I'm sorry but Cooper Rush isn't good

[leeblair]

Some of the fans on this board think Rush is good and would rather have him as the starter.

Yes that's true and no it isn't funny.

Over Dak?
EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR!
It would have paid big dividends for the past three seasons.
Instead, Dak has choked away every seadon.

 

[leeblair]

The question is not is Rush comparable to Peak Dak; the question is when Dak comes back from Injury will he still be better than Rush?

He never was.

 

[Mr_437]

Looked pretty good out there today


Rush has 10 TDs in 6 starts

Dak had 11 TDs in 8 starts

Ah yes stats, the fact that Cooper Rush stats are only slightly worse than Daks makes them comparable, and that means if Cooper is considered trash put Dak in the same trash heap.
Rush = noodle arm
Dak = noodle brain
Nearly the same amount of TDs, less picks (5 less) in 2 less games.

 

[starfan1]

You guys value an individual player's contract over winning? That's weird.

Na Daks overpaid what I don’t value is the constant Dak blame in here when he is just a symptom of the problem.

There has been no time that he’s been the main issue and he’s certainly not been the only issue

If you played this game you’d know it takes 11 and no amount of $$ the QB makes changes that

I just enjoy that it irritates the malcontents because thread after thread of Dak hate is just misplaced. Jerry is the issue it’s been going on for 30 years not 8

 

[Ranching]

I'm admitting to laughing at morons who are triggered by Dak's mere existence .. I am admitting to finding it comical that people who couldn't hit the ocean with a football from a cruise ship question his accuracy even though the statistics show he is one of the most accurate passers in the league year in and year out. I am admitting to enjoying troll roasting the idiots who claim Rush is a more accurate passer despite a far lower completion percentage and a much lower accurate throw percentage despite throwing significantly shorter passes. I enjoy calling out people who claim that it's "not about the money" then turn around and blame the roster flaws on Dak's salary. Even though most of those same flaws existed when he was making his 4th round pick rookie deal salary. I enjoy exposing those people for who they are.

To be clear I am miserable when my team loses. Playoffs, regular season hell I don't even like watching them lose in preseason. I just take occasional solace in how mad Dak being the Cowboys QB makes some people. And how mad his salary makes them. I can be unhappy when he has bad games AND happy about other things. It's not either/or. People are obviously free to hate Dak or any other player for any reason they see fit.. and I am free to laugh at them and revel in their misery at not getting their way!!

 

[Ranching]

Using regular people as a barometer against NFL players doesn't make sense.

Not much sense around here, anyway.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

These Jardience

Could possibly be the most ridiculous thread ever started in this forum. The fan who started it either disappeared or got permanently banned.

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/cooper-rush-the-man-who-can-lead-dallas-to-lombardi.505507/

@leeblair

Is that one of your ghost account

LoL

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

We'll find out next year, I suppose. I'm not convinced, because Dak looked bad before the injury. If he stays immobile in the backfield and keep taking sacks, then he's done for.

Didn't look good.

Rush loomed awful against good competition.

Rush always looks half competent against pa thers and giants of the world.

 

[KJJ]

@leeblair

Is that one of your ghost account

LoL

Probably is. It sounds like him. lol I make sure to keep track of that thread because a lot of people here think I’m making it up.

 

[kskboys]

Na Daks overpaid what I don’t value is the constant Dak blame in here when he is just a symptom of the problem.

There has been no time that he’s been the main issue and he’s certainly not been the only issue

If you played this game you’d know it takes 11 and no amount of $$ the QB makes changes that

I just enjoy that it irritates the malcontents because thread after thread of Dak hate is just misplaced. Jerry is the issue it’s been going on for 30 years not 8

OK, that makes sense.

I did play this game, and I also know that it not only takes 11, it takes a talented 11, especially at this level. And you are incorrect, the higher the salaries of others, the less talented the other 10 will be.

 

[kskboys]

Not much sense around here, anyway.

With that I cannot argue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And that goes especially for anything pertaining to Dak.

 

[Cmac]

Ah yes stats, the fact that Cooper Rush stats are only slightly worse than Daks makes them comparable, and that means if Cooper is considered trash put Dak in the same trash heap.
Rush = noodle arm
Dak = noodle brain
Nearly the same amount of TDs, less picks (5 less) in 2 less games.

Don't hold back....tell us how you really feel.

 

[starfan1]

OK, that makes sense.

I did play this game, and I also know that it not only takes 11, it takes a talented 11, especially at this level. And you are incorrect, the higher the salaries of others, the less talented the other 10 will be.

There is data that suggest the best time to achieve success is when your qb is on the rookie contract so in one sense I agree

that said when Jerry has had the money he doesn’t use it to properly build a team he’s had a long history of failing since the salary cap began

I’ve also watched his dumbarse literally pass over positions of need in FA and draft or bargain bin shop time after time

It don’t matter who is qb or DT or RB or WR as long as skelator and little Enos is running things expect more of the same

You’re anger or malcontent over contracts is futile Jerry has shown not to spend in right places for the right people even when the opportunity presents itself.

I no longer get worked up over this teams success or lack of it

Some of the fans annoy me but that’s a me issue the older I get the less tolerant I am

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Na Daks overpaid what I don’t value is the constant Dak blame in here when he is just a symptom of the problem.

