Im sorry, but T.O. is...

[juck]

not 100% to blame.After hearing Mcnabb ,and talking to a few friends that live in Philly,mcnabb seems to have just as big an ego ,kind of like thinking thats his team.I agree T.O. is a trouble maker,but he produces non stop.If you fixed a few pieces in our Oline and got a Playmaker like him,we would be on our way.

 

[Doomsday101]

not 100% to blame.After hearing Mcnabb ,and talking to a few friends that live in Philly,mcnabb seems to have just as big an ego ,kind of like thinking thats his team.I agree T.O. is a trouble maker,but he produces non stop.If you fixed a few pieces in our Oline and got a Playmaker like him,we would be on our way.

It may not be all his fault but it does not change the fact that TO has been with 2 teams and the outcome has been the same. McNabb was not in SF so the only common in both SF and Philly is TO. I don't think Dallas needs a guy who can cause as much problems as TO has created in not 1 city but 2 cities.

 

[Yeagermeister]

The QB should be the leader of them team.

 

[1fisher]

It may not be all his fault but it does not change the fact that TO has been with 2 teams and the outcome has been the same. McNabb was not in SF so the only common in both SF and Philly is TO. I don't think Dallas needs a guy who can cause as much problems as TO has created in not 1 city but 2 cities.

:signmast: 100% bro.....

 

[killdaskins]

HE ONLY COMPLAINS WHEN HE NOT WINNING AND IF UR NOT GETTING HIM THE BALL HE WILL COMPLAIN THAT IS EXPECTED IN SF THAT STUNK UP THEY PLACE IN PHILLY THEY WHERE GREAT THE FIRST YEAR WHEN HE ASKED FOR WHAT HE SHOULD BE DUE HE WAS CRITICIZED I TRUTHFULLY THINK MCNABB SABOTAGED HIM LAST YEAR EVERY PASS THROWN HIS WAY HE HAD TO REACH FOR OR WAS TOO LOW FOR HIM TO CATCH AND HE STILL MADE PLAYS AS SOON AS HE LEFT THE TEAM PASSES GOT BETTER

 

[aikemirv]

Who was it 2 years ago crying because he wanted to play on the Eagles - he wanted to play with Donovan.

He created all of these problems not Mcnabb. Is McNabb a little off in his comments - yes I would say - but that does nothing to vendicate what TO did to that team.

He started it all with the hold out 1 year after he signed the deal. He is the one who complains when he does not get the ball enough.

I mean, you and I have seen before TO ever got to Philly that McNabb was not the most accurate passer in the NFL. TO is not blind to that - he wanted to go to Philly even though that was the case. How can he complain about it after he gets there?

How can you absolve him from that. He made his bed - he should have laid down and accepted it and played out at least 2-3 years of his contract beofre making such a big mess!

 

[FRDRCK]

mcnabb sounded like a fool sayin it was black on black crime, T.O. isn't even the one thought brought up Brett Favre and that wasn't even the situation, the situation was that Michael Irvin said that if Brett Favre was on the eagles instead of the packers then he would be undefeated meaning that Favre could be undefeated w/ a better team and T.O. just agreed with that.

 

[ravidubey]

It may not be all his fault but it does not change the fact that TO has been with 2 teams and the outcome has been the same. McNabb was not in SF so the only common in both SF and Philly is TO. I don't think Dallas needs a guy who can cause as much problems as TO has created in not 1 city but 2 cities.

This is somewhat faulty logic. Yes, T.O. made comments about both QB's when things started going wrong. That's where the similarities end, I believe.

It doesn't change the facts that:

- Both QB's had problems, big problems, with their performance.
- SF cut Jeff Garcia
- Both organizations had failed to upgrade their teams
- T.O. played as well or better than any other offensive player on either team
- T.O. practiced hard in every practice where he was not banned
- SF failed to re-sign TO because they were a crumbling franchise and weren't going to spend big money on an older player.
- Philly management blamed TO for their own failures, their team's inability to perform, their team's bad morale, and the Iraq war.

 

[Ashwynn]

not 100% to blame.After hearing Mcnabb ,and talking to a few friends that live in Philly,mcnabb seems to have just as big an ego ,kind of like thinking thats his team.I agree T.O. is a trouble maker,but he produces non stop.If you fixed a few pieces in our Oline and got a Playmaker like him,we would be on our way.

