Interesting stats on Romo in different situations by Profootball focus

khiladi

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the pressure stat is huge. fix the o-line, you fix tony.

Dropping back 9+ yards should technically give you lots of time...

Apparently Romo did well when dropping back less yardage, the implication most likely being we were better when getting the ball out quickly. Yet, we are dropping back a hell of a lot more among the highest in the league. So essentially, we rely a lot on long-developing passing plays, when we shouldn't and our WRs, with our weak passing routes aren't getting open.

The story of Garrett's career here.
 

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He is one of the best passers when using play action yet he has fewest play action attempts for starting QBs past few years. . I say it's definitely play calling.

And before you say "..you have to run well for play action to work", that's not true.

You may not have to run well for play action to work, but you have to run some for it to work. If I know you have no desire to run I am telling my D to ignore play action and assume pass every play.
 

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3rd and 8-10 yds:
Tony 38% comp. rate
Brady 56% comp. rate
Stafford 50% comp rate.
Mind you Tony had good protection and some of the best big men in the game to throw to.

Sorry but Leary Fred and Bernadeau missed stunt after stunt block after block even there at the end when people had busted out the anointing oil for the unit. Romo wasn't magically placed on IR by the end.

The OL got the reputation it did as improved due to run blocking. Pass protection saw Romo with the yips, on the turf, and throwing the ball away at a sniff of pressure. Fred would get caught off balance and end up on the ground. The two guards only recognized line games about half the time.
 

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Sorry but Leary Fred and Bernadeau missed stunt after stunt block after block even there at the end when people had busted out the anointing oil for the unit. Romo wasn't magically placed on IR by the end.

The OL got the reputation it did as improved due to run blocking. Pass protection saw Romo with the yips, on the turf, and throwing the ball away at a sniff of pressure. Fred would get caught off balance and end up on the ground. The two guards only recognized line games about half the time.

Sorry you have to make excuses, year after year. The OL really? Got next years lined up yet?
 

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Sorry you have to make excuses, year after year. The OL really? Got next years lined up yet?

Sounded a whole lot more like a logical and thought out post to me. If what he posted isn't true make counter points. Your post is light years away from addressing what he actually posted. The default "sorry more excuses for Tony" post haters continue to liter this place with wore out a long time ago. If they truly were cooked up stats explain or show us why.
 

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Sorry you have to make excuses, year after year. The OL really? Got next years lined up yet?

You are the one that thinks in terms of excuses blame and the like. I just want to understand what actually happened.

Now how do you think that Romo ended up on injured reserve?
 

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Sounded a whole lot more like a logical and thought out post to me. If what he posted isn't true make counter points. Your post is light years away from addressing what he actually posted. The default "sorry more excuses for Tony" post haters continue to liter this place with wore out a long time ago. If they truly were cooked up stats explain or show us why.

Everybody who knows anything about football knows the OL was not a issue last year. Surely you know better than that. A day will come when everyone will realize Tony has been as much of the problem as the solution for the past three years. Every QB who has filled in for him in the past 3 years has run the offense much more smoother than Tony, it was obvious with Kitna, and even Orton, with no reps for 2 years, and 2 days to prepare, looked far better than Tony. The ball was out quicker and to the primary receiver much more often, those same receivers were open for Tony, but he would pull the ball down and wait for something short and horizontal to open up. Last year he'd try to throw those primary routes, this year he didn't hence the 10 ints. It's great to throw short passes, until the defense starts to challenge you, them you have to respond. Linehan has already stated we have to throw the ball down the field more this year, if he sees it, I hope the rest of you can follow.

The clock is ticking, Tony may have the most talented offense in the NFL to work with, results not excuses this year.
 

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Every QB who has filled in for him in the past 3 years has run the offense much more smoother than Tony, it was obvious with Kitna, and even Orton, with no reps for 2 years, and 2 days to prepare, looked far better than Tony.

It's hilarious the things that people say on this board. Sometimes no commentary is even necessary. Bask in the hilarity.
 

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Kitna threw like 12 INTs and fumbled 6 times in his 8 starts... Talk about not protecting the football.
 

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Especially when you have no rebuff of value. So bask away.

My rebuff is that I watched the games with a "reality" filter and not the "fantasy" filter you did. Are you really going to sit there with a straight face and pretend that you would be singing Romo's praises if he turned in that effort that Orton did? You get down on your knees and cry every night that it wasn't Romo who threw that interception. It would have made your misbegotten life complete. Please stop embarrassing yourself with the Orton praise.
 

