If No QB taken in the first do we bother later

[Kaiser]

QBs have always been the exception to the rule in the NFL.

For the wait until 2-3 years later crowd.

This is the type of thinking that got us to OVER draft Quincy Carter (yes over draft even in the 2nd). We screwed the pooch by making a last ditch effort to help Aikman so we had no first round pick.

I don't follow that. Quincy Carter was a 4th round pick the team overdrafted in the 2nd and put into the starting lineup immediately. And to top it off, he was the wrong guy for even a 4th round selection because of the "million dollar airport, ten cent control tower" issue.

The 2 or 3 years crowd (like me) is saying you sign a guy like RGIII to be the backup in that period while you develop a draft pick that came as good value - like Lynch in the 2nd round or Prescott in the 4th.

 

[Nightman]

I don't follow that. Quincy Carter was a 4th round pick the team overdrafted in the 2nd and put into the starting lineup immediately. And to top it off, he was the wrong guy for even a 4th round selection because of the "million dollar airport, ten cent control tower" issue.

The 2 or 3 years crowd (like me) is saying you sign a guy like RGIII to be the backup in that period while you develop a draft pick that came as good value - like Lynch in the 2nd round or Prescott in the 4th.

I like the idea of a veteran back-up but only for next year.

I think Goff and Wentz and possibly Lynch can be long term NFL starters. I think this is our only chance at getting someone that talented.

We can keep first rounders for up to 6 years before UFA so sitting for a year or two shouldn't be a problem.

 

[31smackdown]

I think Wentz blowing up is throwing a wrench in their plans. They probably figured the guy would be a late first round guy that they could go grab as a successor and now they have to decide if they want to spend #4 on the future instead of improving next years team with a starter. I think they are scrambling now because I don't think they want Wentz or Goff at 4. I still think they trade down and improve the team in terms of starters for next year. If Wentz, Goff or Lynch happens to slide a little to the middle of the first then they'll take them, but that seems more and more unlikely for that to happen.

 

[Kaiser]

I don't follow that. Quincy Carter was a 4th round pick the team overdrafted in the 2nd and put into the starting lineup immediately. And to top it off, he was the wrong guy for even a 4th round selection because of the "million dollar airport, ten cent control tower" issue.

Speaking of the Towering Intellect of Quincy Carter, I just saw an article that Marshawn Lynch made 50 Million dollars in salary in his career and saved every penny of it. He lived off his endorsement money like Gronk has.

 

[Nightman]

Speaking of the Towering Intellect of Quincy Carter, I just saw an article that Marshawn Lynch made 50 Million dollars in salary in his career and saved every penny of it. He lived off his endorsement money like Gronk has.

Forrest Gump type smarts.

 

[4lifecowboy]

Hackenburg in the 3rd or Brissett or Jones in the 4th

 

[Kaiser]

Forrest Gump type smarts.

Sounds smart to me. I heard he pays the girl in the Pepsi commercial with him to follow him around. Every time someone asks him for money he lip syncs and the girl says "Forget it".

 

[Nightman]

Sounds smart to me. I heard he pays the girl in the Pepsi commercial with him to follow him around. Every time someone asks him for money he lip syncs and the girl says "Forget it".

That's what I mean, everything he touches turns to gold but people keep doubting him.

 

[rockj7]

I don't think they take one at all. I think they sign RGIII to a two year deal in FA and roll with Romo/RG/Moore. Go defense heavy in the draft. JJ is sold on Romo being the man for 3 more years.

JJ's time is now. I don't think he is looking at 10 years from now.

Yes Sir Defense Defense Defense my dream would be that our dline is so good that it makes our o line even better by practicing against it and vice versa

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I think that is what is going to happen anyway. They'll try and take a Kevin Hogan. I'm not really into that plan.

I don't care about the scouts Big Board.

What I care about is if they think with the right coaching and support cast, what do they feel are the QB's chances of becoming a future franchise QB? We don't need a QB to play right away. We need to figure out something for the future and I would rather try and get the player with the most potential that is not a worry when it comes healthy and/or attitude. If he had some big throwing mechanics issues or has to get acclimated with a pro offense, those are things he can work on while he sits.

I don't really care if the QB is ready to go now.






YR

 

[RS12]

I don't follow that. Quincy Carter was a 4th round pick the team overdrafted in the 2nd and put into the starting lineup immediately. And to top it off, he was the wrong guy for even a 4th round selection because of the "million dollar airport, ten cent control tower" issue.