But you fail to see the big picture here. Its all a root of TO. If he were never on that team, McFlabb would not have had a damn thing to say yesterday or when ever he said it.

Its all fall out from the initial explosion. remember how pple said TO was a poison, a cancer. Consider that poison still lingering and still hurting the team. The cancer has spread to other parts of the team now and guess what. Its all downhill from here.

Way to go To. Irreparable damage to two teams. Baltimore and Denver pissed off at you. Youreallywant this cancer here?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

This is somewhat faulty logic. Yes, T.O. made comments about both QB's when things started going wrong. That's where the similarities end, I believe.

It doesn't change the facts that:

- Both QB's had problems, big problems, with their performance.
- SF cut Jeff Garcia
- Both organizations had failed to upgrade their teams
- T.O. played as well or better than any other offensive player on either team
- T.O. practiced hard in every practice where he was not banned
- SF failed to re-sign TO because they were a crumbling franchise and weren't going to spend big money on an older player.
- Philly management blamed TO for their own failures, their team's inability to perform, their team's bad morale, and the Iraq war.

Wow! This shocks me. I guess I just feel as if I clearly see a pattern. When he's not winning, he's trouble. He asks for more money, did it his last two seasons in SF and did it in Philly. Each place, he punked his QB. Did McNappie handle it wrong? I believe there's some responsability there but if we can believe the reports of why this whole thing started, it's over money. Because McNappie didn't demand more money for Owens? How is that his job?

You don't screw your QB in public. I don't really care what the circumstances are. It's not a good direction to take and this is SOP for Owens.

 

[jman]

HE ONLY COMPLAINS WHEN HE NOT WINNING AND IF UR NOT GETTING HIM THE BALL HE WILL COMPLAIN THAT IS EXPECTED IN SF THAT STUNK UP THEY PLACE IN PHILLY THEY WHERE GREAT THE FIRST YEAR WHEN HE ASKED FOR WHAT HE SHOULD BE DUE HE WAS CRITICIZED I TRUTHFULLY THINK MCNABB SABOTAGED HIM LAST YEAR EVERY PASS THROWN HIS WAY HE HAD TO REACH FOR OR WAS TOO LOW FOR HIM TO CATCH AND HE STILL MADE PLAYS AS SOON AS HE LEFT THE TEAM PASSES GOT BETTER

He was leading the league in receptions and yardage when he got suspended...what more does he want?

McNabb sabotaging TO???? LOL...now that's funny.

"WHEN HE ASKED FOR WHAT HE SHOULD BE DUE HE WAS CRITICIZED"...He was getting exactly what he was due...He wanted more!

 

[Ashwynn]

This is somewhat faulty logic. Yes, T.O. made comments about both QB's when things started going wrong. That's where the similarities end, I believe.

It doesn't change the facts that:

- Both QB's had problems, big problems, with their performance.
- SF cut Jeff Garcia
- Both organizations had failed to upgrade their teams
- T.O. played as well or better than any other offensive player on either team
- T.O. practiced hard in every practice where he was not banned
- SF failed to re-sign TO because they were a crumbling franchise and weren't going to spend big money on an older player.
- Philly management blamed TO for their own failures, their team's inability to perform, their team's bad morale, and the Iraq war.

o the fact that the QBs had issues give TO license to become a cancerous poisonous destroyer of teams.

If your on a sucky team, youwait till FAy. You then make sure your agent files the correct papers on time. If he screws up, you dont have the right to tear another human being down to build yourself up. You dont have the right to become pompous and assinine in your behavior towards your fellow teammates.

You can look at it from any angle, it still is a bad person displaying the best of the worst in human beings. A greedy, immature, irresponsible person out ssolely for himself at the expense of everyone else in the world.

His daddy should pull him behind the wood shed and not stop beating till the kickoff of the 2007 season. Even then tht may not be enough to beat any common sense and dcnecy into the man.

He is a pile of human garbage, a waste of the oxygen he breaths. Hes no better then saddam Hussein. You think if hes sitting on a throne of some country, hes not going to turn the screws to his pple. Screw this guy totally and send him to Iraq. It would be doing mankind a service.

 

[Doomsday101]

This is somewhat faulty logic. Yes, T.O. made comments about both QB's when things started going wrong. That's where the similarities end, I believe.

