If Lance were signed for next 3 years

[atlantacowboy]

I think Lance leaving is a foregone conclusion. If they had any plans to re-sign him and develop him, he'd be out there in these meaningless games.

 

[Chasing6]

I think Lance leaving is a foregone conclusion. If they had any plans to re-sign him and develop him, he'd be out there in these meaningless games.

Correction. He is being dismissed.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Correction. He is being dismissed.

semantics......not sure why they let him stick around all year.

 

[Chasing6]

semantics......not sure why they let him stick around all year.

Guaranteed contract.

 

[conner01]

I would think yes. However we are dealing with a FO that is stupid.
He should be playing now regardless.

I don’t get why he’s not playing but I’m sure happy he’s NOT signed for next 3 years

 

[Chasing6]

I don’t get why he’s not playing but I’m sure happy he’s NOT signed for next 3 years

He is not playing because GM Jerry is still trying to win games for some ******* reason.

 

[john van brocklin]

Why sign a QB and a dual-threat one at that, who is raw with limited college experience and instead of developing him, let him sit. This situation would be ideal for him to get in-game experience and develop as a QB.
For the FO to invest draft capital in the player, only to let him languish and let him become a free-agent at the end of the season is inexplicable…but then again it’s the Jones’ boys.
Would love to know what they were thinking, or not, when they made the deal.
Seems this FO does nothing but impede and handicap the progress of this team.

We need a professional GM in the worse way.
Until we do, we ain't winning squat.

 

[DuncanIso]

KMoore + Trey Lance

 

[Chasing6]

KMoore + Trey Lance

The Trance is over. No one wants more.

 

[DuncanIso]

I think Lance leaving is a foregone conclusion. If they had any plans to re-sign him and develop him, he'd be out there in these meaningless games.

They are hiding him.

 

[Jimbo123]

He would only play with a 3-year contract if it were in the UFL.

KMoore + Trey Lance

= 4 and 13

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Disagree, you take the risk on talented players, Parcells taught that to Jerry.

sorry. what talent is that? he was 3rd string in SF and he has struggled beating Rush to back up job.
Jerry's ego is keeping him around...

 

[conner01]

He is not playing because GM Jerry is still trying to win games for some ******* reason.

Exactly. Jerry wants those meaningless games

 

[charron]

Backups will not play while you have a 60+ million dollar a year starter. And how much do you think it'll take to keep lance? He isn't free. If I am lances agent I wouldn't take more than a 2 year deal here so if the boys release dak in 2 years they'd have to pay lance to start.

 

[Gonzomandela01]

sorry. what talent is that? he was 3rd string in SF and he has struggled beating Rush to back up job.
Jerry's ego is keeping him around...

Talent is potential not yet achieved.

Sometimes never achieved.

Taken third over all in the NFL draft is what most scouts and coaches would qualify as talent, he was injured his first year that affected his development, trading for him was a gamble, didn't pan out.

Of course Jerry's ego is keeping him around, that is not the point, at the time of the trade it was not unreasonable IMO.

 

[Chasing6]

Talent is potential not yet achieved.

Sometimes never achieved.

Taken third over all in the NFL draft is what most scouts and coaches would qualify as talent, he was injured his first year that affected his development, trading for him was a gamble, didn't pan out.

Of course Jerry's ego is keeping him around, that is not the point, at the time of the trade it was not unreasonable IMO.

He was drafted on potential.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Talent is potential not yet achieved.

Sometimes never achieved.

Taken third over all in the NFL draft is what most scouts and coaches would qualify as talent, he was injured his first year that affected his development, trading for him was a gamble, didn't pan out.

