If Henson lites up NFLe?

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Nors said:
You believe that? So Henson beat Bledsoe out last camp and Parcells "rigged it"?:lmao2:

Parcells will play the best QB. Simple math - and yes results will be the same this year. Stop blaming Parcells - ask thart Henson what mort he can do!

I never said Henson beat out Bledsoe in training camp! I said that there will be no real competition with any Parcell's guys. While Bledsoe is our "best chance to win now" QB, I prefer our best chance to win for several years QB even if it means losing a few right now. That could be Henson or it could be Romo, we will never know as long as Bill is here. Hell they really messed Henson up last year by changing his throwing motion. The funny thing is that his old motion was not really a whole lot different than Bledsoes.
 

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Do we give him the starting nod and cut Bledsoe?

He's more mobile and better equipped to play behind a poor line? Sure it will set the organization back a few years but team can then stocpile top 10 picks. By the time Henson starts to hit 30 we can contend around 2010?

Or do we stay the course - draft playmakers and shore up line and make a run now?


Thoughts?

The level of play in NFLE is soo poor that it really is not an indicator of NFL starting caliber competition. Sure, a small handful of players have made the jump but the only players there that are on these NFLE rosters are THIRD string or prsctice squad players and the rest are locals who cannot even sniff an NFL practice squad.

Let's say he does great and "lights it up". To judge his ability to be a LEGIT starting QB in the NFL based on 10 games in this "beyond MINOR" league will be foolish. While it maybe promising to see SOMETHING from him in NFLE it might very well turn out to be like staying up all night waiting for Santa Clause only to find out he IS in fact real but showed up without presents when he steps on the feild in the "big leagues".

In other words: Take NFLE with a Texas sized grain of salt, don't forget the level of competition you're seeing and finally, don't be surprised IF he comes back even after an NFLE MVP season to return to his familiar spot as the third string Cowboys on the NFL roster of the Dallas Cowboys....

Let's not forget that just last week Drew Henson said on 103.3 that he is still "developing".

I wish him well in NFLE. If he is to be an NFL QB in Dallas or any city, he does need all the reps he can get to keep developing.. And who knows, with two seasons of NFLE plus 2 more camps, maybe Henson will be ready to take over the spot in 2008 after Bledsoe retires.

One thing is for sure...We will not know that answer in 2006....At this point you just want to see at least a GLIMMER of hope for 2008.......

Stay tuned.......
 

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I just hope Henson lights it up and breaks ALL of the NFLE passing records.......ALL OF THEM!......did I say all of them?
 

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Nors said:
Do we give him the starting nod and cut Bledsoe?

He's more mobile and better equipped to play behind a poor line? Sure it will set the organization back a few years but team can then stocpile top 10 picks. By the time Henson starts to hit 30 we can contend around 2010?

Or do we stay the course - draft playmakers and shore up line and make a run now?


Thoughts?

Parcells is only here for 2 more years, I think he wants to do something in those 2 years

so no

and Henson isn't going to light it up in NFLE
 

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Wolverine said:
It will not matter how great Henson plays. As long as Parcells is here Henson will never see the field.

Parcells is only here for 2 more years, plenty of time left for Henson
 

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What will happen?

Well, first anyone who thought he had an ounce of talent will start chest thumping, and patting themselves on the back. (Myself included)

We'll continue to be more and more thrilled about the prospect of him taking over one day.

Bledsoe will struggle (it's inevitable) one game. This will result in a horde calling for his head, claiming Parcells would NEVER allow a young guy to play (despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary) along with new pictures every hour of Bledsoe getting sacked, courtesy of Zaxor.

This will result in further, unrelenting criticism of Bledsoe, which will consistently ignore and overlook any possible factor that may have contributed to his rough day.

There, that should about sum it up.

:lmao:
 

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goshan said:
He won't light up NFLe. I predict he is mediocre.
Book IT.

By the way, I can't believe anyone responded to this post seriously knowing Sister Nors.

Where do I get one of these crystal balls that so many people on here seem to have?

It would sure make it alot easier for me to use cliched phrases like "book it."

