If we do sell the farm for Wentz...

JoeyBoy718

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I agree that you do whatever it takes to get a franchise QB. I won't get into whether or not I think Wentz is supremely better than Goff or Lynch to justify mortgaging the short-term to get him. For the sake of this thread, let's just assume we did trade away a lot to move up to get Wentz. The asking price will probably be similar to what the Skins gave up to get RG3. Let's just say we trade away multiple early picks from multiple future years.

Then the question is, now that we've found our future franchise QB, how do we build a quality team around him? We've seen with Romo that a QB can't do it all by himself. Our best chance at a Super Bowl is still with Romo, but if we don't have any draft picks or money to sign free agents for the remainder of Romo's career, how do we give him a chance to compete for a Super Bowl before he retires? And how do we build a quality team around Wentz for time when he takes over?

So, we won't have any high draft picks for the remainder of Romo's career and possibly the beginning of Wentz's career. We also won't have any money to sign any quality free agents since 1) we've been wary ever since signing guys to bad deals (see Carr), and 2) we need to save all the money we can to resign a bunch of young guys who play expensive positions like OL Frederick, OL Martin, OL Collins, DE Lawrence, DB Jones, and QB Wentz (he'll be needing a new contract around the time he takes over).

And that's assuming Wentz is worth it. I'm not even considering if he's a bust. You need an elite QB in today's NFL, but you also need to build a quality team around them. How do we build a quality team around Romo and Wentz with no draft picks for the next few years and no money for free agents?
 

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I agree that you do whatever it takes to get a franchise QB. I won't get into whether or not I think Wentz is supremely better than Goff or Lynch to justify mortgaging the short-term to get him. For the sake of this thread, let's just assume we did trade away a lot to move up to get Wentz. The asking price will probably be similar to what the Skins gave up to get RG3. Let's just say we trade away multiple early picks from multiple future years.

Then the question is, now that we've found our future franchise QB, how do we build a quality team around him? We've seen with Romo that a QB can't do it all by himself. Our best chance at a Super Bowl is still with Romo, but if we don't have any draft picks or money to sign free agents for the remainder of Romo's career, how do we give him a chance to compete for a Super Bowl before he retires? And how do we build a quality team around Wentz for time when he takes over?

So, we won't have any high draft picks for the remainder of Romo's career and possibly the beginning of Wentz's career. We also won't have any money to sign any quality free agents since 1) we've been wary ever since signing guys to bad deals (see Carr), and 2) we need to save all the money we can to resign a bunch of young guys who play expensive positions like OL Frederick, OL Martin, OL Collins, DE Lawrence, DB Jones, and QB Wentz (he'll be needing a new contract around the time he takes over).

And that's assuming Wentz is worth it. I'm not even considering if he's a bust. You need an elite QB in today's NFL, but you also need to build a quality team around them. How do we build a quality team around Romo and Wentz with no draft picks for the next few years and no money for free agents?

I say we remain at pick 4 and let the cards fall in place. If we want a QB then one of either Wentz or Goff will be there for us. I still think Jerry wants Ramsey and is hoping someone else trades up to #1 to take the QB. San Diego would be all over Tunsel if he falls to them.
 

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We will NOT move up for Wentz... Period
Just doesn't seem at all like something we'd be open to at this point
 

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I really dont think this team will move up for a QB.

Me neither.. Let the chips fall where they may.. Does anybody really expect Cleveland to pick the right QB? Wentz or Goff will be available at 4..
 

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The bigger question is what will it cost in the future to get the top QB? The cost is high from 4 but would be much higher from the middle of the round. At some point very soon we have to get a QB and the cost, while high, may never be cheaper
 

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They sell out for Wentz and that's the final nail in the coffin for romo getting a ring in dallas. Most likely wasn't happening anyway but this would make it for sure.
 

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The bigger question is what will it cost in the future to get the top QB? The cost is high from 4 but would be much higher from the middle of the round. At some point very soon we have to get a QB and the cost, while high, may never be cheaper

I don't disagree that this might be our best and last chance to address the QB position before Romo retires. But we can easily stay put or even trade back and get one of the top 3 QBs. My point was more about the people who think there's only one QB worth drafting and that we should do whatever it takes to get him. My two questions are 1) is he really that much better than the other two QBs, and 2) how are we gonna build a quality team around him and Romo if we don't have any draft picks or money for free agents?
 

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I don't disagree that this might be our best and last chance to address the QB position before Romo retires. But we can easily stay put or even trade back and get one of the top 3 QBs. My point was more about the people who think there's only one QB worth drafting and that we should do whatever it takes to get him. My two questions are 1) is he really that much better than the other two QBs, and 2) how are we gonna build a quality team around him and Romo if we don't have any draft picks or money for free agents?

Has no effect on money if you take a QB
It does cost a ton of picks and that's the real issue. But it's gonna cost even more later. As for the other qb's, that's what you have scouts for. But I would say there is a big drop off from the top 2 and it falls off a cliff after the top 3.
 

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I agree that you do whatever it takes to get a franchise QB. I won't get into whether or not I think Wentz is supremely better than Goff or Lynch to justify mortgaging the short-term to get him. For the sake of this thread, let's just assume we did trade away a lot to move up to get Wentz. The asking price will probably be similar to what the Skins gave up to get RG3. Let's just say we trade away multiple early picks from multiple future years.

Then the question is, now that we've found our future franchise QB, how do we build a quality team around him? We've seen with Romo that a QB can't do it all by himself. Our best chance at a Super Bowl is still with Romo, but if we don't have any draft picks or money to sign free agents for the remainder of Romo's career, how do we give him a chance to compete for a Super Bowl before he retires? And how do we build a quality team around Wentz for time when he takes over?

So, we won't have any high draft picks for the remainder of Romo's career and possibly the beginning of Wentz's career. We also won't have any money to sign any quality free agents since 1) we've been wary ever since signing guys to bad deals (see Carr), and 2) we need to save all the money we can to resign a bunch of young guys who play expensive positions like OL Frederick, OL Martin, OL Collins, DE Lawrence, DB Jones, and QB Wentz (he'll be needing a new contract around the time he takes over).

And that's assuming Wentz is worth it. I'm not even considering if he's a bust. You need an elite QB in today's NFL, but you also need to build a quality team around them. How do we build a quality team around Romo and Wentz with no draft picks for the next few years and no money for free agents?

Romo is not going to be playing very much longer. You can quit worrying about him and any effort to get him a Super Bowl.
 

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Kinda interesting though it's hard to say any player is like Glennon or Bortles since we really don't know what they are at this point but an interesting take on the evaluation process
 

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I honestly do not believe we are trading up in this draft probably a better chance of trading down if anything.
 

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If I heard that Dallas traded up for the 1st pick...

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I don't see what Wentz has accomplished for us to sell the farm for him. If Romo goes out, we'll likely be right in another position to draft a qb high, so there's no reason to go crazy and give up all of these picks to get a qb this time around.
 
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