IMO The Cowboys say to Romo:

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Angus;1482730 said:
And Romo will say: "Fine! You do that! And after I do pan out, see if next offseason you can sign me before I go to another team who has given me a better offer. "

You are forgetting who has the leverage. Romo is a free agent after the coming season. He doesn't have to sign with Dallas. If Dallas wants to tie him up, it has to meet his terms.

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Whatever, dude. Romo does not think like that and that's why we all love him. He's not Vick. Besides, Jerry takes care of his players when the time comes. If he was actually like the way you probably think everybody in the world is, I'd just as soon have Jerry kick him straight in the teeth straight to the curb, because that is not the type of qb that lines up under center in Dallas, or atleast shouldn't be. The world's not so dark, bra, turn on a light.

As far as leverage goes; A seemingly shiny star on the side of the Dallas Cowboy helmets that HAS many times in the past been more of a commodity to our top players then the almighty dollar. How many times did the triplets restructure and restructure their contracts to help this team? Or other players for that matter? How many have come here over the years for a reduced salary just to play for us? Yea Romo will hold some leverage, but don't think that isn't a two way street. Besides it's all moot, like I said above, Jerry takes care of his players, period and that's all there is too it. And by doing that he reserves the right to send any messages he wants whatsoever to his players through the media. They know at the end of the day if Jerry has something on his mind, that he'll also bring it straight to them in person. My bet is he even called Tony at some piont in the first round. Probably said, "hey we might have to do what we have to do" and Romo probably said, "hey wouldn't wanna be playing for you otherwise if you didn't, thanks for the heads up and I'll be ready for the season whatever happens". Yknow, and then they're probably like, "bye". Whatelse can be said, it's a professional world and people's feelings aren't hurt unless they're crybabies to begin with.
 

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zrinkill;1483428 said:
Romo needs to take it to the next level early this year ...... or alot of fans are going to be jumping off bridges on what "might have been" .....

Personally I would take Romo over Quinn ....... Quinn never impressed me.

Let them jump. :lmao2:
 

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The message was:

You are our man. We had a chance to draft a big-name QB, but we're showing you we trust in you, now prove us right.

The insurance policy is:
2 1st round picks. You screw us, or don't get better, we'll move you out and draft a top-notch QB in the draft next year (if there is one)
 

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Bleu Star;1482734 said:
There's a nice game of cat & mouse going on. No doubt Romo will pan out. I'm one of the biggest supporters of that which is Romo in this board. I just think the Cowboys made a brilliant move by providing themselves some insurance next year in the form of a high 1st round draft pick. If the Tony thing falls through they can go for a top flight QB. If the Tony thing does pan out (the more likely scenario) they can go get a top flight WR. The war room was working magic this weekend.

IF IF IF....... IF Romo doesn't work out and if he doesn't sign an extension... which college QB will we draft and how well will he work out?:D
 

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Bleu Star;1482715 said:
We're going to give you a good training camp and a whole year of football to get your sea legs under you behind and improved offensive line. If you don't pan out (which, in my mind, there is no doubt Mr. Moxie will impress) we have these two 1st round draft picks in 08 and we will not hesitate to use one of them on a QB. I believe the Boys sent a loud subliminal message to Romo. He will hear it clearly and lead us deep into the playoffs. :thumbup:

Yeah, threaten our QB. Thats how to get him to play well. :laugh2:

Lets tell him we want 5k yards passing on 92% completions percentages with a 51/2 TD to INT ratio. If he does that we won't spend both of our #1s next year replacing him... :p:
 

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Bob Sacamano;1482718 said:
Romo doesn't need any subliminal messages to motivate himself, he's been doing it for 4 years now

Seriously, Sac is right; this guy came outta nowhere to leade this team, regardless of his production when things fell apart at the end of the year... I mean seriously, do you guys know of any other E. Illinois players even making it to "the league" besides Sean Payton for those few games during the strike?

I WANT THE SEASON to start!!
 

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Angus;1482730 said:
And Romo will say: "Fine! You do that! And after I do pan out, see if next offseason you can sign me before I go to another team who has given me a better offer. "

You are forgetting who has the leverage. Romo is a free agent after the coming season. He doesn't have to sign with Dallas. If Dallas wants to tie him up, it has to meet his terms.

