If we make it to the playoff in 2014, Are we super bowl legitimate contenders?

[Ultra Warrior]

some believe being a "contender" means you make the playoffs giving you more of a chance to advance to the Super Bowl than a team that isn't in the playoffs.

Anyone who doesn't believe that, is an idiot.

 

[TrailBlazer]

As long as we have romo we are contenders, period.

Haters aren't Gonna like this

That's your opinion. Any facts to back that up?
History doesn't agree.
Romo needs a lot of help around him to be successful from a win loss standpoint.
Dallas hasn't been a contender with tony except the year they went 13-3. See one playoff win in all these years.

Tony Romo alone isn't enough to make Dallas contenders. He needs a defense similar to seattle's and an oline like Brady's.

There will be a new QB under center before Dallas turns this thing around.

 

[xwalker]

That's your opinion. Any facts to back that up?
History doesn't agree.
Romo needs a lot of help around him to be successful from a win loss standpoint.
Dallas hasn't been a contender with tony except the year they went 13-3. See one playoff win in all these years.

Tony Romo alone isn't enough to make Dallas contenders. He needs a defense similar to seattle's and an oline like Brady's.

There will be a new QB under center before Dallas turns this thing around.

It depends on how you define contender. Different people have different definitions.

The Cowboys have been in contention to make the playoffs most years. It comes down to the final game of the season most years.

That's probably not your definition of contenders, but it could be other peoples definition.

Before you poopoo the concept of being a contender, you need to define your definition of contender.

 

[rwalters31]

If we make it to the playoff in 2014, Are we super bowl legitimate contenders?

I know I lost of you guys have lost hope for this season. With the schedule coming out the rest of us (myself included) realized how REAL things just got. However IF Dallas wins the division and make it to the playoff could we be considered a real contender for the Super Bowl. I don't mean if we back our way in via the wildcard. But if the Cowboys win the NFC East, with their schedule would you consider them a contender to go to the Super Bowl and not just a case of dumb luck?

I took out my crystal ball and asked it your question and the answer may surprise you. The Cowboys where a bad 8-8 team last year with the worse defense in the league. This year the Cowboys will be better than last year’s defense and the offense will have less yards and points but be more efficient in 3th downs and TD’s in the red zone. This year the Cowboys will be an 8-8 team but a good 8-8 team. This means that if the rest of the Division does no better than us we win the division and go to the playoffs. Here is the crystal balls prediction, the Cowboys will win playoff games and make it to the Conference game where it will lose. Next year’s draft will have us drafting in the 20s and we pick the 5th best QB in the draft. In two years the cowboys win the conference game and go to their first SB in 20 some years.



PS



The crystal ball has been wrong before

 

[tyke1doe]

Anyone who doesn't believe that, is an idiot.

Yes, let's call people who have a different perspective, idiots. Way to raise the level of discussion from civil to a bratfest "My dad is stronger than your dad" contest. Bravo. Well done.

 

[Stryker44]

every team in the cap era is flawed.

Unless you're a team like Seattle that has the extraordinary fortune of having a bunch of mid to late round picks still on their rookie deals turning out to be studs.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Yes

 

[Ultra Warrior]

Yes, let's call people who have a different perspective, idiots. Way to raise the level of discussion from civil to a bratfest "My dad is stronger than your dad" contest. Bravo. Well done.

It's not a matter of "perspective". it's a matter of FACT.
If you don't have the ability to figure it out, we have nothing further to discuss.

 

[TrailBlazer]

C

It depends on how you define contender. Different people have different definitions.

The Cowboys have been in contention to make the playoffs most years. It comes down to the final game of the season most years.

That's probably not your definition of contenders, but it could be other peoples definition.

Before you poopoo the concept of being a contender, you need to define your definition of contender.

The OP said contender to win a Super Bowl not just make the playoffs. If that were the definition, then you could make a case for every team being a contender. I'm talking about the elite teams. Basically the top 5-7 teams. I don't use the term "contender" loosely.

In 2013 the contenders were Seattle San Fran New Orleans New England Denver Carolina. After that, there was a big drop off. The next best team being probably Indy. Or KC.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I really don't see how anybody can look at Seattle and then look at Dallas and think the two teams are comparable.