Of course Jerry's ego is keeping him around, that is not the point, at the time of the trade it was not unreasonable IMO.

if you are talking about his ability to throw the ball hard and run, then I can point to 100s of college players that can do the same. none are in the NFL. that's not talent that can make a good NFL QB....NFL is full of those types through out its history. .

the talent for NFL QBs has to be between the ears. that's why a player like Rush is in the NFL. he has no NFL arm talent. he can't run, but is smart. when you have both, then you get mahomes.

so Lance has not shown a lot of talent or potential between the ears. the game so far is too big for him. he hasn't shown he has learned enough and fast enough to be a viable NFL starter. people want to waste 5 years for him to learn, why? because he can run a 4.4 .......
and you don't trade a 4th round pick for a back up player (unless you are the cowboys where you spend an entire draft for special teams as they once did).

and scouts, project. they looked at physical ability. and they had no point of reference to compare to NFL and all they had was his college level where he played in lower divisions. they gambled as NFL teams do on QB and this one became obvious quickly that he doesn't have NFL QB potential. perhaps back up at some point.

at the time of the trade, it was unreasonable IMHO. I screamed it back then too. he over paid, because he tends to get excited about shiny toys. he is not a good GM. other teams were willing to gamble a 6th round pick. which only about 5% of the players from that round make it anyway. there are a lot of solid starters taken in the 4th round. just look at the cowboys history alone.

 

[Chasing6]

if you are talking about his ability to throw the ball hard and run, then I can point to 100s of college players that can do the same. none are in the NFL. that's not talent that can make a good NFL QB....NFL is full of those types through out its history. .

the talent for NFL QBs has to be between the ears. that's why a player like Rush is in the NFL. he has no NFL arm talent. he can't run, but is smart. when you have both, then you get mahomes.

so Lance has not shown a lot of talent or potential between the ears. the game so far is too big for him. he hasn't shown he has learned enough and fast enough to be a viable NFL starter. people want to waste 5 years for him to learn, why? because he can run a 4.4 .......
and you don't trade a 4th round pick for a back up player (unless you are the cowboys where you spend an entire draft for special teams as they once did).

and scouts, project. they looked at physical ability. and they had no point of reference to compare to NFL and all they had was his college level where he played in lower divisions. they gambled as NFL teams do on QB and this one became obvious quickly that he doesn't have NFL QB potential. perhaps back up at some point.

at the time of the trade, it was unreasonable IMHO. I screamed it back then too. he over paid, because he tends to get excited about shiny toys. he is not a good GM. other teams were willing to gamble a 6th round pick. which only about 5% of the players from that round make it anyway. there are a lot of solid starters taken in the 4th round. just look at the cowboys history alone.

Between their ears comes with a brain and playing time experience to make mistakes and learn.

He has had little to zero playing experience at all 3 levels of football.

 

[Gonzomandela01]

He was drafted on potential.

Agreed

 

[Gonzomandela01]

if you are talking about his ability to throw the ball hard and run, then I can point to 100s of college players that can do the same. none are in the NFL. that's not talent that can make a good NFL QB....NFL is full of those types through out its history. .

the talent for NFL QBs has to be between the ears. that's why a player like Rush is in the NFL. he has no NFL arm talent. he can't run, but is smart. when you have both, then you get mahomes.

so Lance has not shown a lot of talent or potential between the ears. the game so far is too big for him. he hasn't shown he has learned enough and fast enough to be a viable NFL starter. people want to waste 5 years for him to learn, why? because he can run a 4.4 .......
and you don't trade a 4th round pick for a back up player (unless you are the cowboys where you spend an entire draft for special teams as they once did).

and scouts, project. they looked at physical ability. and they had no point of reference to compare to NFL and all they had was his college level where he played in lower divisions. they gambled as NFL teams do on QB and this one became obvious quickly that he doesn't have NFL QB potential. perhaps back up at some point.

at the time of the trade, it was unreasonable IMHO. I screamed it back then too. he over paid, because he tends to get excited about shiny toys. he is not a good GM. other teams were willing to gamble a 6th round pick. which only about 5% of the players from that round make it anyway. there are a lot of solid starters taken in the 4th round. just look at the cowboys history alone.

Hey a lot of good points, we just differ on if the trade was reasonable or not, I'll leave it at that.