I'm so sick of hearing about our great offense

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Parcells' style has ever been to score a lot of points but to get a lead and control the clock. It's called "playing-not-to-lose" and is the way he's been his entire career. You get a lead and sit on it waiting for the other team to make mistakes. He did that with the Giants and every team he has coached since so it shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone.

The thing Parcells forgot was that it only works when you have a dominant defense that can stop people and pressure them into making mistakes. We didn't have that in Dallas and it cost us because he was unable/unwilling to make adjustments to his style.

I felt all along that he was too old in his thinking and wasn't a good fit, at least on game day. Old people tend to be afraid and that is how Parcells appeared all the time, afraid of losing.

We have the talent on both sides of the ball, thanks in large part to Parcells, to be a dominant team and with the new coaching staff we should see that come to fruition.

Parcells did a good job of weeding out the undesirable players and stocking the team with solid people who will show up and play every week but he had lost his competitive edge when it came time to play the game IMO. Too many times we saw him just stick with what wasn't working for no apparent reason when it was obvious to nearly everyone else that a change should be made.
 

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Myself I do think this offense is very good with the chance to become even better. Yes Dallas put up some big numbers on some bad teams as did the other top scoring teams, that is not surprising at all.
 
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TheSport78;1526927 said:
First off I want to say that I have high hopes for this Dallas team in 2007. However when reporters like Mickey Spagnola are talking up our offense because it put up 425 points (not including playoffs), it ticks me off. I looked at the Cowboys' 2006 season game-by-game and Spagnola is incorrect in his analysis. He forgot that our defense scored 4 TD's in 06' (28 pts) and scored once on special teams (Newman punt return TD against DET, 7 pts). Him and other reporters/fans need to look at the facts. If you discard the defensive and special teams scores, our offense really put up 390 points scored in the regular season, and only 55 of those points went against teams with winning records. We were 1-3 against teams with winning records by the way. This is what the Cowboys have been known for pretty recently. We beat up on the bad teams and struggle against the good teams. Until the Cowboys of the 21st century learn how to play in big game situations against solid teams CONSISTENTLY, I'm not going to get excited about this year. I think our inability to come through in the "big game" was due to a lack of character and a lack of leadership on both sides of the ball. I'm hoping Romo will become that leader we've lacked for about 7 years now, and Hamlin to become that QB of the defense we need badly.

Against teams that ended with winning records in 06')
Week 5: @ PHI (17 pts.)
Week 11: IND (14 pts.)
Week 14: NO (17 pts.)
Week 16: PHI (7 pts.)

Note: All stats do NOT include the playoff game @ SEA.

When you look at those loses, the offensive line wasn't dominant either. Dallas teams of the 90's had ONE consistant variable, the offense line was the best in the league, hands down.
 

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TheSport78;1526927 said:
First off I want to say that I have high hopes for this Dallas team in 2007. However when reporters like Mickey Spagnola are talking up our offense because it put up 425 points (not including playoffs), it ticks me off. I looked at the Cowboys' 2006 season game-by-game and Spagnola is incorrect in his analysis. He forgot that our defense scored 4 TD's in 06' (28 pts) and scored once on special teams (Newman punt return TD against DET, 7 pts). Him and other reporters/fans need to look at the facts. If you discard the defensive and special teams scores, our offense really put up 390 points scored in the regular season, and only 55 of those points went against teams with winning records. We were 1-3 against teams with winning records by the way. This is what the Cowboys have been known for pretty recently. We beat up on the bad teams and struggle against the good teams. Until the Cowboys of the 21st century learn how to play in big game situations against solid teams CONSISTENTLY, I'm not going to get excited about this year. I think our inability to come through in the "big game" was due to a lack of character and a lack of leadership on both sides of the ball. I'm hoping Romo will become that leader we've lacked for about 7 years now, and Hamlin to become that QB of the defense we need badly.

Against teams that ended with winning records in 06')
Week 5: @ PHI (17 pts.)
Week 11: IND (14 pts.)
Week 14: NO (17 pts.)
Week 16: PHI (7 pts.)

Note: All stats do NOT include the playoff game @ SEA.

Your so sick of hearing about our great offense so what do you do??? Start a thread about it so you can hear more about our great offense??:confused:

Genius!:D
 

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THUMPER;1527028 said:
Parcells' style has ever been to score a lot of points but to get a lead and control the clock. It's called "playing-not-to-lose" and is the way he's been his entire career. You get a lead and sit on it waiting for the other team to make mistakes. He did that with the Giants and every team he has coached since so it shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone.

The thing Parcells forgot was that it only works when you have a dominant defense that can stop people and pressure them into making mistakes. We didn't have that in Dallas and it cost us because he was unable/unwilling to make adjustments to his style.

