Interesting Collins evaluation

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Well heck, we could say the same about a lot of guys. Anyone trust Zeke? Gregory? DLAW? Kelvin Joseph? Character, dedication to football, and a work ethic have never been high priority in Dallas in the Jones GM era. We will sign ANYBODY if Jerry thinks they run fast.

I thought Zeke looked good before he got hurt. Gregory's issue was weed...and the NFL eliminated that as an obstacle. It's not like he is Aldon Smith. Now Zeke is probably just 75% of the best version of himself. And Gregory looks like his ceiling is 8 sacks. So the organization has to decide if either guys is worth it.

 

[Jimbo123]

If we can trade him trade him. If we can't let him go.

He won't be as good 3 years from now. We need to start building this team to be good in 3 years when Dak's contract is up.

In the 3 years we need to have a solid foundation for a real QB to take over. These next 3 years should be devoted to that process.

Do you really think Jerry is thinking 3 years down the road? He wants to win now.

 

[Sydla]

I thought Zeke looked good before he got hurt. Gregory's issue was weed...and the NFL eliminated that as an obstacle. It's not like he is Aldon Smith. Now Zeke is probably just 75% of the best version of himself. And Gregory looks like his ceiling is 8 sacks. So the organization has to decide if either guys is worth it.

Zeke looked "good" before the injury is bizarre to me. I mean he looked competent but he still wasn't quick or as explosive as he once was and when you are starting at a 8 figure cap hit for a TB next year, that's not good.

But the beauty of all of this is Jerry screwed the organization with that contract. You can't cut him now most likely. And his cap hit next year is ridiculous so that might force them to restructure which just pushes the cap charges even further into the future when Elliott will likely be worse than he is now.

Jerry and his obsession with shiny toys.

 

[atlantacowboy]

I thought Zeke looked good before he got hurt. Gregory's issue was weed...and the NFL eliminated that as an obstacle. It's not like he is Aldon Smith. Now Zeke is probably just 75% of the best version of himself. And Gregory looks like his ceiling is 8 sacks. So the organization has to decide if either guys is worth it.

Zeke is a partier. He hasn't looked good on a consistent basis since he held out during training camp in Cabo. He played with a partially torn PCL b/c he wanted that 1k yard season, and nobody on the coaching staff had the balls to tell him no.

Weed may not be banned anymore, but it definetley isn't a performance enhancer. Gregory played like he was stoned on sunday.

 

[Nexx]

once again, the whole narrative that the oline is horrible is incorrect. just like every other oline in football they arent perfect, meaning they have one or two players who are average maybe below average some like the Bengals have holes just about everywhere on the oline. thats todays NFL folks. uneducated football fans will immediately blame the oline when the QB fails and running game isnt going great. when i see the QB hold the ball way too long, have zero pocket awareness and literally spin, and step into sacks tells me that it isnt the oline. when i see the backup running dominate when he plays but fails to get the playtime, i dont blame the oline for the running game.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Collins didn't give up the sack that Bosa got - it was on Martin for not picking up a twist.

Either way. Collins has played bad in several games. And had Bosa played in that game more than 1 QTR I am sure he would have had a much harder time.

 

[BleedSilverandBlue]

Excellent in a run game that produced less than 50 yards? OK. I guess excellence is a bit different than I remember.

A lineman can be dominant but your run game can still be terrible if a few other blocks are missed by other players. It is a team game after all you know.

 

[gimmesix]

So why would you move him to G? Right tackle is a much harder position to fill. In terms of his contract, he's one of the best bargains in the league.

I'd move him to guard because I believe Steele is a solid right tackle and our weakness is in the middle. If Collins can make left guard a strength while Steele isn't much of a drop-off at right tackle, then we're better off than with a slightly better RT in Collins and a weak LG in McGovern.

 

[Sydla]

He’s the lone bright spot but even he didn’t play as well as in past years. Maybe it’s because he didn’t have much help.

He played well enough to get an All Pro mention and he graded out as one of the best OGs in football.

Your theory is dying here. Colins also played pretty well but the problems were that the interior OL with the C and OG really struggled and Smith missing games also didn't help. You can't have a weakness at both C and LG and expect to have a consistent OL.

 

[Doomsday]

In what universe are 3 pressures and 2 penalties a dominant performance?

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Zeke looked "good" before the injury is bizarre to me. I mean he looked competent but he still wasn't quick or as explosive as he once was and when you are starting at a 8 figure cap hit for a TB next year, that's not good.

But the beauty of all of this is Jerry screwed the organization with that contract. You can't cut him now most likely. And his cap hit next year is ridiculous so that might force them to restructure which just pushes the cap charges even further into the future when Elliott will likely be worse than he is now.

