If the Running Back Issue Isn't a Problem

[Bleu Star]

I was one of the biggest proponents of Gurley and Gordon on this forum. They were the only two blue chippers in this draft. You have nothing on me stating otherwise. You cannot pull up anything on me with a different opinion.
My post was to simply point out all the YouTube football scouts saying we needed a RB other than the top two and expecting elite results just because the offensive line is so dominate.

Don't read into something that is not there.

I thought my response was pretty clear and it wasn't directed at you.. other than pointing out the fact that your cute little "cum bah jah" post held no water given what I pointed out in my response.

 

[PhillyCowboysFan]

I wasn't as blown away by the Randle video as some...

Yah I was hardly blown away. As a matter of fact I think Randle looked a little pedestrian in that video. What I'm excited about is the amount of 8 man fronts he faced. That tells me that if he is facing those, teams must be very worried about our rushing attack no matter who is the running back.

I contribute that to our offensive line and the combination of being a heavy run oriented team. It gives me hope that this RBBC thing will work and be just as successful. Again look at the Jets.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I see a lot of people get defensive about these questions. I see few if any that are giving any answers.

People aren't getting defensive about the questions, they are getting damn tired of them. Every day in multiple threads for months on end there are a handful that are absolutely beating the RB topic to death. The off season sucks enough as it is. Going thru this day after day non stop for even a few days will wear someone down. The answers about all this are out there. They just aren't good enough to satisify those asking the questions. So they keep asking. The media is driving most of this by constantly stoking the fires because it's the Cowboys and any news about them gets people to watch or read. Just my .02 worth.

 

[TwoDeep3]

I'm not going to fall for deflection....carry on. smh

I see you didn't deny it either., Deflection, good word. Oh, look over there, a squirrel.

 

[Knotamus]

[sigh] We're still taking about runningback..smh.

Take a step back off the ledge... I promise the Coaches know what they're doing, but I'll leave you with something to sink your teeth into..(or something else to spin and talk ab the RB's more)

Demarco Murray (you know the guy that left for more money, although "that's not a deciding factor"..whatever DM!)
392- 1845yds- 4.7avg- 13td

Bengals RBBC approach:
390- 1804yds- 4.6avg- 14td

Jeremy Hill 222- 1124yds- 5.1avg- 9td
Giovoni Bernard 168- 680yrds- 4.0avg- 5td

Btw-- who the hell did New England have when they won the Superbowl? Defense win Championships! I'm so glad the FO allocated the extra dough toward solidifying our defense. Thanks Jerry for not Listening to the Media or masses

 

[TwoDeep3]

People aren't getting defensive about the questions, they are getting damn tired of them. Every day in multiple threads for months on end there are a handful that are absolutely beating the RB topic to death. The off season sucks enough as it is. Going thru this day after day non stop for even a few days will wear someone down. The answers about all this are out there. They just aren't good enough to satisify those asking the questions. So they keep asking. The media is driving most of this by constantly stoking the fires because it's the Cowboys and any news about them gets people to watch or read. Just my .02 worth.

When I posted direct quotes by Jerry and Stephen, I'd suggest that is not media driven.

Now name the soft spot in this team. Well, it sure looks like RB.

And speaking of getting tired of threads and subjects, when will I hear from you about the constant Romo is unloved threads and fill in the mediot is a moron and is a fan of fill in the team?

This board is so dismissive of anything but agreeing that this is the year. Has been for a long time.

 

[Bleu Star]

When I posted direct quotes by Jerry and Stephen, I'd suggest that is not media driven.

Now name the soft spot in this team. Well, it sure looks like RB.

And speaking of getting tired of threads and subjects, when will I hear from you about the constant Romo is unloved threads and fill in the mediot is a moron and is a fan of fill in the team?

This board is so dismissive of anything but agreeing that this is the year. Has been for a long time.

If your opinion doesn't fit in with the gravy train mentality.. well... you're just going to be treated like the town crier. It's all good man. You make some very good points and I know I am not the only one that appreciates them along with every other Tom Crank & Harry opinion on here.

