If Your Jerry Do you go After Vince Young?

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austintodallas said:
Ok, I've kept quiet on this subject so far but I feel compelled to state my position. I'm a UT alum. I love the Horns and I love Vince and I'll never forget how he single-handedly willed us to a national championship. He'll always be one of my favorite college players, but...

I hope the Cowboys do not draft him. I do not think he is a good fit for this team at this time. I am skeptical of his ability to read defenses at the pro level. Vince is a freelancer and while he was a man among boys at the college level, this will not be so in the NFL. He may develop into a great pro quarterback but I do believe it will take some time and time is a luxury that the Cowboys do not have.

The Cowboys window is open now. I truly believe we are a player or two away from winning a Superbowl and I think Bledsoe will be the quarterback when it happens. The Cowboys need an OLB, a FS, and an offensive lineman or two. This year's and possibly next year's high draft picks must be used on players that can contribute immediately. Vince Young is not such a player.

If we draft a Longhorn I hope it's Huff.

Even Aaron Brooks and Q Carter have quarterbacked teams to the playoffs in the last 5 years. Bledsoe hasn't done it in 7 years and he's never played for a truly bad team. Plenty of qb's learn to read defenses in the NFL that were iffy in college like Brad Johnson and Rich Gannon. Dan Marino only had a 14 Wonderlic score and McNabb had just a 16. Rodney Peete had a 38 and Q Carter had a 30 and Aikman had a 29, yet, both Carter and Aikman both had better overall careers than Peete. Football is not chess, it's not rocket science or brain surgery, you only need average intelligence, but you need a high football IQ. There is a difference.
 

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BHendri5 said:
NO! NO! NO! NO! and NO! again. Let someone else take that gamble that he will become an NFL QB. I do not want that guy here unless he will be playing WR.

I agree with the one poster, VY does not know how to read defenses, in the offense they ran for him here at UT, he did not have to read defenses.

NO way. The next special QB coming out will be in the next draft, and that will be Brady Quinn.

Young would be a special WR, hopefully he realizes quick that he is not a NFL QB.

We wont be in position to draft Quinn next year. More likely that Houston or Detroit will be in the best position. Plus, there's no guarantee that Quinn will be as good in 2006 and 2007 will be a weak qb draft. We need to take Young at 18 if he's there or take Jacobs in the second round. VY can learn to read defenses in the NFL just like Steve McNair did. McNair played at a much smaller school as did Phil Simms, Dave Krieg and a number of other good NFL qb's
 

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Doomsday101 said:
I don't think Young is even on Dallas radar screen. I think Young is a great athlete but I think he has more question marks in his ability to play QB at the pro level. Young played the vast majority out the shot gun and being under center making your reads is a bit more difficult. At Texas he was lined up to take advantage of his athletic ability but in the Pro's teams tend to have their QB trying to get other players involved not the QB being a one man show.

He'll be much more successful than Cutler will, who everyone seems so enamored with, despite the fact that he didn't have a stellar collegiate career.
 

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BHendri5 said:
Because I have watched him since he got his first opportunity to play for UT. I've seen UT go from their normal offense that they would run with a QB, to putting in that style of offense so that he can be the playmaker that he was.

My home town is Austin, and I have watched this guy, everytime I see him all I see is a great college player, but I see and NFL WR too.

Doc, I'm telling you he cannot do it.
Oh, if anyone think he will be drafted by the Titans, you are wrong, the Titans will draft Lienart. Norm Chow has already said that Matt Lienart can wow you in the classroom with his knowledge of the game and He and Chow has a relationship, also Jeff Fisher is a USC guy as well, so the Titans is out for Young. Vince may not even go in the top 10, he will be lucky to go in the top 15.

Where you get drafted at doesn't determine the kind of career you're going to have, Big Ben was drafted below Manning and Rivers. Montana was a third rounder, Marino was a first rounder, who won more superbowls?
 

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Obviously i would go after Young if i were Jerry but i agree that only if he somehow drops lower than 10 because were not exactly a SuperBowl lock yet and giving up a lot to trade up wouldn't be very smart. We still have quite a bit of needs
 

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RCowboyFan said:
I agree too, but if Vince Young comes down to 13-14 pick, then Jerry should be tempted. He would be good one to pick up at that point, and sit him for 1-2 years.

As much of Henson homer I am, I really think Young can be something special, if his machanics can be tweaked a bit to make him more efficient in throwing long ball bit more accurately and also obviously taking the ball under center.

I am with you RCowboyFan, if VY falls into the teens we should go for it. Even if he's a 3 year project, I too think he is going to be special and well worth the wait. Actually he may end up not being a guy that needs the 3 years and so what if it does take that long, Bledsoe would be good for him to sit behind wile learning.
 

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kartr said:
He'll be much more successful than Cutler will, who everyone seems so enamored with, despite the fact that he didn't have a stellar collegiate career.

I hope he does, I like Vince Young but I have a lot of doubts about his ability to play QB at this level. College football and the Pro's are 2 different games and a lot of the free lancing that Young did at UT is not going to cut it at this level. As for Cutler scouts are looking at this ability as a QB not going by college stats alone, they understand Vandy is not UT and do not have the overall talent of a UT nor is it easy for Vandy to recurit the same talent that we see the top college programs get
 

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No way Young falls low enough to make a trade feasible for the Cowboys. All of the players they could trade have been released.

:muttley:
 

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If he slides then we would rue the day we passed. Anyway, I think it is a moot point; he will go in the top 3.
 
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