Jerry and his obsession with shiny toys.

Blame Jason Garret for the Zeke contract. Zeke and his agent saw what they did to DeMarco Murray and they were NOT going to let that happen to them. I applaud them for that. Instead of Garrett designing a modern offense that got people in space. He coached "tough man" football. Which shortened peoples careers. It was run Zeke on 1st. Run Zeke on 2nd. Throw it to him on 3rd or have him block! Besides the Jimmy Johnson debacle...staying in bed with Garrett for as long as Jerry did is his 2nd biggest mistake as an owner/GM (and I use the term GM loosely.)

Never understood why that always said Garrett was the last man to leave the building every night. What EXACTLY was he doing? We had the reputation of being the easiest team to prepare for!

 

[BourbonBalz]

He played well enough to get an All Pro mention and he graded out as one of the best OGs in football.

Your theory is dying here. Colins also played pretty well but the problems were that the interior OL with the C and OG really struggled and Smith missing games also didn't help. You can't have a weakness at both C and LG and expect to have a consistent OL.

LOL. That’s pretty much my point. The line overall was bad.

 

[AKATheRake]

Draft a LG dont mess with a good player at important position [RT]
Having a good back up tackle is highly desirable

I got no problem drafting one if you know he’s going to be a starter with your draft pick. This is the draft to do it because its not OT deep, but OL deep.

Only problem is, where do we get our LB and DE we’re going to need if we stay in a 4-3?

LVE we used a1st and Gregory a 2nd. I don’t think we should sign either but to go sign another in FA to start won’t be much cheaper. This drafts deepest position maybe DE/Edge.

We’re going to get a lot of comp picks letting guys like 2 we mentioned walk. But those could be anything from 3rd round down. Those guys start out as your depth and then hopefully develop into key players down the road.

We’re going to need starters on both lines and at LB. Doubt we resign Neal and Cox will be coming off an injury. Guifford isn’t even under contract anymore. We were interested in Von Miller but didn’t want to give up the 2nd for him. Could be a message we were looking to go 3-4. Don’t need DE’s and could be moving on from DLaw? You need the other outside pass rushing LB to go with Parsons and an ILB. Easier to find.

So Parsons and Cox are the only LBs that were on the 53 that are still under contract.

Like you said, we need a Center still. We got to use what we have.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Trades are still possibilities and in the first rounds of drafts, could be relevant.

The team has to decide what their projections here and now are...so, not so fast here.

I'm not sure why we would need to be working with his agent. He's under contract. If we trade him, we trade him.

 

[FVSTONE]

Prescot held the ball too long all day long which helped the 9er D-Line................

 

[Gameover]

Soft coordinator, soft results

You play like you practice

No surprise the run blocking has declined since boy wonder took over the play calling duties. In fact, if I were JJ, I would’ve marched down to KM office and kicked his behind in 2019! As usual, the Cowboys lost when they ‘won’ the bidding war w Boise State to maintain KM services.

At least Linehan called plays (and coached) to your strength. Moore should be home playing PS5 w the kiddies

 

[CCBoy]

I'm not sure why we would need to be working with his agent. He's under contract. If we trade him, we trade him.

Oh, you are right...I was totally stupid...

 

[visionary]

Get me a real OL coach and upgrade at OC and LOG

 

[MajesticRey]

Collins isn’t the biggest liability, LG and C are. We NEED to draft for either of those 2 spots with our 1st or 2nd round pick.

 

[Acceptablename]

I got no problem drafting one if you know he’s going to be a starter with your draft pick. This is the draft to do it because its not OT deep, but OL deep.

Only problem is, where do we get our LB and DE we’re going to need if we stay in a 4-3?

LVE we used a1st and Gregory a 2nd. I don’t think we should sign either but to go sign another in FA to start won’t be much cheaper. This drafts deepest position maybe DE/Edge.

We’re going to get a lot of comp picks letting guys like 2 we mentioned walk. But those could be anything from 3rd round down. Those guys start out as your depth and then hopefully develop into key players down the road.

We’re going to need starters on both lines and at LB. Doubt we resign Neal and Cox will be coming off an injury. Guifford isn’t even under contract anymore. We were interested in Von Miller but didn’t want to give up the 2nd for him. Could be a message we were looking to go 3-4. Don’t need DE’s and could be moving on from DLaw? You need the other outside pass rushing LB to go with Parsons and an ILB. Easier to find.

So Parsons and Cox are the only LBs that were on the 53 that are still under contract.

Like you said, we need a Center still. We got to use what we have.

Draft defense after we need LB, whatever were losing in FA.