 

[TwoDeep3]

[sigh] We're still taking about runningback..smh.

Take a step back off the ledge... I promise the Coaches know what they're doing, but I'll leave you with something to sink your teeth into..(or something else to spin and talk ab the RB's more)

Demarco Murray (you know the guy that left for more money, although "that's not a deciding factor"..whatever DM!)
392- 1845yds- 4.7avg- 13td

Bengals RBBC approach:
390- 1804yds- 4.6avg- 14td

Jeremy Hill 222- 1124yds- 5.1avg- 9td
Giovoni Bernard 168- 680yrds- 4.0avg- 5td

Btw-- who the hell did New England have when they won the Superbowl? Defense win Championships! I'm so glad the FO allocated the extra dough toward solidifying our defense. Thanks Jerry for not Listening to the Media or masses

All those stats are great. But which of those options did Dallas use last year to protect the defense, eat the clock, and hold the ball.

Dallas could have very well paid Murray more money and elected not to. I submit they were reading the tea leaves incorrectly and have gotten caught short. Change the ability to play keep away with the ball and that changes the team.

But lets ignore what got the team to 12-4 for the first time in what...forever, and rejoice they have a group of spares at running back and perhaps gutted what caused the team to win.

 

[Idgit]

Not certain but I remember most weren't happy about the OL and were labeled homers for hoping players might develop.

We did neglect the OL some but were greatly handicapped by the cap and a lack of talent at multiple positions.

But you're still right about it being generally marginal overall and was not addressed well in the draft. A fair amount of that was consistently missing on too many OL picks and not simply ignoring it. To be fair some was, again, not addressing it with more resources.

I think it resulted in some injuries to Romo but I don't think it overall made much difference in our records. Our defense has been the primary cause of our failures in the past. Again, to be fair, we could have won 1-2 more games a season with more defense but that is speculative.

It's actually all hogwash. We'd used a top 10 pick on an OL in 2011. Signed obvious stopgap players to fill positions of need while we cleared the cap, and then address OC and OG/RT in the first rounds the two years after it. The pattern is as clear as it can be. We fill open needs with value free agents, draft the hardest positions to fill where we can. Throw resources at positions of need in the middle and later rounds, devote multiple extra spots to those positions as we churn through inexpensive young options hoping to find players, and then focus our resources on the best possible players we can get in position to draft. We sign the exceptional ones, and replace the others where we can, getting our cap in shape in the process. The only issue was that the 2010 team had deterioration along the entire expensive OL, the CB position was depleted with the separate of Newman and the injury to Jenkins, and the DL almost immediately went into disprepair with Ratliff going bonkers and Ware turning into a pumpkin years before we'd expected him to do. The 'let's wait to see the players play a single snap yet' and 'let's see if we can get something from nothing on some of these OL options' (which we did, with Ron Learly, btw) arguments were all int he context of the situation. It turned out we were devoting huge resources directly at the problem areas while clearing out the cap and the people who were stomping their feet and hollering that we weren't are trying to pretend otherwise in retrospect.

 

[5Stars]

If your opinion doesn't fit in with the gravy train mentality.. well... you're just going to be treated like the town crier. It's all good man. You make some very good points and I know I am not the only one that appreciates them along with every other Tom Crank & Harry opinion on here.

lmao....

 

[Bleu Star]

lmao....

 

[Knotamus]

All those stats are great. But which of those options did Dallas use last year to protect the defense, eat the clock, and hold the ball.

Dallas could have very well paid Murray more money and elected not to. I submit they were reading the tea leaves incorrectly and have gotten caught short. Change the ability to play keep away with the ball and that changes the team.

But lets ignore what got the team to 12-4 for the first time in what...forever, and rejoice they have a group of spares at running back and perhaps gutted what caused the team to win.

LOL- well, your can shrug off the stats if you want and I can go debate about this with a fence post, but the production is exactly what we have to replace.

