I'm done with over-analyzation

[NorthwestDallas40]

The draft has been over-analyzed ad-nausium.
The players have been raised by 40 times and reduced by 40 times.
College kids have been labeled safe because we don't know everything; others have been labeled risky because they partied. Fans, draft pundits, and media darlings have moved from ratings to trying to guess where players will go and back to rankings again. So much changes from every angle based on draft season rumors. I love the draft, but I'm almost sick of it.

Back to basics. Based on rankings since last year, and based on being the best player at a critical position, his age, etc.......

Draft Joey Bosa, DE

I dont necessarily disagree. But the last two years, we have spent 2nd round picks on DEs. Perhaps there are some within the organizaton, Jerry included, that dont want to give up on D Law and Gregory being our starting DEs. That may be naive given their suspensions, but it may be how some are thinking within in the organization.

 

[LocimusPrime]

That's a straw man. Paid analysts are saying a kicker has a 2nd to 3rd round grade.

If you're the Colts and you have a QB graded 88 and a LT graded 87 - which one are you taking?

Good point bro.

 

[skinsscalper]

You are basically correct. It's hilarious how many will lol when it's suggested that a team draft 'so-and-so' because of a rating or ranking. But it never fails... A LOT of guys that are highly ranked, bust. And a lot of guys barely ranked, succeed at ridiculously high levels. It's just fun... especially for the I-told-you-so's... Like me.

Of the 23 All Pros (excluding kickers) from this season, 14 came from the 1st round (another 6 came from the 2nd and 3rd rounds combined,with three coming from each). 9 of those 23 came in the top ten. Your talent is at the top of the round, percentage wise.

I get where you're coming from, in general, but the percentages say "Don't **** this up!" when you're picking in the top 10.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Yes, but just saying a guy is "the best player available" does not always make it so. And if you miss in that evaluation, then you not only didn't get the BPA, you also got one that likely didn't fill a position of need. See how easy it is to reverse the strategy that everyone says is so infallible?

Nope.

If you want to get it right, make sure all of your scouts are INTJs. (Myer/Briggs)

 

[casmith07]

There's a K projected to go in the 3rd. If he's BPA in the 4th, would you take him?

No, we already have the BPA at kicker.

All Hail Daniel of the House Bailey, the First of His Name, King of the Field Goal and the Extra Point, Lord of the Uprights, and Protector of Leads.​

 

[ConceptCoop]

No, we already have the BPA at kicker.

All Hail Daniel of the House Bailey, the First of His Name, King of the Field Goal and the Extra Point, Lord of the Uprights, and Protector of Leads.​

I like my nickname for him, too: Danny Stones.

 

[Chuck 54]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!


You still have a couple of days to over analyze.

Can't quit now.
Don't be a quitter.

LMAO....you know I questioned the player after hitting submit. Hopefully, the Cowboys will do like the Costner character in the movie and go back to whomever they rated best before listening to a million voices and questioning themselves too much.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

This statement caused me to disregard the rest of your statement. Why? Because you saying it doesn't make it true. All teams draft BPA sometimes. It's when they don't that they screw up.

BPA is all a theory though, since guys that everyone say is the BPA often fail.

 

[Angus12]

This statement caused me to disregard the rest of your statement. Why? Because you saying it doesn't make it true. All teams draft BPA sometimes. It's when they don't that they screw up.

Well, it's a good thing you quit there, then. Because the rest of what he had to say completely shot your 100% BPA theory all to hell.

 

[YosemiteSam]

BPA is all a theory though, since guys that everyone say is the BPA often fail.

I already said this. If you want the best talent / quality evaluation. Your scouts should all be INTJs. If they aren't. Fire them and hire INTJs.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Well, it's a good thing you quit there, then. Because the rest of what he had to say completely shot your 100% BPA theory all to hell.

Whatever you say Angus. Some burgers need flipping.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

So you think a CB/Safety that skyrocketed to the top of some of these


I have a hard time believing that Joey Bosa is not near the top of everyone's draft board when it comes to BPA. It seems like the very, very, very small dip that he may have taken on some of the boards was after the combine. Let's also remember that the combine has caused players to drop that should not have and players to rise should not have. Ramsey is very athletic and has all the tools you would want but his production of having 0 interceptions in 2015 worries me. Heck, even Bosa intercepted a ball last year and knocked a couple of QBs out of the game to boot. Bosa plays nasty and I want a nasty/mean DLine.

I think it's more production related, and his positive drug test. I believe he was suspended the first game because of a positive test and then he didn't test at the combine. I think teams are looking at that and wondering if he's a guy who, if you put him on a line with a real good edge rusher, will he produce double digit sacks but if you put him on a line where he has to be that guy, will he be able to do that?

 

[Chuck 54]

Damn. I was with you till you demanded a specific player.

Here I thought I'd stumbled on the, "I'm tired of overanalyzing, let's just draft already." thread.

But nope, just another thread for people to argue about why Player A is clearly a HOF and Player B is gonna bust like no other.

Guess I'll have to keep looking.

Ha....no comments on HOF or busts. As a matter of fact, Zeke is no doubt going to be great. I don't see a bust in any of the players at the top....(ummm, other than the QBs who might both bust). But I began on the Bosa train long ago, yet I'm angry for allowing the numnuts on tv to make me waffle every time I turn on the TV. I'm just back to basics.

I hope it's Bosa.
I'll be happy with Ramsey.
While I think RB is foolish, I'll enjoy watching Elliott who will be great for the offense, and I'll hope we go defense heavy the rest of the way.

 

[CATCH17]

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How does that not have a million likes?

 

[Chuck 54]

I think you're over-analyzing that you're over-analyzing

******!!!

It's a process.

 

[CyberB0b]

BPA = Done Correctly.
Everything else = Stupidity

So Tunsil is your guy?

 

[CyberB0b]

Some think BPA is black and white gospel, but it's not. Nobody drafts just based on BPA, nor should they. If Gurley is a 98 and Luck is a 97, in a vacuum, you take Luck 100 times out of a 100. If RT happens to be the top rated guy on your board the first 3 rounds, you don't draft 3 RTs in a row.

If Paxton Lynch is the top rated guy on the Colts or Panthers board, they're still not taking him. Just like we're not drafting a K, even if he's BPA.

Your board should already factor in your Gurley vs Luck equation. There's no team that would ever have Gurley ranked higher than Luck on a draft board.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

How does that not have a million likes?

You know, when you look at Greg Ellis' career as a whole and the numbers he put up, I'd say it would not be bad to get that type of production (minus the injured seasons). With QB out of the equation, I really think we're splitting hairs between a number of prospects that have almost similar upside.

 

[ConceptCoop]

Your board should already factor in your Gurley vs Luck equation. There's no team that would ever have Gurley ranked higher than Luck on a draft board.

I don't want to go too much more into it. Luck wasn't the best example, because he was considered elite. Maybe Newton or Winston are better. But the point was simply this: Player A might be a better RB than player is B a QB. But if their grades are close AT ALL, teams value player B more. Another example: The Colts, Titans, Bucs, and Panthers aren't drafting a QB in the first 2 rounds. Period. That doesn't mean they don't buy into the general theory of BPA.

 

[CATCH17]

You know, when you look at Greg Ellis' career as a whole and the numbers he put up, I'd say it would not be bad to get that type of production (minus the injured seasons). With QB out of the equation, I really think we're splitting hairs between a number of prospects that have almost similar upside.

Ellis was a goof player. He really took it to another level when Parcells got here.

With that said.. He's not worthy of a top 5 pick.

If we want to move back and get more picks then i'm fine taking Bosa.