It doesn't change the facts that:

- Both QB's had problems, big problems, with their performance.
- SF cut Jeff Garcia
- Both organizations had failed to upgrade their teams
- T.O. played as well or better than any other offensive player on either team
- T.O. practiced hard in every practice where he was not banned
- SF failed to re-sign TO because they were a crumbling franchise and weren't going to spend big money on an older player.
- Philly management blamed TO for their own failures, their team's inability to perform, their team's bad morale, and the Iraq war.

TO is not the coach he is a player he is paid to play not to get on ESPN and rip teammates. TO has causes his own problems no one else and to push blame on others for his behavior is just wrong. TO is the problem

 

[killdaskins]

When He Got Suspended It Wasn't B/c He Asked For More Money He Wanted To Be Aknowledge Anybody Else Would Want The Same He Fill Alot Of Voids For Them To Treat Him Like An Off The Bench Player Mcnabb Was Soar Cause T.o. Was Taking Away From Him Being Philly's Golden Boy

 

[jman]

When He Got Suspended It Wasn't B/c He Asked For More Money He Wanted To Be Aknowledge Anybody Else Would Want The Same He Fill Alot Of Voids For Them To Treat Him Like An Off The Bench Player Mcnabb Was Soar Cause T.o. Was Taking Away From Him Being Philly's Golden Boy

What?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

When He Got Suspended It Wasn't B/c He Asked For More Money He Wanted To Be Aknowledge Anybody Else Would Want The Same He Fill Alot Of Voids For Them To Treat Him Like An Off The Bench Player Mcnabb Was Soar Cause T.o. Was Taking Away From Him Being Philly's Golden Boy

Punctuation.

 

[4lifecowboy]

mcnabb sounded like a fool sayin it was black on black crime, T.O. isn't even the one thought brought up Brett Favre and that wasn't even the situation, the situation was that Michael Irvin said that if Brett Favre was on the eagles instead of the packers then he would be undefeated meaning that Favre could be undefeated w/ a better team and T.O. just agreed with that.

It did sound foolish the way he worded it but i get the logist of what he was saying. You really have to take in account to the fact that the acceptance of black QBs in the NFL is a fairly recent development, that along with all the criticism he has faced here in the recent past, because of the color of his skin and the position he plays then you could relate to his perspective. Not that it is the right perspective but I could see how he could see it as another slap in the face.

 

[DLCassidy]

He is a pile of human garbage, a waste of the oxygen he breaths. Hes no better then saddam Hussein. You think if hes sitting on a throne of some country, hes not going to turn the screws to his pple. Screw this guy totally and send him to Iraq. It would be doing mankind a service.

Don't sugarcoat it Ashwynn, tell us what you really think.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It did sound foolish the way he worded it but i get the logist of what he was saying. You really have to take in account to the fact that the acceptance of black QBs in the NFL is a fairly recent development, that along with all the criticism he has faced here in the recent past, because of the color of his skin and the position he plays then you could relate to his perspective. Not that it is the right perspective but I could see how he could see it as another slap in the face.

I, personally, don't go for this. In the interview with TO, the question of Brett Favre and the possability of Philly being unbeaten if he were at the Helm, was in response to a comment Michael Irvin had made a week earlier. Basically, he was asked about what he thought of the comment, I believe. TO responded in the affirmative. He basically agreed with Irvin's take on the matter. I grant you, a bit unsesitively, but still. Totally inappropriate considering the teams situation at the time but hardly racial IMO. Went over like a 3 pound mistake your dog makes on the living room rug, in the middle of your X-mas party, to be sure. Still, not racially motivated in context. To be honest, it couldn't happen to a better couple of guys IMO.

 

[4lifecowboy]

I, personally, don't go for this. In the interview with TO, the question of Brett Favre and the possability of Philly being unbeaten if he were at the Helm, was in response to a comment Michael Irvin had made a week earlier. Basically, he was asked about what he thought of the comment, I believe. TO responded in the affirmative. He basically agreed with Irvin's take on the matter. I grant you, a bit unsesitively, but still. Totally inappropriate considering the teams situation at the time but hardly racial IMO. Went over like a 3 pound mistake your dog makes on the living room rug, in the middle of your X-mas party, to be sure. Still, not racially motivated in context. To be honest, it couldn't happen to a better couple of guys IMO.

Well I don't know for sure what TO undertones were, as I am sure he dictates to some extent what he may and may not be asked in an interview, but that wasn't my point, the point i was trying to make is how McNabb probably percieved what was said enlight of all the other critisism he has face because his position and race.