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Kitna threw like 12 INTs and fumbled 6 times in his 8 starts... Talk about not protecting the football.
My rebuff is that I watched the games with a "reality" filter and not the "fantasy" filter you did. Are you really going to sit there with a straight face and pretend that you would be singing Romo's praises if he turned in that effort that Orton did? You get down on your knees and cry every night that it wasn't Romo who threw that interception. It would have made your misbegotten life complete. Please stop embarrassing yourself with the Orton praise.
" That interception" LOL how many "that interceptions" has Tony thrown. Next.........
 

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I think even fans of Romo (like me) could see last year that his deep-throwing ability was off. It appeared to me that he altered his throwing motion slightly to compensate for the back issue.

Hopefully, he'll be able to put his whole body back into his throws as I do disagree with you on his long-ball ability. (I do think there are some deep throws he does better than others.)

There are plenty of articles out there to show his accuracy but I'll just paste this from his 2011 stats:

If u remember in 2012 when Garret still was the Playcaller, justified less passes down the field because of the bad play of the OL, less time to allow long routes to develop, so last year a lot of dink and dunk passes, hopefully with the OL in better hands they will go back to more play action and more down the field passes!
 

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Nobody cooks them son, Tony delivers them.

He sure does. Here's the list of active QB rankings. #4 is pretty good.

Rank Player (age), + - HOFer, Bold - Active Rate Years Teams
1. Aaron Rodgers (31) 104.9 2005-2013 gnb
2. Peyton Manning (38) 97.2 1998-2013 2TM
3. Philip Rivers (33) 96.0 2004-2013 sdg
4. Tony Romo (34) 95.8 2004-2013 dal
5. Tom Brady (37) 95.7 2000-2013 nwe
6. Drew Brees (35) 95.3 2001-2013 2TM
7. Ben Roethlisberger (32) 92.6 2004-2013 pit
8. Matt Ryan (29) 90.6 2008-2013 atl
9. Matt Schaub (33) 89.8 2004-2013 2TM
10. Carson Palmer (35) 85.9 2004-2013 3TM
11. David Garrard (36) 85.8 2002-2013 2TM
12. Andy Dalton (27) 85.7 2011-2013 cin
13. Jay Cutler (31) 84.6 2006-2013 2TM
14. Joe Flacco (29) 83.7 2008-2013 rav
15. Matthew Stafford (26) 83.1 2009-2013 det
16. Matt Hasselbeck (39) 82.1 1999-2013 4TM
17. Jason Campbell (33) 81.8 2006-2013 4TM
18. Eli Manning (33) 81.2 2004-2013 nyg
19. Alex Smith (30) 81.0 2005-2013 2TM
20. Michael Vick (34) 80.9 2001-2013 2TM
21. Matt Cassel (32) 80.5 2005-2013 3TM
22. Kyle Orton (32) 79.9 2005-2013 4TM
23. Sam Bradford (27) 79.3 2010-2013 ram
24. Josh Freeman (26) 77.8 2009-2013 2TM
25. Ryan Fitzpatrick (32) 77.5 2005-2013 4TM
26. Jon Kitna (42) 77.4 1997-2013 4TM
27. Chad Henne (29) 75.3 2008-2013 2TM
28. Mark Sanchez (28) 71.7 2009-2013 nyj
29. Rex Grossman (34) 71.4 2003-2013 3TM
 

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No its not and its especially not hard to argue against subjective categorization like they are known for. The numbers represents something. That does not mean it is always something meaningful and they do not check to make sure it is meaningful.

It's not hard to argue stats...UNLESS it's qb rating right??
 

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Every QB who has filled in for him in the past 3 years has run the offense much more smoother than Tony, it was obvious with Kitna, and even Orton, with no reps for 2 years, and 2 days to prepare, looked far better than Tony. The ball was out quicker and to the primary receiver much more often, those same receivers were open for Tony, but he would pull the ball down and wait for something short and horizontal to open up. Last year he'd try to throw those primary routes, this year he didn't hence the 10 ints. It's great to throw short passes, until the defense starts to challenge you, them you have to respond. Linehan has already stated we have to throw the ball down the field more this year, if he sees it, I hope the rest of you can follow.
This "evaluation" is all over the place.

Orton and Kitna were getting the ball out faster, but Romo was throwing the shorter passes? Come on.
 
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