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NO, NO, NO way Romo acts like that... Romo may have leverage, but it was the Cowboys that drafted him, even after his terrible showing at the combine four years ago. Sean Payton may have asked us to draft him, but Payton is already entrenched with Brees and his long-term deal. Romo will NOT forget that we drafted him. He wil stay with us; I don't think he will cost more than Shaub's 6yr/48 million, which is fine by me. We are not dealing with an ****** here. All he wants to do is win; look at how he was after his press conference in Seattle after "the incident".
 

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DallasKnight;1482768 said:
Maybe, but I think there is a certain high profile RB that we will be targeting with a trade up with those two 1st rounders, if the Browns one isn't at the top already.
Second that.
 

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BouncingCheese;1483787 said:
NO, NO, NO way Romo acts like that... Romo may have leverage, but it was the Cowboys that drafted him, even after his terrible showing at the combine four years ago. Sean Payton may have asked us to draft him, but Payton is already entrenched with Brees and his long-term deal. Romo will NOT forget that we drafted him. He wil stay with us; I don't think he will cost more than Shaub's 6yr/48 million, which is fine by me. We are not dealing with an ****** here. All he wants to do is win; look at how he was after his press conference in Seattle after "the incident".

I agree . . . unless he is confronted with an ultimatum as was originally suggested.

Romo is not looking for trouble but will handle it if it finds him, I think. He turned down a long term contract last year because he wanted to be free in a year to move on if Dallas did not give him the shot he wanted.

I expect he still could resist an ultimatum if one came.

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Angus;1482730 said:
And Romo will say: "Fine! You do that! And after I do pan out, see if next offseason you can sign me before I go to another team who has given me a better offer. "

You are forgetting who has the leverage. Romo is a free agent after the coming season. He doesn't have to sign with Dallas. If Dallas wants to tie him up, it has to meet his terms.

:)


I agree.

Assuming Romo doesn't pan out or the Cowboys don't want to pay Romo the money, they're still looking at drafting another QB who will take at least three years to get his legs under him. (That's how long it took Aikman with the Triplets and I doubt any QB taken in the draft next year is going to be anywhere near Aikman.)

Meanwhile, DeMarcus Ware's contract will be coming up for redo. TO and Terry Glenn won't be on the team, Spencer's contract will likely have to be redone and several of the other Cowboys "stars."

We need Romo to succeed because if he doesn't then you're looking at another rebuilding effort at the quarterback position. And if it's a new quarterback, especially if he's a top draft pick, not only is he going to eat up a substantial amount of the salary cap but we have to wait for him to develop while are stars get either older or picked off in free agency.
 

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BouncingCheese;1483787 said:
NO, NO, NO way Romo acts like that... Romo may have leverage, but it was the Cowboys that drafted him, even after his terrible showing at the combine four years ago. Sean Payton may have asked us to draft him, but Payton is already entrenched with Brees and his long-term deal. Romo will NOT forget that we drafted him. He wil stay with us; I don't think he will cost more than Shaub's 6yr/48 million, which is fine by me. We are not dealing with an ****** here. All he wants to do is win; look at how he was after his press conference in Seattle after "the incident".

Money and fame can change a man, particularly if a team is willing to offer him more.
 

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The only thing this should say to Romo is that we got good value for the pick by trading it.

The people who say that we shouldn't draft Quinn because it would send the wrong message to Romo are in my humble opinion, wrong. I think that it is a good thing for every position, including QB, to have competition. It brings out the best in people.

Not having an option B also gives Romo more bargaining power (leverage) when it comes time to extend his contract. It also makes us very vulnerable and sets the franchise back if Romo doesn't turn out to be the answer.

I'm not saying we should have drafted Quinn, but I am saying that the foregoing reasons are not good reasons to pass on Quinn. If he was the BPA on our board we should have either traded him, or selected him.

I was thinking when we were on the clock, we are going to find out if we really select BPA or just give it lip service unless the pick is traded.
 

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Verdict;1484312 said:
The only thing this should say to Romo is that we got good value for the pick by trading it.

The people who say that we shouldn't draft Quinn because it would send the wrong message to Romo are in my humble opinion, wrong. I think that it is a good thing for every position, including QB, to have competition. It brings out the best in people.

Not having an option B also gives Romo more bargaining power (leverage) when it comes time to extend his contract. It also makes us very vulnerable and sets the franchise back if Romo doesn't turn out to be the answer.

I'm not saying we should have drafted Quinn, but I am saying that the foregoing reasons are not good reasons to pass on Quinn. If he was the BPA on our board we should have either traded him, or selected him.

I was thinking when we were on the clock, we are going to find out if we really select BPA or just give it lip service unless the pick is traded.

