If the Running Back Issue Isn't a Problem

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It's good to know you know what the coaches really think.

And for those who suggest this team has been doing business like this and citing other positions and how they have rotated people out, I give you Dez. Skill positions are the expensive positions and linemen and such are where you save money.

Hence ehat the team did when they held their water and got a DE and a G on the cheap that both were considered top 20.

The argument before the draft by those who think Murray wasn't all that is Dallas will fill that void with a rookie. They didn't.

But they did keep the players who have amassed less than 1100 yards in their entire careers and a cast off considered a bust.

There was a reason this team was 12-4. MUrray and the running game was a huge part of that.

I am not claiming anything, just reiterating what the coaching staff have been quoted to have said. I would hope you would know the difference.

It's amusing you equate the WR position to the RB position. The RB position is much easier to fill than a WR, it's crazy you want to argue skill position when RB is the easiest position to fill on the field.

Like I said before, I know it is an unpopular opinion to some on the board, but the staff is happy with what they have at the RB position for the moment.
 

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Provide the link where the team acknowledges they are moving away from a proven strategy, if anything they are moving towards that strategy this year with the RBC. The team should have spread around the carries last year to keep Murray fresh during that final quarter of the season. The argument in the preseason for Murray last year was that he was injury prone and unproven and with one healthy-ish year he is now indispensable. I know this is very unpopular to some on the board, but the coaching staff is happy with what they have at RB for the moment. They are going to spread the ball around and the OL will open up huge lanes for them to run through.

It is good to know you can see into the future and can tell us Romo's career shelf life.

You know, they aren't going to open that wide open lane, every time.
You're absolutely right.

Ivory and Johnson leading the way.

I honestly think some believe that a "real good" back will get about 4.6 YPC and everyone gets about 2.3 YPC. And that there are only about 6 "real good" backs out there.

Non-sense.

There will be a back who emerges out of the "fab-four" who get 250 carries and will average at least 4.5 YPC. Maybe Randle. Maybe McFadden. Maybe Williams.

But someone will.

I will take that bet.
 

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Yah I was hardly blown away. As a matter of fact I think Randle looked a little pedestrian in that video. What I'm excited about is the amount of 8 man fronts he faced. That tells me that if he is facing those, teams must be very worried about our rushing attack no matter who is the running back.

When he is the lead back (if he is) and opposing teams have much more film on Randle, then those 8 man fronts might start to go away if they realize he is just 'pedestrian.'

Last season he was the same unknown to the rest of the league as he is to us. Chances are they prepared for the worst.
 

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You know, they aren't going to open that wide open lane, every time.


I will take that bet.

LOL!

I should get some yards. :)

We will see.

Regardless, I don't see the running game being a "car wreck" like many foresee.
 

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When he is the lead back (if he is) and opposing teams have much more film on Randle, then those 8 man fronts might start to go away if they realize he is just 'pedestrian.'

Last season he was the same unknown to the rest of the league as he is to us. Chances are they prepared for the worst.

The entire chemistry, identity and scheme is going to slowly change, if the running game comes up short. If we cant get that going in the 1st or second qrt, game after game...were not going to continue to run the ball....

I am expecting to see Romo drop back and pass more this year. Hey, that might work out? And who knows the guys at RB on roster right now, may turn in careers years.

That all just very well may happen. But, why wouldn't we upgrade what we have now, if there is someone out there worth the time and effort?
 

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No.............no team in NFL history ever let the rushing champion walk out the door. Murray will be the first rushing champion to defend his title on another team.

That is interesting but is not predictive we will have an ineffectual rushing attack. You hate to lose a good to better player but you move on.
 

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I'm not sure why several of you think we're all of a sudden going to abandon the run. Comments saying we are abandoning what was working or what is tried and true...they're off base and unsubstantiated.
What has anyone in the organization said that would make you draw that conclusion?

It's not a question of consciously abandoning it. Its a matter of if it is not as effective as last year, and we are consistently getting ourselves in 3rd and 7's, they may need to switch gears out of necessity.
 

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It's good to know you know what the coaches really think.

And for those who suggest this team has been doing business like this and citing other positions and how they have rotated people out, I give you Dez. Skill positions are the expensive positions and linemen and such are where you save money.

Hence ehat the team did when they held their water and got a DE and a G on the cheap that both were considered top 20.

The argument before the draft by those who think Murray wasn't all that is Dallas will fill that void with a rookie. They didn't.

But they did keep the players who have amassed less than 1100 yards in their entire careers and a cast off considered a bust.

There was a reason this team was 12-4. MUrray and the running game was a huge part of that.

We know their actions so far.
 

wileedog

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Regardless, I don't see the running game being a "car wreck" like many foresee.

For the record I don't see it as a 'car-wreck" either.

I just think this team was best served this year if it was "Formula 1". The running game is what makes this team tick until the new defensive additions prove worth the considerable gambles we took on them. It should not have been gambled with as well.
 

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Has he? His first year, he looked awful. His second? He had a little over 50 carries and a couple long runs. I'd say he's doing exactly what you'd expect from a late round back.

4 out 5 day 3 picks fail. Your issue seems to be unreasonable expectations. It reminds me of a Garretism: "the other guys have to deal with the same thing."

Most 5th round picks never look like they have a chance to start. He does after improving significantly over his first two years. I don't expect most day 3 picks to do that.

There is another Parcellism that comes to mind: "instant evaluator." As opposed to you, I am not sure what to expect from him moving forward. Your surety of outcome is a possibility but only within a range of possibility. He has shown he can be a capable backup. He did it last year. Athletes in their early twenties have a tendency to improve though. He also puts in the work.
 

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Then why are there so many comments in the press about the Jones boys looking to trade? And why are there so many threads about this issue?

If this RBBC is the answer, then why has the organization stated they are looking?

Why has this site blown up with RB threads and speculation?

I guess it could be the never ending quest to improve.

Or...

It could be the team made a mistake and misjudged their options.

Dallas just had an 1800yd rusher. He's on another team. You can't blame folks for having a bit of uneasiness about the RB position.
 

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Bro, both Stephen and Jerry have said so. Jerry went as far as to say that he would be interested in trading a first round pick next year. That is from Jerry Jones himself pal.

That's not what Jerry said.

He said he wouldn't rule it out. In other words, for the right player, he'd give it some consideration. That's not the same thing as saying he's "interested" in trading the pick.
 
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