If the MVP comes down to Dak vs Lamar Jackson

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Chasing6

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You are right LJ sucks and Dak is way better ! You are the kind of guy who would take a Dak Mvp over a superbowl aren’t you ?
Why is it hard for people to understand that football is a team sport. This is not baseball. QB's are not pitchers. Holding QB's 100% responsible for wins and losses is so ridiculous.

Saying QB's are not good because they never won a SB is idiotic.
 

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Dak's no longer a candidate, unless some nutty things happen in the last 2 weeks.

ESPN BET has him at +1800 to win MVP, 6th-shortest odds in the NFL.

Lamar is the favorite at -180.

Purdy plummeted to 5th-shortest odds at +1400.
dak was never going to get the mvp award regardless of what happened the rest of the season
 

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You mean Romo can call Dak so Dak can laugh him off the phone since Dak is about to surpass Romo's career postseason wins, plus break most, if not all, of Romo's franchise records.
You realize Romo played for the Cowboys too? Or are you just a Dak fan? I'm confused.
 

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Not if they get blown out vs the Dolphins and Lamar turn the ball over multiple times.
True, but who knows. Right now I'm not voting Dak. Purdy might if he turn it around and win a bowl. But right now Lamar most likely.
 

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MVP awards are a total joke. A reason to create talk among fans. Which always revolves around QBs -- an insult to everyone else who really makes these organizations successful.

The real MVP is probably an equipment manager somewhere.
 

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So if Dallas D gets the stop on the last drive and we beat the Dolphins with Dak's game winning drive then Dak is back in as the favorite to win the MVP race.

See how stupid that sounds?

Lamar is all the talk about MVP now because they beat the Niners, although there defense beat the Niners not Lamar.
 

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Lamar has also put up better stats than Dak against teams with a winning record.

For instance, look how Lamar did in SF and compare that to what Dak did in SF. Let's see how Lamar does against Miami on Sunday and compare that to Dak against Miami last week.
Exactly. Dak is whole career has stacked up the stats when the defense gets TOs. And over the last 3 years they have more than anyone. When he doesn’t get that he shrinks. It’s the MVP, not the “go as the team goes” award. To get that award you elevate your team more than anyone else. Dak’s team has to elevate him.
 

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If Dak would have went 2-0 the last 2 weeks they'd already have his name on the trophy. He didn't.
Exactly. If our D made the stop on the final drive against Miami Dak would be the favorite. If our Special teams blocks the punt against Buffalo, Dak is the MVP.

So does everyone realize how dump this sounds???

Dak has to do better.
 

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Dak's no longer a candidate, unless some nutty things happen in the last 2 weeks.

ESPN BET has him at +1800 to win MVP, 6th-shortest odds in the NFL.

Lamar is the favorite at -180.

Purdy plummeted to 5th-shortest odds at +1400.
I agree those 5 interceptions that Lamar got made him the MVP.
 

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My vote would go to Josh Allen. He has accounted for 83% of all of their teams TD's. I could care less about the win/loss record that is a result of team football.

Without Josh Allen the bills would be 0-15.
 

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Lamar at this point. MVP does deal with qb play, but winning teams also boost the score. Him beating the 49ers probably cemented it unless they fall off real bad.
Pretty sure their defense beat the Niners. Did you watch the game?

Do you think we lose to the Niners if our D gets 5 interceptions and 4 sacks?
 

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Exactly. If our D made the stop on the final drive against Miami Dak would be the favorite. If our Special teams blocks the punt against Buffalo, Dak is the MVP.

So does everyone realize how dump this sounds???

Dak has to do better.
I'm being realistic and you're being emotional. I'm also right and you know it. Doesn't matter what happened Dak went 0-2 in those 2 games. I'm assuming Vegas also agrees with me as he is now +1400 to win. If a betting man bet with your emotions he'd lose a bunch on Dak MVP. I'm sure there were more then 2 plays in those games that changed the outcome of the game, but that would also ruin your narrative.

Ferguson wide open in the seam for a TD is just one of the few I remember.
 

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I couldn't care less about the MVP award. It's as meaningless to me as how many Pro Bowlers the Cowboys get.

Win something more than the occasional wild card game. Team success.

Nobody holds a parade for individual awards. There are reasons for that.
And to put it into further prospective, Jackson has almost identical stats next to Baker freaking Mayfield , rushing yards withstanding.

The media wants Lamar to get it and so shall it be
 

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Goal line, 1 minute to go, winning TD, who you want, Dak or Lamar? I want Lamar just on his legs alone.
 

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Pretty sure their defense beat the Niners. Did you watch the game?

Do you think we lose to the Niners if our D gets 5 interceptions and 4 sacks?
Yup, D made it look easy while Lamar did what he did the 49ers D. It goes both ways.
 

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I don’t see how Hill isn’t the favorite when 1) Dolphins have the same record as San Fran, 2) Hill needs 320 yards in 2 games to break Calvin Johnson’s single season record, 3) the Dolphins were terrible before Hill got there, 4) the Chiefs are terrible without Hill.
 

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I don’t see how Hill isn’t the favorite when 1) Dolphins have the same record as San Fran, 2) Hill needs 320 yards in 2 games to break Calvin Johnson’s single season record, 3) the Dolphins were terrible before Hill got there, 4) the Chiefs are terrible without Hill.
How dumb of me. I thought the Chiefs won the Super Bowl without him in 2023.. MY Bad
 

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Why is it hard for people to understand that football is a team sport. This is not baseball. QB's are not pitchers. Holding QB's 100% responsible for wins and losses is so ridiculous.

Saying QB's are not good because they never won a SB is idiotic.
What is your point ? No where did I say that … I said LJ is ahead of Dak for mvp. Which made one of the slobbers get defensive. Obviously it’s a team game like any major sport….
 
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