Drafting a QB in the 1st rd is different than drafting a QB later in the draft. Had Dallas drafted Quinn he would be here to take over, no question about it. Teams do not make 1st rd investements in QB's to sit on the bench.
 

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Doomsday101;1483235 said:
Had Dallas taken Quinn it would have been a message that the team was not satisfied with Romo. You don't use a #1 on a QB to be a backup. The fact that Dallas passed on Quinn and took the trade does show what type of confidence that the Cowboys have in Romo.


If we truly select the BPA it shouldn't say anything other than keep working hard or someone will be waiting to take your place. I love the trade down, but we gambled by passing on Quinn, if the Cowboys thought he was worth the #22 pick.
 

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Doomsday101;1484315 said:
Drafting a QB in the 1st rd is different than drafting a QB later in the draft. Had Dallas drafted Quinn he would be here to take over, no question about it. Teams do not make 1st rd investements in QB's to sit on the bench.

You are probably right, Dooms, but maybe they should, if he is the BPA. I think the reason we didn't select Quinn was we got value out of the trade down.

I don't see why the QB position should be viewed in a different light than other positions. If you had four DeMarcus Wares on your team wouldn't you draft another one if the opportunity arose? It seems a bit silly to say I wonder what message it will say to Ware that we drafted another person that plays his position. I don't understand why people view the QB position so much differently than other positions.

Keep in mind that in the draft you get paid based on where you got drafted, not based upon what position you play. When contracts get extended, the premium positions like QB eat up an inordinate amout of cap space relative to the other positions. That is why the premium money positions get a lot of attention early in the draft.

I am happy that we got great value out of the trade down, but if Romo bombs this year and Quinn turns out to be a franchise QB the trade down will look very poor in retrospect.
 

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Verdict;1484324 said:
You are probably right, Dooms, but maybe they should, if he is the BPA. I think the reason we didn't select Quinn was we got value out of the trade down.

I don't see why the QB position should be viewed in a different light than other positions. If you had four DeMarcus Wares on your team wouldn't you draft another one if the opportunity arose? It seems a bit silly to say I wonder what message it will say to Ware that we drafted another person that plays his position. I don't understand why people view the QB position so much differently than other positions.

Keep in mind that in the draft you get paid based on where you got drafted, not based upon what position you play. When contracts get extended, the premium positions like QB eat up an inordinate amout of cap space relative to the other positions. That is why the premium money positions get a lot of attention early in the draft.

I am happy that we got great value out of the trade down, but if Romo bombs this year and Quinn turns out to be a franchise QB the trade down will look very poor in retrospect.

I think Dallas was showing the confidence they have in Romo. However when teams draft a QB in the 1st rd they don't do that to sit on the bench. Dallas wants Romo as their starter and placing a high profile QB drafted in the 1st would send a signal to Romo that your not our guy and that is something I don't think Jones or the Cowboys wanted to do. As for the future I have major doubts that Quinn will ever live up to the hype he got in college. He did not perform well last season in big games and I think that hurt him in the eyes of many scouts in the NFL with some claiming they did not think he was even the 2nd best QB in the draft.
 

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I don't think a guy who has scraped and scraped himself from undrafted free agent fighting for a roster spot to starting in four years needs any ultimatums to be motivated.
 

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Clove;1483456 said:
The message was:

You are our man. We had a chance to draft a big-name QB, but we're showing you we trust in you, now prove us right.

The insurance policy is:
2 1st round picks. You screw us, or don't get better, we'll move you out and draft a top-notch QB in the draft next year (if there is one)

You pretty much summed up my original post. ;)
 

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nyc;1483585 said:
Yeah, threaten our QB. Thats how to get him to play well. :laugh2:

Lets tell him we want 5k yards passing on 92% completions percentages with a 51/2 TD to INT ratio. If he does that we won't spend both of our #1s next year replacing him... :p:

Less threat.. more insurance. I don't recall the word "threat" in my original post but don't let me stop ya. ;)

They sent a message both of confidence and reserve insurance.
 

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InmanRoshi;1484376 said:
I don't think a guy who has scraped and scraped himself from undrafted free agent fighting for a roster spot to starting in four years needs any ultimatums to be motivated.

Look at it more as the Cowboys doing their due diligence and making sure they have all bases covered "just in case". It's a win/win IMO. There's no doubt in my mind Romo is going to blow up this year behind an improved line. No doubt whatsoever. ;)
 
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