If the MVP comes down to Dak vs Lamar Jackson

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Wins > Stats. That’s what they play for.
It's a team sport and strength of victories matter at a very high level. If I had a beef with the GM Jerry, he first wants the most talented available then and there. He leaves the bringing together to the Head Coach and not really seeing the when and how the team is lead to being as top shelf as there is around.
 

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He might but let's see what he does vs Miami. He plays well and they win, he will win it.

If not...we will see.
The Ravens just whipped the 49ers. I do not doubt that the Dolphins will get an even worse whipping. Guaranteed.
 

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Probably weakest year for QB's in don't even know how long. I would have loved Reek to continue his torrid pace and win it. CMac is certainly a valid candidate. Personally I would be fine with Trent Williams. MVP should not be QB specific or team record IMO.
 

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The Ravens defense crushes opponents like a python. All Lamar has to do is make a few plays a game and don’t turn the ball over. Lamar is one a of a kind.
The average fan can't name a Ravens receiver though and when Lamar takes it himself he can go 70. Calling cards for what the player is doing for his team.
 

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The average fan can't name a Ravens receiver though and when Lamar takes it himself he can go 70. Calling cards for what the player is doing for his team.
To be honest the average fan can’t name one player on their defense but they beat our defense at every position but our 3 corners (including Diggs) and Micah. They destroy us up the middle at defensive tackle, linebacker, and safety.
 

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If Dak would of went 2-0 the last 2 weeks they'd already have his name on the trophy. He didn't.

Dak can't go 2-0 or 0-2 by himself. This is a team game and it definitely was the team who went 0-2.

Maybe a different conversation if it was boxing, golf or tennis.
 

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They destroy us up the middle at defensive tackle, linebacker, and safety.
One of the big reasons teams are never really that eager to play them. They build their core understanding that it will always give them a chance to be competitive against any team \ scheme.

I don't have any ties to them but I do respect they way they build their team and the fact that you rarely see them beating themselves or not playing with a ton of aggression.

I think they have as legit a shot as anyone to be the AFC champ.
 

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Come on stop man! It’s embarrassing. It is true. Romo didn’t get 90% of the line or toys Dak has been gifted and had them in position. Dak literally had more and is in the same playoff spot. We were gifted both QBs but both have failed in big games. We can blame whatever but I think our main failure is between the ears because we have players blaming refs and D captains making fun of other QBs etc. It starts at Jones and excuses. We should have won much more with both QBs. They are both talented. We have a club issue

Happy New Year Bud!
No, you stop! Get your feelings in check. I'm stating facts.

Happy New Year bro!
 

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Is this a Joke?
When did the NFL play for stats and not results?
Ya, its a Joke...............just like our QB is!

Our quarterback?? You're a Cowboys fan?? Why does a Cowboys fan disappear after wins with absolutely nothing positive to say about the Cowboys.....

Yet come around after every loss with plenty of negative things to say about the Cowboys?

What Cowboys fan disappear totally without anything positive to say about the Cowboys players DURING a five game win streak???

Make that make sense kid....
 

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Dak can't go 2-0 or 0-2 by himself. This is a team game and it definitely was the team who went 0-2.

Maybe a different conversation if it was boxing, golf or tennis.

So you think if the Cowboys went 2-0 it wouldn't of changed his mvp chances? In both games Dak could of made plays to help win that he never made.
 

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So you think if the Cowboys went 2-0 it wouldn't of changed his mvp chances? In both games Dak could of made plays to help win that he never made.

The whole team could have made plays to win those games but they didn't. When Dak led that last td drive last week, it wasn't his fault that the DEFENSE allowed Miami to march right downfield in scoring range.

Did Dak play his best game in Miami? No. But did he make some great throws and lead us to a potential game winning drive?? Absolutely.

In Buffalo, both the offense AND defense played all around bad. It's just laughable that Dak got blamed for the defense giving up damn near 300 yards rushing to the Bills... Dak's expected to perform miracles without a running game AND play defensive tackle too??
 

