Interesting Dak statistic (turnover-worthy play rate)

[FVSTONE]

Dallas Cowboys

Dak Prescott leads all quarterbacks in turnover-worthy play rate (min. 100 attempts)

Per PFF, Prescott has committed a turnover-worthy play on 4.9 percent of his dropbacks. His career rate is three percent. Using an attempts threshold of 50 dropbacks Prescott to fourth in the rankings and somehow makes things look worse for him. The only players with more dangerous plays in that sample are Spencer Rattler, Will Levis, and Tyler Huntley.

https://www.nbcsports.com/fantasy/f...stats-for-week-8-brock-bowers-chasing-history

THE MOST OVERPAID, OVER HYPED and LESS THAN MEDIOCRE QB IN THE NFL!

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

"Turnover worthy". Now that's a new term I've never heard of before.

Not new. PFF has been tracking it for years. Perfect example:

 

[blueblood70]

Lol. Anything to avoid holding the 60 million dollar man accountable. IRRATIONAL DAK FAN STATUS NOTED!!! Lol

Dak had the things you listed above last year. A 1000 yard rusher in Tony Pollard. Single season franchise record setting WR. A defense that was at the top of the league in QB pressures and turnovers.

What did Dak do with it? The same thing he has done 5 out of the 7 times he has reached the postseason: he has played poorly.

And no— that doesn’t absolve everyone else that also played poorly in those games. But there is a reason QBs get paid disproportionately to every other position in football: they directly affect the outcome of games more.

So if Dak gets the bag, he deserves the accountability that comes with it. And bottom line: he has not played well enough in big moments for this team. And sometimes he has flat out played poorly at the worst times.

If you don’t want to deal with that— then go ahead and put your head in the sand. There are 9 years of data points to back up what I am saying.

And for the record— I hope he bucks the trend and leads this team to. SB. I hope he plays lights out and dominates starting this Sunday. I just can’t bring myself to put lipstick on the pig and try to explain away his inability to be a difference maker (thus far) in the playoffs for this franchise— despite his being paid to do so.

TL DR. LOL GET OVE IT NO CONTEXT = hater alerts. No qb can succeed regularly and excel in this mess I already described. Next rediculous ranking anylitic or stat without reality via context, you need shot down?

 

[pansophy]

The key stat mentioned is that his career rate is 3%, which should indicate to everyone that the players around him aren't as good as previous years and therefore more plays are at risk. If anyone wants to put a 'cause' on Dak a case could be made that its his salary that prohibits fielding a better team around him, but it doesn't follow that somehow now he is just a dummy after an MVP performance last year.

 

[SpaceCowboy99]

Zero run game, weak pass protection, only 1 real weapon on O.

Every single QB needs a decent supporting cast around him.

Even the great Mahomes has 6 TD, 8 INT this season.

"But Mahomes is 6-0!", says the same people who always remind us that "wins aren't a QB stat."

The difference is Mahomes doesn't have those interceptions during crunch time. Dak does. Mahomes makes up for his interceptions by being clutch and winning during crunch time. Dak just slides down inbounds with no time left and can't get the next play off which would have been a game winning field goal. Our QB, thinks clutch is something inside a car.

 

[Mikexike]

Just another useless stats/data whatever you wanna call it, Carry on people.

You don't need stats to see the deficiency of this team if you actually watch the games.

 

[Hawkeye19]

TL DR. LOL GET OVE IT NO CONTEXT = hater alerts. No qb can succeed regularly and excel in this mess I already described. Next rediculous ranking anylitic or stat without reality via context, you need shot down?

Lol you haven’t shot anything down. Just more of the same exact excuses that fans like you make for Dak.

For the last 9 years. And counting.

 

[WillieBeamen]

The key stat mentioned is that his career rate is 3%, which should indicate to everyone that the players around him aren't as good as previous years and therefore more plays are at risk. If anyone wants to put a 'cause' on Dak a case could be made that its his salary that prohibits fielding a better team around him, but it doesn't follow that somehow now he is just a dummy after an MVP performance last year.

Nope

 

[Cowboys5217]

The key stat mentioned is that his career rate is 3%, which should indicate to everyone that the players around him aren't as good as previous years and therefore more plays are at risk. If anyone wants to put a 'cause' on Dak a case could be made that its his salary that prohibits fielding a better team around him, but it doesn't follow that somehow now he is just a dummy after an MVP performance last year.

