In case you forgot, look at what the Dallas Cowboys Oline used to be....

Yeah, when there was no salary cap the team could sign the best of the best. It does not work that way now.
 
5Stars said:
Yeah, when there was no salary cap the team could sign the best of the best. It does not work that way now.
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Mark Stepnoski - drafted
Larry Allen - drafted
Erik Williams - drafted
Mark Tuinei - udfa
Kevin Gogan - drafted
Nate Newton - free agent when USFL folded.


thats how you build an offensive line, not with high priced guys from outside.
 
5Stars said:
Yeah, when there was no salary cap the team could sign the best of the best. It does not work that way now.
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stop making excuses, most of those guys were drafted.
 
unionjack8 said:
Mark Stepnoski - drafted
Larry Allen - drafted
Erik Williams - drafted
Mark Tuinei - udfa
Kevin Gogan - drafted
Nate Newton - free agent when USFL folded.


thats how you build an offensive line, not with high priced guys from outside.
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This is true, and that is what I think is happening now. Out of what you listed two of them, Tuinei and Newton might have gone elsewhere for more money. If there were no salary cap, do you really believe that Jerry would not go out and get the best players in the NFL because he would pay out the butt for them?

Different time, different place...
 
Zordon said:
stop making excuses, most of those guys were drafted.
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It's not an excuse...it is what it is. If there were no salary cap, I would almost bet my house that Jerry would get the best of the best...but he can't. If you think that is an excuse that might be because you don't remember what the NFL was like without a salary cap.
 
As much as I enjoy watching replays from that era, I just don't see the point in constantly reliving the past. Just wishing things were like the way they were back when, doesn't solve the problems of the present. It just adds to the frustration.
 
5Stars said:
It's not an excuse...it is what it is. If there were no salary cap, I would almost bet my house that Jerry would get the best of the best...but he can't. If you think that is an excuse that might be because you don't remember what the NFL was like without a salary cap.
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What you say does have a lot of merit.

The Cowboys lost Ron Stone, who turned out to be a very good player because of the cap.

In addition Step was lost due to the cap as was Gogan.
 
Great blocking but ES had something special. His vision is something you just don't see today. It's like he saw it happen before it happened. But I think this team is on its way to building a very solid line with Smith Leary Fred and from all reports Free is having a very solid camp. So 4 out of 5 spots could have some really good play. I think if the left side plays well it will really open up the play action pass and allow Fred to help out the RG. So if Bern can play average I think we will be average to good on the line this year
 
Hopefully things are starting to look up: Three of the starting five this season are going to be recently drafted/homegrown linemen; Smith, Fredbeard and Leary.
 
MichaelWinicki said:
What you say does have a lot of merit.

The Cowboys lost Ron Stone, who turned out to be a very good player because of the cap.

In addition Step was lost due to the cap as was Gogan.
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The 49'er lost Deion Sanders because Deion said..."boff" when Jerry asked how much money did he want 10 million, 20 million?

All teams have the same advantage now because of the salary cap. If Dez ever becomes a free agent, the Giants cannot offer him more money that the Cowboys can or should. Gas was about $1.53 per gallon at that time.
 
5Stars said:
It's not an excuse...it is what it is. If there were no salary cap, I would almost bet my house that Jerry would get the best of the best...but he can't. If you think that is an excuse that might be because you don't remember what the NFL was like without a salary cap.
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Yeah but your point was that "it does not work like that way now" b/c Jerry bought that line and can't do that now, when in fact they weren't bought therefore it CAN be done now.
 
Ultimategamer5567 said:
Hopefully things are starting to look up: Three of the starting five this season are going to be recently drafted/homegrown linemen; Smith, Fredbeard and Leary.
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Good point. We're one draft (that is dedicated to the oline) away from having another good line IMO.
 
Zordon said:
Yeah but your point was that "it does not work like that way now" b/c Jerry bought that line and can't do that now, when in fact they weren't bought therefore it CAN be done now.
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And it's looking like it is happening now. That's my point. The oline is not being overlooked,

Jerry is buying the oline and all the other players and coaches. And IMO...he is letting the Coach do his thing, while he does his.

This coming offensive line might surprise you this coming season.
 
MichaelWinicki said:
What you say does have a lot of merit.

The Cowboys lost Ron Stone, who turned out to be a very good player because of the cap.

In addition Step was lost due to the cap as was Gogan.
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but not before they contributed in a huge way.
 
The days when the Cowboys were clearly superior to the Eagles and Giants! *Sigh*
 
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