% he's the pick. That won't happen. But you're right, they need that guy willing to put his body on the line. A guy knowing his careers going to be short.
The gap between Bijan and Gibbs can be made smaller if we also add a road grading LG and Gallup returns to form

Fix the line and I think there are 3 to 4 backs that can excel if mikes philosophy adjust accordingly
 

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You gave to run the ball to Influence the game.

I seen people posting stats about Dallas running the ball at the highest clip. Put that stat into context and you get the real picture.

You could have a 16 play drive with 10 runs for a 8min drive which there's been plenty. Then have a single run in the next 2 or 3 drives 3 and outs. Those 10 runs on that drive are basically a third or more of the carries for a game. There's a saying of quality over quantity.

You think the running game got worse when Moore took over is a coincidence?
The running game got worse when Frederick retired and Tyron started missing multiple games every year. It went in the toilet after that pretty much. Zeke's two yards and a cloud of dust didn't exactly scare defenses into loading boxes the last 5 years. That changes with Pollard. Zeke leaving is the best thing for the offense in years.
 
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