Any advice on the games this weekend? cuz daddy's on a losing streak!:abuseme:
 

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Henson's window of opportunity is closing. He may end up being a career back-up.

I think the only reason the Cowboys are sending him to NFLE is to possibly build some trade interest for him (as a backup).
 

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Henson's window of opportunity is closing. He may end up being a career back-up.

How, exactly, do you come to that conclusion?

Is it based on the fact that he is all of 25 years old?

Trent Green, aside from 1 year with the Skins, never had a chance to start until 2001, at the ripe old age of 31. All he's done over the past 4 years is post QB ratings in the 90s, and throw for one of the highest yardage totals in the league over that span.

Matt Hasselbeck's first full season came at the age of 28. Same with Jake Delhomme.

Frankly, I don't see how anyone can assume anything either way. The kid's got all the talent in the world. He was away from the game for a long time. Bill's working on him.
 

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superpunk said:
How, exactly, do you come to that conclusion?

Is it based on the fact that he is all of 25 years old?

Trent Green, aside from 1 year with the Skins, never had a chance to start until 2001, at the ripe old age of 31. All he's done over the past 4 years is post QB ratings in the 90s, and throw for one of the highest yardage totals in the league over that span.

Matt Hasselbeck's first full season came at the age of 28. Same with Jake Delhomme.

Frankly, I don't see how anyone can assume anything either way. The kid's got all the talent in the world. He was away from the game for a long time. Bill's working on him.

I realize that he is still rather young.

Matt Hasselbeck was a starter by the time he was Hensons age.
Delhomme took an obviously different path. He was under Ditka who tied his entire career to Ricky Williams. Not to mention Tolliver, Blake and Brooks were the QBs. Simply put they have more experience. Personally I think Delhomme is overrated.

Trent Green is the one that got away according to Gibbs. He was a fan favorite and it was sad to see him go but he had really proven nothing. Thus the reason to let him walk. But playing under Parcells is very different than playing under Turner, or Vermeil. I hate to say it but I think most of you realize its true.
 

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Even if Henson were to light of NFLe as long as Parcells and Bledsoe are here he'll just be sitting on the bench no matter how good or bad we play.
 

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SkinsandTerps said:
Delhomme took an obviously different path. He was under Ditka who tied his entire career to Ricky Williams. Not to mention Tolliver, Blake and Brooks were the QBs. Simply put they have more experience. .

And Drew Bledsoe is chopped liver? Henson's first year back, he was under Vinny. Both guys more accomplished than any of the players you listed.

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But playing under Parcells is very different than playing under Turner, or Vermeil. I hate to say it but I think most of you realize its true.

Explain this. If you mean in terms of offensive systems, you couldn't be more wrong. Under Parcells, we've had three of the most dynamic passing years in Cowboys history. Quincy freaking Carter is seventh all time in single season passing.

There is absolutely no reason to say that Henson has no shot, or his window is closing. He's young. The coaching staff has nothing but good things to say about him. He has all the talent in the world, and he's playing for a coach that has made stars out of similar QBs. Conversely, there's no reason to get overly excited about him, regardless of his performance in europe. He's proved nothing yet, and is just potential now, like all the other QBs manning the backup spot.
 

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abersonc said:
Does anyone realistically expect Henson to unseat a guy who has HOF stats? (Not saying he's a HOF QB - but he's got better stats than many of the guys in there)

Better Question:

Does anyone realistically expect Parcells to allow Henson to fairly contend with one of his Parcells' Boys in training camp?

After all this is the same man who continued to start a washed up and injured Vinny Testaverde after being mathematically eliminated from the playoffs for the mere purpose of spiting Jerry Jones and the local fans for demanding Henson.
 

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And Drew Bledsoe is chopped liver? Henson's first year back, he was under Vinny. Both guys more accomplished than any of the players you listed.

In the state Vinny was in at the time, he wasn't close to being better than any of the QB's you mentioned. I don't care what Vinny did with the Jets 7 years ago, he wasn't that QB in 2004.