So no, we are not a SB contender until we are on par with teams that actually win SBs. When Dallas is comparable in talent level to Seattle, then we can talk about being a real contender.

 

[xwalker]

C

The OP said contender to win a Super Bowl not just make the playoffs. If that were the definition, then you could make a case for every team being a contender. I'm talking about the elite teams. Basically the top 5-7 teams. I don't use the term "contender" loosely.

In 2013 the contenders were Seattle San Fran New Orleans New England Denver Carolina. After that, there was a big drop off. The next best team being probably Indy. Or KC.

I agree with your definition, but contender is often used to indicate likely to make the playoffs.

I try to use Super Bowl contender or Playoff contender when referring to the subject.

There should be some term to differentiate teams that are likely to make the playoffs from those that aren't. The Cowboys have definitely been Playoff Contenders most years but rarely (2007) have they been Super Bowl contenders in the past 18 or so years.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I really don't see how anybody can look at Seattle and then look at Dallas and think the two teams are comparable.

That is a very reasonable statement. But, did you believe that Seattle was a Super Bowl contender this time last year? We knew they were a good team don't get me wrong. Everybody was picking them to be the wild card in that division and perhaps winning a wild card game but not the Super Bowl. That said we still have work to do and no we don't compare to Seattle today.

 

[tyke1doe]

It's not a matter of "perspective". it's a matter of FACT.
If you don't have the ability to figure it out, we have nothing further to discuss.

You need some loving. You're wound too tightly.

And what is fact in this case?

If you really analyze your position, you'll find that your "FACT" isn't the only "FACT" with respect to this issue. Therefore, it becomes a matter of perspective.

But I'm willing to play the "It's FACT" game.

But first, please define a "Super Bowl contender"?
What does that term mean to you? How do you define it?

 

[Beast_from_East]

That is a very reasonable statement. But, did you believe that Seattle was a Super Bowl contender this time last year? We knew they were a good team don't get me wrong. Everybody was picking them to be the wild card in that division and perhaps winning a wild card game but not the Super Bowl. That said we still have work to do and no we don't compare to Seattle today.

I thought they would be good, but not SB winning good.

And I am not saying we cant get to that point either, however it is going to take some time and probably a couple of drafts worth of talent to close the gap. Luckily for us, it appears Garrett is a lot better at scouting and drafting than he is at coaching. The last 3 drafts under Garrett have been pretty good, regardless of his botched game management.

 

[tyke1doe]

I agree with your definition, but contender is often used to indicate likely to make the playoffs.

I try to use Super Bowl contender or Playoff contender when referring to the subject.

There should be some term to differentiate teams that are likely to make the playoffs from those that aren't. The Cowboys have definitely been Playoff Contenders most years but rarely (2007) have they been Super Bowl contenders in the past 18 or so years.

I like your distinction of a playoff contender and a Super Bowl contender.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

I really don't see how anybody can look at Seattle and then look at Dallas and think the two teams are comparable.

So no, we are not a SB contender until we are on par with teams that actually win SBs. When Dallas is comparable in talent level to Seattle, then we can talk about being a real contender.

This.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

You need some loving. You're wound too tightly.

And what is fact in this case?

If you really analyze your position, you'll find that your "FACT" isn't the only "FACT" with respect to this issue. Therefore, it becomes a matter of perspective.

But I'm willing to play the "It's FACT" game.

But first, please define a "Super Bowl contender"?
What does that term mean to you? How do you define it?

The statement was an irrefutable fact.

Reading is fundamental.

 

[Ratmatt]

If we make it to the playoff in 2014, Are we super bowl legitimate contenders?

I know I lost of you guys have lost hope for this season. With the schedule coming out the rest of us (myself included) realized how REAL things just got. However IF Dallas wins the division and make it to the playoff could we be considered a real contender for the Super Bowl. I don't mean if we back our way in via the wildcard. But if the Cowboys win the NFC East, with their schedule would you consider them a contender to go to the Super Bowl and not just a case of dumb luck?

No!

 

[tyke1doe]

The statement was an irrefutable fact.

Reading is fundamental.

You do know that the world is made up of facts, and you can have more than one fact?

Logic is fundamental too.

 

[CF74]

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