LOL at "MVP" performance.

 

[Nav22]

The difference is Mahomes doesn't have those interceptions during crunch time. Dak does. Mahomes makes up for his interceptions by being clutch and winning during crunch time. Dak just slides down inbounds with no time left and can't get the next play off which would have been a game winning field goal. Our QB, thinks clutch is something inside a car.

Right, Mahomes is better than Dak.

Still doesn't negate one word I said.

And Dak "made up for his INTs" vs Pittsburgh, did he not? Amazing what can happen when you have a defense that keeps you in games.

 

[pansophy]

LOL at "MVP" performance.

I mean you can disagree but he got an MVP and obviously put up big numbers. When someone shows they can do it that is very different than a player that has never done it. A case can be made that Dak's play declines faster than other top tier QBs when the play around him declines, but that still points at lessor talent on the roster than previous years.

 

[DallasInDC]

Dallas Cowboys

Dak Prescott leads all quarterbacks in turnover-worthy play rate (min. 100 attempts)

Per PFF, Prescott has committed a turnover-worthy play on 4.9 percent of his dropbacks. His career rate is three percent. Using an attempts threshold of 50 dropbacks Prescott to fourth in the rankings and somehow makes things look worse for him. The only players with more dangerous plays in that sample are Spencer Rattler, Will Levis, and Tyler Huntley.

https://www.nbcsports.com/fantasy/f...stats-for-week-8-brock-bowers-chasing-history

Some of this is purely on Dak and some of this is on lowest WR separation, QB pressure rates, poor routes, poor play design, no running game/getting behind early that results in having to force plays to get back into the game. Dak needs to clean his ish up, but it is not as straightforward as its all of his fault.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Now do Mahomes.

Mahomes has 7 TWPs which is 3.0% of his passes. Of the 28 passers with enough throws to qualify Dak is the 3rd highest, Mahomes is 15th.

 

[WillieBeamen]

I mean you can disagree but he got an MVP and obviously put up big numbers. When someone shows they can do it that is very different than a player that has never done it. A case can be made that Dak's play declines faster than other top tier QBs when the play around him declines, but that still points at lessor talent on the roster than previous years.

When was this?

 

[blueblood70]

Mahomes has 7 TWPs which is 3.0% of his passes. Of the 28 passers with enough throws to qualify Dak is the 3rd highest, Mahomes is 15th.

THE Dumbest analytic every tried!!!!!

turnover-worthy play rate=dumb​

he's has more INTS than Tds or even right hes lighting it up!!! 6-8; has better offense ie run game OL and play caller. Now he gets Hopkins.

 

[G2]

Prescott is the only player on the team.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

THE Dumbest analytic every tried!!!!!

turnover-worthy play rate=dumb​

hes has more INTS than Tds or even right hes lighting it up!!!

How do you type this and then hit send? It isn't even English.

Like how is someone supposed to respond to this gibberish? lol

 

[5Stars]

Now do Mahomes. LMAO. Having 2 tackles not play well, No run game, down 14 points at blink over bad D, lack of separation by wrs or they re going rogue ie not running the Calle drifted and go off scripts, ask Aikman. Add in MM playcalls


THAT MAKES THIS ENTIRE THREAD CRINGEWROTHY.

HATER STAUS NOTED..REDC!!!!!!!

Now DEFLECT!!

 

[5Stars]

TL DR. LOL GET OVE IT NO CONTEXT = hater alerts. No qb can succeed regularly and excel in this mess I already described. Next rediculous ranking anylitic or stat without reality via context, you need shot down?

To long, did not read? What about your freaking Novels? You think a lot of posters read yours? lmao

 

[thunderpimp91]

THE Dumbest analytic every tried!!!!!

turnover-worthy play rate=dumb​

he's has more INTS than Tds or even right hes lighting it up!!! 6-8; has better offense ie run game OL and play caller. Now he gets Hopkins.

I mean its certainly not perfect as there is some subjectivity to it, but its still probably a better stat for individual performance than actual turnovers. I mean how often does an INT happen because of a tipped ball, receiver slipped, etc. when a QB delivers a good pass?

I have no issue saying that Dak is a good QB. I have no issue saying that Dak needs more help. It's also fair to say that Dak needs improve his game as well. The advanced metrics make up pretty good arguments for both sides of the Dak debate, which means the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.