Explain this. If you mean in terms of offensive systems, you couldn't be more wrong. Under Parcells, we've had three of the most dynamic passing years in Cowboys history. Quincy freaking Carter is seventh all time in single season passing.

Define dynamic? Quincy being 7th all time among our passers isn't saying much considering Dallas QB's generally don't post impressive passing stats since we run the ball so much. We have never had a QB surpass 4000 yards in a season as a quick example

He has all the talent in the world, and he's playing for a coach that has made stars out of similar QBs.

Like who, Jeff Hostetler and Phil Simms? Vinny was already a Pro Bowler prior to playing for Parcells. Bledsoe was the 1st overall pick. This isn't like Mike Holmgren grooming a late round pick like Matt Hasselback.

Conversely, there's no reason to get overly excited about him, regardless of his performance in europe. He's proved nothing yet, and is just potential now, like all the other QBs manning the backup spot.

He started Bledsoe when he was a rookie. Bledsoe was an unproven player. So I suppose it's okay for him to break with his philosophy when it's convenient. The only difference between then and now is that Parcells had the patience to actually develop a rookie QB and didn't feel compelled to win now at the expense of mortgaging the future. I can't say I blame him considering his age.
 

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I have more faith in Vinny being resigned after Bledsoes run here is done to then be our starting quarterback until his 65th retirement birthday. Then maybe after that Henson will be ready. 25 years on the bench with 20 of those spent in NFLe should be about right for Henson to then become our starting quarterback of the not-so-near distant future, around...2050. Yea, that's about his learning curve.

I'm being serious, this guy is a bust.
 

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CowboyExpress said:
I have more faith in Vinny being resigned after Bledsoes run here is done to then be our starting quarterback until his 65th retirement birthday. Then maybe after that Henson will be ready. 25 years on the bench with 20 of those spent in NFLe should be about right for Henson to then become our starting quarterback of the not-so-near distant future, around...2050. Yea, that's about his learning curve.

I'm being serious, this guy is a bust.



intelligence is running strong in this post
 

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mr.jameswoods said:
In the state Vinny was in at the time, he wasn't close to being better than any of the QB's you mentioned. I don't care what Vinny did with the Jets 7 years ago, he wasn't that QB in 2004.

There's a difference between "better"-which you said - and "more accomplished"-which is what I said.

Define dynamic? Quincy being 7th all time among our passers isn't saying much considering Dallas QB's generally don't post impressive passing stats since we run the ball so much. We have never had a QB surpass 4000 yards in a season as a quick example

Yes, I know. That would probably the reason why I said three of the most dynamic seasons.

He started Bledsoe when he was a rookie. Bledsoe was an unproven player. So I suppose it's okay for him to break with his philosophy when it's convenient. The only difference between then and now is that Parcells had the patience to actually develop a rookie QB and didn't feel compelled to win now at the expense of mortgaging the future. I can't say I blame him considering his age.

And why can't he win now, while planning for the future? Why is that so unfathomable?I gave examples of guys who sat on the bench, being groomed, becoming acclimated to the game, before they got their shot. Why can't that be what Parcells is doing with Henson? I get it. People hate Bledsoe. Guess what? We can have our cake and eat it too. Just because other franchises throw away entire seasons at the expense of a single player, doesn't mean the Cowboys have to.
 

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And why can't he win now, while planning for the future? Why is that so unfathomable?I gave examples of guys who sat on the bench, being groomed, becoming acclimated to the game, before they got their shot. Why can't that be what Parcells is doing with Henson? I get it. People hate Bledsoe. Guess what? We can have our cake and eat it too. Just because other franchises throw away entire seasons at the expense of a single player, doesn't mean the Cowboys have to.



Because Parcells is evil and he is the devil haven't you learned yet Superpunk. Everything Bill does has some ulterior motive behind it because he is working on his evil plan to destroy the Cowboys. Come on man get with the times! lol
 

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Just by way of precedent;
Rohan Davey Pats' backup QB went to NFLE and "lit it up" last year.
Was named league MVP. His reward? Released and replaced with 44 year
old Doug Flutie.

NFLE is great to get a work out and some snaps but it ranks right up there with Division 2 college football.
 
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