I felt all along that he was too old in his thinking and wasn't a good fit, at least on game day. Old people tend to be afraid and that is how Parcells appeared all the time, afraid of losing.

We have the talent on both sides of the ball, thanks in large part to Parcells, to be a dominant team and with the new coaching staff we should see that come to fruition.

Parcells did a good job of weeding out the undesirable players and stocking the team with solid people who will show up and play every week but he had lost his competitive edge when it came time to play the game IMO. Too many times we saw him just stick with what wasn't working for no apparent reason when it was obvious to nearly everyone else that a change should be made.

Good post Thumper..... I agree.
 

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1fisher;1527145 said:
Your so sick of hearing about our great offense so what do you do??? Start a thread about it so you can hear more about our great offense??:confused:

Genius!:D

Couldn't think of a better title..listen there are some that disagree with me and that's fine. In my OPINION, I'm saying our offense beat up on the weaker teams in the NFL. Another point I should make is that only THREE teams on our schedule finished with a winning record! Only ONE team finished with more than 10 wins (IND).
 

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Big Dakota;1526937 said:
I'm not blaming Bill totally, but i think we will be a lot less vanilla on O and D with Wade and Jason. We became so darn predictable in December EVERY STINKIN YEAR under Parcells.

Exactly. His philosophy didnt mesh with what we had. Individual matchups having to be one. That leaves guys like Watkins/Davis and Brady James out there to win individual matchups
 

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TheSport78;1527159 said:
Couldn't think of a better title..listen there are some that disagree with me and that's fine. In my OPINION, I'm saying our offense beat up on the weaker teams in the NFL. Another point I should make is that only THREE teams on our schedule finished with a winning record! Only ONE team finished with more than 10 wins (IND).

No one is saying you can't have your opinion, just that what you are complaining about is true of all teams. Weaker teams are always beat up on, and better (winning) teams are harder to score against.
 

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TheSport78;1527159 said:
Couldn't think of a better title..listen there are some that disagree with me and that's fine. In my OPINION, I'm saying our offense beat up on the weaker teams in the NFL. Another point I should make is that only THREE teams on our schedule finished with a winning record!

Again, that's a meaningless statement without perspective. There were only 11 other teams with a winning record -- or 35 percent of the other teams. In the NFC, there were only four other teams with a winning record -- 27 percent. We play only 12 teams altogether, so the fact that three of them -- 25 percent -- finished with a winning record shouldn't be surprising. And remember, we beat three teams that finished 8-8. If we had lost those games, we would have faced six "winning" teams -- far more than the NFL average.
 

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Big Dakota;1526937 said:
I'm not blaming Bill totally, but i think we will be a lot less vanilla on O and D with Wade and Jason. We became so darn predictable in December EVERY STINKIN YEAR under Parcells.

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Every stinkin' PLAY.


:hammer:in case you didn't hear me --> :hammer:
 

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Big Dakota;1526937 said:
I'm not blaming Bill totally, but i think we will be a lot less vanilla on O and D with Wade and Jason. We became so darn predictable in December EVERY STINKIN YEAR under Parcells.
Understandable you feel that way. I know I do.
 

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eman721;1526952 said:
Oh, and I'm not going to break down how each of these teams' offenses fared against winning teams. Too much work.
Please, someone do look at our scoring against playoff teams and compare it to other teams' offenses. It will end the argument.
 

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theogt;1527648 said:
Please, someone do look at our scoring against playoff teams and compare it to other teams' offenses. It will end the argument.

I don't think we fare well.
 

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superpunk;1527657 said:
I don't think we fare well.
Against playoff teams we had 19.14 PPG, which would put us at about 22nd ranked against other offenses' entire season.

My guess is we'd be top 5-10 if you looked at other offenses' performance against only playoff teams.
 

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theogt;1527680 said:
Against playoff teams we had 19.14 PPG, which would put us at about 22nd ranked against other offenses' entire season.

My guess is we'd be top 5-10 if you looked at other offenses' performance against only playoff teams.

NO - 30.25 ppg
PHI - 27.67
IND - 36
SD - 20 ppg..

and im spent...
 

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superpunk;1527736 said:
NO - 30.25 ppg
PHI - 27.67
IND - 36
SD - 20 ppg..

and im spent...
Please, don't over-exert yourself. I know that was some intense math for this late in the afternoon.
 

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Last year in was the first season in a long time where I wasnt too worrried about the offense being able to score enough points.
 

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theogt;1527743 said:
Please, don't over-exert yourself. I know that was some intense math for this late in the afternoon.

lol...it already looks bad - i gave up. Maybe the decreasing trend would continue further below us.
 
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