Interesting stats on Romo in different situations by Profootball focus

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You do have to get the defenders in the middle of the field to bite or it doesn't work.

Obviously down and distance matter but that is same for all QBs not just Romo. Fact that he is one of the best QBs using it yet his attempt is the lowest tells me how clueless JG is when it comes to play selection.
 

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Not at all, the truth is usually funny... but not as funny as you cherry picking when one can easily just change the context to third and 10+ and see that suddenly your hero Brady is worse than Romo. It's telling what a fake fan troll will gravitate towards to first though when trying to push their redundant agenda.

Amazing how sad so e these guys are....I mean, you basically just dumped all over him by just applying common sense.

The hate from him and two or three other hater circle j crew is appalling.
 

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Thank you.
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Over the last 3 seasons, the Cowboys are 2-4 against top-5 defenses (measured either by points or yards).

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Boom..another false claim destroyed.

I bet very few teams have done that well....but that will be ignored by those who are locked in on negatives.
 

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Obviously down and distance matter but that is same for all QBs not just Romo. Fact that he is one of the best QBs using it yet his attempt is the lowest tells me how clueless JG is when it comes to play selection.

If you say so. I do not know enough in order to judge his play calling. I don't even know that he was calling plays last year.

The team from top to bottom needs to execute better. I think interior pass protection was our biggest flaw on offense last year as it gave Romo the yips and put him out to pasture by the end.

I don't know but I could see the interior line problems contributing to a lack of faith in executing those types of plays. Even when
 

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Am I the only one in the universe who thinks he will vomit the next time someone number crunches on Tony Romo? The only number I'm concerned with is more wins than losses. Save me "its a team game..blah...blah...blah." He has had some bad teams to work with, he has also had some good teams to work with. In the words of the old Nike advertisements.... just do it.

And as far as I'm concerned, as happy as I am with what Jason Garrett represents in terms of his philosophy of building a team, discipline, character, etc.... I put him in the same boat. Its time to win fellas, plain and simple.
 

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Anything PFF says I take with a LARGE grain of salt.

They're not a complete waste of time and if you generalize about the entire league such as comparing QB numbers it roughly averages out. Some stuff like sacks etc are pretty subjective IMO.
 

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No need to call people names please.

Stats are helpful to support what we see and at times what we don't. They are necessary but not a substitute for looking at the film. It takes a lot of experience to sail an ocean. It's easier if you have charts and a compass.
 

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Am I the only one in the universe who thinks he will vomit the next time someone number crunches on Tony Romo? The only number I'm concerned with is more wins than losses. Save me "its a team game..blah...blah...blah." He has had some bad teams to work with, he has also had some good teams to work with. In the words of the old Nike advertisements.... just do it.

And as far as I'm concerned, as happy as I am with what Jason Garrett represents in terms of his philosophy of building a team, discipline, character, etc.... I put him in the same boat. Its time to win fellas, plain and simple.

You're certainly not alone. That doesn't mean your simplistic judgement makes a lot of logical sense, though. There's simply too much evidence that suggests this is, after all, a team game.

Jason Garrett's another matter since he is in fact responsible for the entire team.
 
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You're certainly not alone. That doesn't mean your simplistic judgement makes a lot of logical sense, though. There's simply too much evidence that suggests this is, after all, a team game.

Jason Garrett's another matter since he is in fact responsible for the entire team.

There is simple and there is simplistic. You may be correct. My view may be simplistic. Then again, it may be a simple statement that reflects the truth. After all, he has now had opportunities in a VARIETY of situations. We have 1 playoff win to show for it.
 

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Its crazy how this will turn into the exact same arguments we have in all the Romo threads.

Someone starts thread showing certain stat to analyze for flaws in our team or game plans. Another poster enters thread says "my favo stat is wins and losses" without providing any context to said wins and losses and how they are formed and the rest is history. Rinse. Repeat.

Whatever, I enjoy it. It's why we keep coming back, right?
 

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No need to call people names please.

Stats are helpful to support what we see and at times what we don't. They are necessary but not a substitute for looking at the film. It takes a lot of experience to sail an ocean. It's easier if you have charts and a compass.

To further your analogy, if the charts were poorly drawn by someone lacking competance, are based on hearsay or incomplete information, or are a complete fabrication, they go from being an aid to navigation to actually endangering you as you sail.
 

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the pressure stat is huge. fix the o-line, you fix tony.

Fixing an OL certainly help every QB. Only Cowboys fans, and those who don't understand football, would suggest a QB with 31 TDs and only 10 INTs in 15 games, who is the 5th highest rated passer in NFL history, needs "fixing". Romo has done great job throughout his career regardless of the quality of his OL, but I am looking forward to watching him with, what should be, a very good OL this year.
 

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Its crazy how this will turn into the exact same arguments we have in all the Romo threads.

Someone starts thread showing certain stat to analyze for flaws in our team or game plans. Another poster enters thread says "my favo stat is wins and losses" without providing any context to said wins and losses and how they are formed and the rest is history. Rinse. Repeat.

Whatever, I enjoy it. It's why we keep coming back, right?

I agree with you. It is the same cycle. The larger question is what drives the cycle? I think some people are honest in their view that statistics vindicate Romo against a lot of his critics, I think others are just Romo fans looking for the justifications they want. I think some people are honest in their view (my view) that the whole stats crunching thing is a way to obscure a much more simple, and in the end, accurate way to judge the thing. Others just hate Romo and look to do away with anything that might compliment him.
 

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To further your analogy, if the charts were poorly drawn by someone lacking competance, are based on hearsay or incomplete information, or are a complete fabrication, they go from being an aid to navigation to actually endangering you as you sail.

But that's not the case. Drawing conclusions from stats is always problematic whether more or less. Of course GIGO but I don't see the numbers as garbage.
 

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But that's not the case. Drawing conclusions from stats is always problematic whether more or less. Of course GIGO but I don't see the numbers as garbage.

Numbers on things easily calculated or agreed upon, yes. The analysis afterword, maybe less so. Haven't checked the way they do those stats, so that base may be just fine.

I have just had experiance with bad navigation charts.... ;)
 

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Numbers on things easily calculated or agreed upon, yes. The analysis afterword, maybe less so. Haven't checked the way they do those stats, so that base may be just fine.

I have just had experiance with bad navigation charts.... ;)

Yes indeed. And changing ones, too. I ran aground once because of a sandbar that was supposed to be several feet of sea.
 

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Fixing an OL certainly help every QB. Only Cowboys fans, and those who don't understand football, would suggest a QB with 31 TDs and only 10 INTs in 15 games, who is the 5th highest rated passer in NFL history, needs "fixing". Romo has done great job throughout his career regardless of the quality of his OL, but I am looking forward to watching him with, what should be, a very good OL this year.

Imagine Romo with extra time to look for a reciever. His numbers may be even better this year.
 
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