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One of the big reasons teams are never really that eager to play them. They build their core understanding that it will always give them a chance to be competitive against any team \ scheme.

I don't have any ties to them but I do respect they way they build their team and the fact that you rarely see them beating themselves or not playing with a ton of aggression.

I think they have as legit a shot as anyone to be the AFC champ.
I live in Baltimore. The irony is their fans complain that Ravens overpaid for safeties and linebackers like our fans get mad at the Cowboys for overpaying Zeke, Tank, and Jalen. Lamar is just as hated in Baltimore as Dak is as a Cowboys. My girlfriend loves the Ravens but hates Lamar. She says he looks like a junky on the corner. Three years ago she said she would offer Lamar a take it or leave it 18 million dollar a season contract. If he rejected it she would have traded him. She told me don’t take to me about Lamar until he gets the Super Bowl he promised. Sound familiar……..
 

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The whole team could have made plays to win those games but they didn't. When Dak led that last td drive last week, it wasn't his fault that the DEFENSE allowed Miami to march right downfield in scoring range.

Did Dak play his best game in Miami? No. But did he make some great throws and lead us to a potential game winning drive?? Absolutely.

In Buffalo, both the offense AND defense played all around bad. It's just laughable that Dak got blamed for the defense giving up damn near 300 yards rushing to the Bills... Dak's expected to perform miracles without a running game AND play defensive tackle too??

All I said was if Dak went 2-0 he would of won the MVP and he didn't. I'm 100 % right. He and the offense have played average in both games. I don't need to defend him like you all do. I get to call it as I see because I'm a Cowboy fan more then a Dak Homer.

The other nice thing is I get to cheer for him when he plays good too...but I don't have to pretend he is the best in the league.
 

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All I said was if Dak went 2-0 he would of won the MVP and he didn't. I'm 100 % right. He and the offense have played average in both games. I don't need to defend him like you all do. I get to call it as I see because I'm a Cowboy fan more then a Dak Homer.

The other nice thing is I get to cheer for him when he plays good too...but I don't have to pretend he is the best in the league.

Well I'm glad to see that you think like I do. I'm not a Dak homer, I'm a Dallas Cowboys homer. I homer of every player that wears the star.

I dont have to defend anyone, I also call it like I see it.... and Dak happens to get blamed for things that wasn't his fault. That has even been a topic on major sports shows.

Even Cowboys biggest haters like Steven A, Ryan Clark, Richard Sherman, Bart Scott, Shannon Sharpe, and a host of others said that the Miami game loss definitely wasn't on Dak.

1. Do you believe that you saw something different that those former All-Pros and Hall of Famers saw?

2. Do you believe you have more credibility than these former All-Pros and Hall of Famers when assessing anything concerning Dak's ability and production??
 

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Well I'm glad to see that you think like I do. I'm not a Dak homer, I'm a Dallas Cowboys homer. I homer of every player that wears the star.

I dont have to defend anyone, I also call it like I see it.... and Dak happens to get blamed for things that wasn't his fault. That has even been a topic on major sports shows.

Even Cowboys biggest haters like Steven A, Ryan Clark, Richard Sherman, Bart Scott, Shannon Sharpe, and a host of others said that the Miami game loss definitely wasn't on Dak.

1. Do you believe that you saw something different that those former All-Pros and Hall of Famers saw?

2. Do you believe you have more credibility than these former All-Pros and Hall of Famers when assessing anything concerning Dak's ability and production??
Ok, but its the MVP award. It's about what the player did to show he was a difference maker. He didn't make enough plays.
 

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Ok, but its the MVP award. It's about what the player did to show he was a difference maker. He didn't make enough plays.
The player can only do what the players around him help him do.

Yes if Dallas won the last two games, his name would still be mentioned. But we loss as a team, ESPECIALLY the Bills game.
 

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Dak isn't getting MVP. You need to have a winning record against winning teams. Dak will be one and done in the Playoffs. Look up choker in the dictionary, Daks pic will be there.
 
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