And give me a break with "the ability to play keep away with the ball"... How many times did Murray fumble the ball and put Dallas in a hole to dig out of or better, end promising drives that would have buried the opponents?

And the only person ignoring anything are the people that think Murray is the one that changed our Offense. Last I checked we have a top five TE, WR, and QB. NO, it was the FO dedication to the OL the last four years and they kept their promise to commit to the run game... that's what lead this team to a 12-4 record for the first time in what- forever.

 

[5Stars]

LOL- well, your can shrug off the stats if you want and I can go debate about this with a fence post, but the production is exactly what we have to replace.

And give me a break with "the ability to play keep away with the ball"... How many times did Murray fumble the ball and put Dallas in a hole to dig out of or better, end promising drives that would have buried the opponents?

And the only person ignoring anything are the people that think Murray is the one that changed our Offense. Last I checked we have a top five TE, WR, and QB. NO, it was the FO dedication to the OL the last four years and they kept their promise to commit to the run game... that's what lead this team to a 12-4 record for the first time in what- forever.

That was a lot of words...but if you have been paying attention, Murray is the one the made the Cowboys go 12-4. The rest of the team were just riding his coattails...lol

 

[Corso]

That was a lot of words...but if you have been paying attention, Murray is the one the made the Cowboys go 12-4. The rest of the team were just riding his coattails...lol

And he's definitely, definitely not crying about it. I can't find that binkie he was offering though. Must be weighed down with his tears.

 

[Hardline]

I thought my response was pretty clear and it wasn't directed at you.. other than pointing out the fact that your cute little "cum bah jah" post held no water given what I pointed out in my response.

You took a huge swing and missed. If there was any doubt. This post removed it.
Your response had no bearing on my post.

 

[TwoDeep3]

And give me a break with "the ability to play keep away with the ball"... How many times did Murray fumble the ball and put Dallas in a hole to dig out of or better, end promising drives that would have buried the opponents?

Three times.



http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14005/demarco-murray

 

[JoeBoBBY]

LOL- well, your can shrug off the stats if you want and I can go debate about this with a fence post, but the production is exactly what we have to replace.

And give me a break with "the ability to play keep away with the ball"... How many times did Murray fumble the ball and put Dallas in a hole to dig out of or better, end promising drives that would have buried the opponents?

And the only person ignoring anything are the people that think Murray is the one that changed our Offense. Last I checked we have a top five TE, WR, and QB. NO, it was the FO dedication to the OL the last four years and they kept their promise to commit to the run game... that's what lead this team to a 12-4 record for the first time in what- forever.

Do you think the TOP will be as much as it was last year?

 

[Bleu Star]

That was a lot of words...but if you have been paying attention, Murray is the one the made the Cowboys go 12-4. The rest of the team were just riding his coattails...lol

Y'all really need to stop with the silliness. I think the bottom line here, which many are unwilling to accept, is that Murray deserves just as much credit as our stellar oline in the success we had with achieving balance via our ball control offense last year. Yet no one is simply willing to give credit where it's due. That's the bottom line.

 

[TwoDeep3]

That was a lot of words...but if you have been paying attention, Murray is the one the made the Cowboys go 12-4. The rest of the team were just riding his coattails...lol

How many freakin times have YOU whined about the defense losing games?

Did the running game not protect the defense? Seems there were a great number of people here that thought so until Murray wanted a raise. That includes you.

 

[Corso]

Y'all really need to stop with the silliness. I think the bottom line here, which many are unwilling to accept, is that Murray deserves just as much credit as our stellar oline in the success we had with achieving balance via our ball control offense last year. Yet no one is simply willing to give credit where it's due. That's the bottom line.

I don't know... I've read many posters giving credit to Murray, but you guys are right that he is being treated like an also-ran by others and I can understand the frustration.
I think it's getting a little too silly the way it's being hounded upon, but some people can't think of anything else except Dallas Cowboys Football and I commend their love for our team.