The 2 or 3 years crowd (like me) is saying you sign a guy like RGIII to be the backup in that period while you develop a draft pick that came as good value - like Lynch in the 2nd round or Prescott in the 4th.

RG3 wont lead this team anywhere. If Mike Shanahan couldnt fix him, nobody here will either.

 

[Beast_from_East]

If we don't take a QB in the first round we will bother to take one later?

And by taking one later, I mean with the idea of one later being viewed as successor to Romo vs just a Backup QB?

Maybe it is just me but I don't think they bother taking a QB till the later rounds IF they do not take one at 4. And if that is the case I don't think they will view that later round QB as a project that will take over for Romo down the road as much as they view them as a backup QB project.

Of course this is all speculation on my part.

I would not be shocked at all if they do not take a QB at 4...if they don't take a QB at all.

Might as well not bother..........look at the percentages of QBs taken outside the first round that turn into franchise QBs.................very small number.

And remember guys, this is the same staff that lost 11 out of 12 games coaching up 3 different vet QBs so the odds of them coaching up a mid round QB is almost laughable. We need a guy that is as close to a finished product as possible, the least amount of coaching he needs the better. That aint happening outside of round 1, so don't bother with this staff.

 

[Dwight]

If a QB is not taken in the first round I prefer Dallas to target Brandon Doughty in the third or fourth rounds.

I feel he is a sleeper pick and would allow the team to draft a WR or DT in the first and second rounds.

 

[jnday]

The only one I think we could get at Round 2 or later is Connor Cook. MSU runs a pro offense and become QBU.

I liked Dak Prescott when I thought we could get him in the 6th and stash him, but his stock has risen into the 2-3rd round. Too high to Practice Squad.

I see Dak Prescott mentioned a lot on this board and I don't understand why. He is a great kid and a decent college QB, but Dak is not a NFL caliber QB prospect . I have watched him his entire Mississippi State career and Dak does not have the talent to even be a NFL backup. He would be a waste of a draft pick IMO. He is a really good person and I hope he can find a way to make a roster, but I hope it is not with the Cowboys.

 

[MikeT22]

If we pass in the first round I would pass in rounds 2 and 3 too. It's a deep draft and I don't want to see us waste either of our day 2 picks on a QB that isn't nearly as good as any of the 3 first rounders.
At most I'd use a 4th or 5th depending on who is available. Could find a young quality long term backup and always an outside chance he could develop and be better than that. But I really don't like the 2nd group of QB's such as Connor Cook, Hackenberg or even Prescott. I think it would be a terrible waste of a 2nd / 3rd round pick.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

If we don't take a QB in the first round we will bother to take one later?

And by taking one later, I mean with the idea of one later being viewed as successor to Romo vs just a Backup QB?

Maybe it is just me but I don't think they bother taking a QB till the later rounds IF they do not take one at 4. And if that is the case I don't think they will view that later round QB as a project that will take over for Romo down the road as much as they view them as a backup QB project.

Of course this is all speculation on my part.

I would not be shocked at all if they do not take a QB at 4...if they don't take a QB at all.

If we build the team and give Romo another shot before getting his successor then picking up late round QB for backup isn't a bad idea. Then see how next season goes and where Romo stands. ....is he good for 3 more years or will he be done. If he is done then go all out and start fresh

 

[BubbleScreen]

Let's face it. Other than Kitna, I haven't been impressed with the free agent backups in the Romo era. We draft Stephen McGee, who won one more game than Brandon Weedon as a starter, and who else?

To get the next guy we have to invest draft capital and/or lots of cash.

There aren't many franchise QBs. You draft 'em high or try to sign them away from who drafted them. The latter kills the cap; the former requires development.

 

[Westcoasthabsfan]

Unless one of the big 3 falls to our 2nd Rd pick, I have zero interest in another QB just to be a future b/u. You either draft one who has the potential to be a franchise QB or you go all in on Romo. I see no reason to waste a pick on a total project QB.

big three?
Lynch is dropping like a ton o bricks....no way they take him at 4....

 

[AzorAhai]

big three?
Lynch is dropping like a ton o bricks....no way they take him at 4....

So what? He's still in the top tier well above every other QB behind him. So yes, big 3.

 

[IAmLegend]

Brandon Allen in the 5th (with an acquired pick via trade). That would be my guess.