There has been no time that he’s been the main issue and he’s certainly not been the only issue

If you played this game you’d know it takes 11 and no amount of $$ the QB makes changes that

I just enjoy that it irritates the malcontents because thread after thread of Dak hate is just misplaced. Jerry is the issue it’s been going on for 30 years not 8

I think there are VERY few people here who just blame Dak. Of course Dak gets a lot of it. It's not just "because Dak". All QB's get the blame...and the glory. Then the largest NFL contract in history doesn't ease any criticism, especially with some very average play and seemingly declining physical skills. Not to mention building up a serious injury resume.

I see PLENTY of HEAVY criticism of jerry, Stephen, MM, Zeke, now Martin....heck even CD gets some now and then. It isn't just Dak.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

there is a reason rush makes 2M....nobody in the league wanted him. he is nothing but a filler. there is zero chance any team wins anything with Rush, thus 2M. NFL is littered with them.

Your logic here...kinda odd. You say nobody in the league wants him...yet the league is littered with QB like him?

That would imply the NFL teams DO want QB's like him, I'd say. Or, let's say...forced to even, no difference.

So what's the record of all these other QB's like him? 8-4?

 

[starfan1]

I think there are VERY few people here who just blame Dak. Of course Dak gets a lot of it. It's not just "because Dak". All QB's get the blame...and the glory. Then the largest NFL contract in history doesn't ease any criticism, especially with some very average play and seemingly declining physical skills. Not to mention building up a serious injury resume.

I see PLENTY of HEAVY criticism of jerry, Stephen, MM, Zeke, now Martin....heck even CD gets some now and then. It isn't just Dak.

Steve look at the front page and after and get back to me when you can pull up all the other players that the fans create threads about and it’s been like that sense his rookie contract

Our fanbase is spoiled and some very illiterate when it comes to understanding the game

It’s more than a few and the $$$ don’t matter when you can’t overcome the GMs incompetence

While Brady and and Mahomes are worlds better this fanbase would complain about them as well because I highly doubt either of them would overcome skeletors negligence

The 1 thing I agree with is qbs get too much credit and blame

 

[McKDaddy]

I find it amusing that a lot of poster conveniently forget that they were proponents of signing Dak to anything he wanted because according to them he was one of the greatest and there was no chance to replace him within 10 years. Now, surprise, surprise, they don't want anyone to talk about the bad contract, the dismal future or their support of the horrible decisions.

So now they try to act like everyone should move on & not mention anything related to The Mistake.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Your logic here...kinda odd. You say nobody in the league wants him...yet the league is littered with QB like him?

That would imply the NFL teams DO want QB's like him, I'd say. Or, let's say...forced to even, no difference.

So what's the record of all these other QB's like him? 8-4?

its not odd. the market for QBs like him is about 2M...the league is littered with the likes of him making about as much. Cowboys like the comfort zone.

and my point about nobody wanting him....he was left unprotected. TWICE. nobody signed him. he did go to Giants, following Garrett for one year. then was released. no offers except cowboys. cowboys couple of years back, as a ploy for roster manuvering cut him at the end of training camp. he was able to sign with anyone. or anyone making him an offer, yet nobody did. cowboys picked him up again. if he was so good that he could have taken the 2022 cowboys to superbowl according to some, you figure some QB needy team would just gobble him up. nope. no offers except dallas.

and this 8-4 stuff is getting old. so I guess you are saying, wins/losses are a QB record and not a team record.
this is over four years of spotty play. this year, his latest he is 3-3. you all keep touting his career record. Dak is 76-46, which ranks him 4th in total wins since 2016. he is 22-25 against teams with a winning record...for good measure Stafford is 12-72.....Allen is 17-17, Rodgers is 42-44...... Burrow 8-10 .....cousing is 14-43
and if we lose the next three games, are you still going to tout his 8 wins?

I am sure you are going to say, he makes 2 M and Dak 60M....because that's where everything goes when all else fails with you all.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I am sure you are going to say, he makes 2 M and Dak 60M....because that's where everything goes when all else fails with you all.

Wrong again. I have NEVER compared salaries ever. So this "ya'll" thing you got going you can stick it up....


Still wrong about your logic. You said no QB wants him ...but the league is full of him. So they didn't want the likes of hm because they ALREADY have the likes of him. It doesn't make him inferior to them. Makes him equal.

If you would have just STOPPED at the "nobody wanted him"...that would be correct. When you tried to get into the logic of it you got lost.

Dak Crusading...it rattles the brain

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Wrong again. I have NEVER compared salaries ever. So this "ya'll" thing you got going you can stick it up....


Still wrong about your logic. You said no QB wants him ...but the league is full of him. So they didn't want the likes of hm because they ALREADY have the likes of him. It doesn't make him inferior to them. Makes him equal.

If you would have just STOPPED at the "nobody wanted him"...that would be correct. When you tried to get into the logic of it you got lost.

Dak Crusading...it rattles the brain

ok, so you don't talk salary (so says you).
now go talk to all your other cult brothers. given each one has a different measure and goal post on wheels.

OMG, you just like to argue don't you!!!?? sticking to just one word. and keep picking picking picking. what's you point? what are you trying to prove? where you going with this?

what do you mean "makes him equal". is that your point of your argument.
they are all equally crapp.
Rush can be cut and replaced in a heart beat with somebody similar. off the street.going rate in NFL market for QBs like him is about 2M...give or take a little.

geez dude. I must still be under your skin, since you keep following me around, jumping in the middle of a conversation, picking something stupid to just keep posting about trying to win an argument (is that it? is this what you are doing?)
so you feel better about yourself?
again what's your point with all of this? what are you trying to prove son?