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[Viper]

Parcells isn’t the same coach he was in New York. There are times he looks totally bewildered on the sidelines. We don’t have an attacking defense, the Indy game is the only one I believe they actually pulled their ears back. I actually believed this was going to be our break-out game. Yet we reverted back to the bend, don’t break philosophy.

What I have seen from Romo does have me excited. I’m not ready to crown him the Next Cowboy QB though. As much as I believe you need to have a premier QB as your field general, having an elite running back is the key to fielding a Superbowl team. I can’t think of one game this year where either or both of our running backs have taken over a game.

The problem with evaluating our players or the scheme they run lies in the trenches. Our losses lie between the lines, the OL and the DL. This is the area that disappoints me the most about Parcells. He knows better. Our lines fail to dominate anyone Sunday after Sunday.

 

[Sarge]

Parcells isn’t the same coach he was in New York. There are times he looks totally bewildered on the sidelines. We don’t have an attacking defense, the Indy game is the only one I believe they actually pulled their ears back. I actually believed this was going to be our break-out game. Yet we reverted back to the bend, don’t break philosophy.

What I have seen from Romo does have me excited. I’m not ready to crown him the Next Cowboy QB though. As much as I believe you need to have a premier QB as your field general, having an elite running back is the key to fielding a Superbowl team. I can’t think of one game this year where either or both of our running backs have taken over a game.

The problem with evaluating our players or the scheme they run lies in the trenches. Our losses lie between the lines, the OL and the DL. This is the area that disappoints me the most about Parcells. He knows better. Our lines fail to dominate anyone Sunday after Sunday.

Couldn't agree more especially about the OL and DL. Pathetic job by BP.

 

[Juke99]

Parcells isn’t the same coach he was in New York. There are times he looks totally bewildered on the sidelines. We don’t have an attacking defense, the Indy game is the only one I believe they actually pulled their ears back. I actually believed this was going to be our break-out game. Yet we reverted back to the bend, don’t break philosophy.

What I have seen from Romo does have me excited. I’m not ready to crown him the Next Cowboy QB though. As much as I believe you need to have a premier QB as your field general, having an elite running back is the key to fielding a Superbowl team. I can’t think of one game this year where either or both of our running backs have taken over a game.

The problem with evaluating our players or the scheme they run lies in the trenches. Our losses lie between the lines, the OL and the DL. This is the area that disappoints me the most about Parcells. He knows better. Our lines fail to dominate anyone Sunday after Sunday.

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[Juke99]

Exactly. The Commander tackling was some of the worst I've ever seen. They had Barber stopped at the line many times and he waited it out and then exploded through for big yards.

BINGO.

And that's a large part of what makes him so good.

 

[Sarge]

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Consider this thread hijacked................

 

[burmafrd]

Barber did not wait it out- he kept pounding and kept his legs going and the skins fell down or quit or whatever.

 

[Juke99]

Barber did not wait it out- he kept pounding and kept his legs going and the skins fell down or quit or whatever.

I dunno. On a few plays, he patiently waited, sat in the middle of the traffic..and then busted it outside of the traffic.

Regardless of how poorly the Skins played on defense, and they did, Barber more often than not comes up big when the Giants need him.

They are going to suck wind without him.

 

[Juke99]

Consider this thread hijacked................

Yes, perhaps Yeager will stop by and post a picture of his vicious killer pooch.

 

[burmafrd]

I watched the whole game and Barber did not wait- he slowed down a little but he never stopped or even came close. It was more him keeping his legs pumping and pushing and the skins failures that gave him the big runs.

 

[Juke99]

I watched the whole game and Barber did not wait- he slowed down a little but he never stopped or even came close. It was more him keeping his legs pumping and pushing and the skins failures that gave him the big runs.

OY...By "wait" I mean he was patient. I'm not suggesting he pulled up a beach chair in the middle of the defensive line, hooked himself up with a glass of ice tea, took a few sips...and took off again.

He is a patient runner. He WAITS for things to develop. If waiting means he churns his legs, then so be it.

Fact of the matter is, put Julius in that same situation, and you think he would have had the same results? No way.

 

[Viper]

I watched the whole game and Barber did not wait- he slowed down a little but he never stopped or even came close. It was more him keeping his legs pumping and pushing and the skins failures that gave him the big runs.

For a running back, slowing down a little is waiting.

 

[Novacek84]

OY...

Fact of the matter is, put Julius in that same situation, and you think he would have had the same results? No way.

You know my first thought after watching Barber last night was "Julius I hope you are watching and learning about how to wait fo rthe holes to develop. He could learn from Tiki."

 

[burmafrd]

Tomato, tomahto. Wait is defined as coming to a stop. Or stopping.
Interestingly, BP said that this season JJ was showing patience. Of course it helps if the O line is actually doing a good job.

 

[burmafrd]

If the skins had been tackling well then Tiki gets nowhere near 200 yds. Maybe 150 at most, probably 125.

 

[rw54]

Great players make the other team look bad. Tiki is a great player. Do we have such a player? Its hard to tell, we play like we are overly medicated. Is it lack of leadership, bad positional coaching, the fact we can't win individual battles up front or a domineering coach who hasn't fixed the above problems? I don't know. I do think that if we have such a player or players now would be a good time to get off the meds and play down hill.

 

[SuspectCorner]

while watching barber race down the field for one of his 3 scores i noticed he was crushing the ball against his left bicep - even though there wasn't a Commander within 10 yards of him.

tiki owes coughlin a debt of gratitude. barber wasn't nearly as imposing until coughlin broke him of his fumble-prone ways. i'll be glad to see the guy retire.

 

[Juke99]

while watching barber race down the field for one of his 3 scores i noticed he was crushing the ball against his left bicep - even though there wasn't a Commander within 10 yards of him.

tiki owes coughlin a debt of gratitude. barber wasn't nearly as imposing until coughlin broke him of his fumble-prone ways. i'll be glad to see the guy retire.

I agree. That's why Barber is a phony.

He's tossed Coughlin under the bus on more than one occasion.

Yet he has, by far, had his best seasons with Coughlin...run the ball more often than ever...and learned how NOT to fumble on every other carry.

 

[burmafrd]

One of the announcers made that point that really TIki has only had 3 great seasons- his last three under Coughlin. Before that the talent was there but he did not use it well- not to mention he fumbled all over the place.

 

[Hostile]

Much as I can't STAND Tiki Barber because I find him to be a gold plated phony...his performance last night, just as he's done in other big games, was outstanding.

The Giants are NOT playing well. They've had a ton of injuries to critical spots, DE, LT, WR...Manning was awful again, as usual.

But last night, it was clear, Barber forced his will on that game. He ran with determination. He's done this kind of thing in big games, for years.

I look at our group of players and don't see anyone who, even somewhat consistently, steps up in a big spot and makes an impact. I understand that Barber is the elite of the elite. But it would be nice, on occasion, to see someone step up.

I'm not sure if it's that we don't have that player OR if we play such a conservative system on both sides of the ball that it restricts the type of player who could be an impact guy IF we just let him loose.

Your thoughts?

I think the Cowboys player most capable of firing up the entire team is Roy Williams. When he makes a big play in a game the entire team gets amped up. I feel he's been rendered invisible for the last 4 weeks and they need to find a way to let him do what he does best which is disrupt timing. Get in the WRs heads. Pick off a pass. Cause a big fumble.

That's what we need.

 

[zeromaster]

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The problem with evaluating our players or the scheme they run lies in the trenches. Our losses lie between the lines, the OL and the DL. This is the area that disappoints me the most about Parcells. He knows better. Our lines fail to dominate anyone Sunday after Sunday.

That may be the biggest mystery: how a coach that prides himself on the power game lets the biggest factor affecting it slip away. When the Aikman-era OL started downhill, the offense gradually followed. The history lesson was sitting right there, but history often gets ignored.

Sure I can understand money is a factor, but look at all the time and money wasted in the process trying to address the glamour positions.