Interesting talk on "Talkin' Cowboys" about Flozell Adams

[theogt]

Jerry's continual comments this offseason about how he can't keep throwing money into the OL, along with the drafting of two offensive tackles rather high in the draft, along with comments that part of the Leonard Davis signing was to provide a contingency plan at LT .... to me, all signs point towards the Cowboys not really putting any real effort or money into retaining Flo, and I think they've already earmarked that money to allocate elsewhere.

Jerry also said that if Flo performs like they think he should he's giving him a contract.

It's the Law of Jerry -- for every Jerry quote, there's an equal and opposite Jerry quote.

Fourth rounders don't have to pan out. If after 2 years, they're not good enough, you cut 'em and don't think twice. We're not that invested in Free or Marten. They're insurance.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I don't see trying to trade a 35 year old with a big contract as a viable option.

Sign him to a reasonable contract.

Don't ask for much in return when putting him on the trading block.

 

[AbeBeta]

Sign him to a reasonable contract.

Don't ask for much in return when putting him on the trading block.

Whatever the contract, it will involve a relatively large SB -- you lose a ton of cash trading a player a year into that sort of deal. Just bad business.

 

[david smith]

jake long solves this problem

 

[theogt]

jake long solves this problem

Blech. Top 5 pick on a lineman is such a waste.

 

[dallasfan]

Blech. Top 5 pick on a lineman is such a waste.

The Rams and Ravens disagree

 

[justbob]

Flo will be re-signed......bank it.

He is is lazy and can't handle speed rushers. Why give him a contract that
will encourage him to play the way he has. He has always had the physicals
tools to be great --and he has never came close----send him down the road

 

[Hailmary]

jake long solves this problem

I agree 100%. We finally (or potentially) have the chance to draft a stud to anchor the line for the next 10yrs. To me, Jake Long (or whoever turns out to be the top LT prospect in the draft) is a no brainer.

Problem is, when was the last time Jerry went OL in the first?

My dream draft would be for Cleveland's pick to be a top 5 pick, us trading down a few spots and still landing a franchise OLT while picking up a 2nd and packaging that 2nd and our own first to move up to take Slaton.

Flo can take his false starts elsewhere and stall others' drives all he wants.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Problem is, when was the last time Jerry went OL in the first?

I didn't know we were allowed to take any OFFENSIVE players in the first any more.

 

[Hailmary]

I didn't know we were allowed to take any OFFENSIVE players in the first any more.

Closest we came was LaFleur.

 

[Chuck 54]

If Adams has a great year, there will be even less chance of our resigning him than if he had an average year. The market overpays...we have put at least 3young OT's on the roster who aren't starting this year because we will never be willing to overpay for Flozell Adams again. If he has a great year, he won't be willing to sign a 3 year deal unless it has an incredible signing bonus.

This will be Flo's last year in Dallas, imo, unless he has a bad year and no one else is interested in giving him big money...they we might sign him to a reasonable, non-guaranteed deal in order to let him compete with the younger guys next season.

 

[big dog cowboy]

This will be Flo's last year in Dallas, imo, unless he has a bad year and no one else is interested in giving him big money...they we might sign him to a reasonable, non-guaranteed deal in order to let him compete with the younger guys next season.

I completely agree. Let some other team overpay for a 30+ year old free agent who is not a elite player by any means. I wish he would take a cut rate to stay but no way that happens.

 

[ZeroClub]

I agree 100%. We finally (or potentially) have the chance to draft a stud to anchor the line for the next 10yrs. To me, Jake Long (or whoever turns out to be the top LT prospect in the draft) is a no brainer.

Problem is, when was the last time Jerry went OL in the first?

My dream draft would be for Cleveland's pick to be a top 5 pick, us trading down a few spots and still landing a franchise OLT while picking up a 2nd and packaging that 2nd and our own first to move up to take Slaton.

Flo can take his false starts elsewhere and stall others' drives all he wants.

I like the idea of turning that Browns' pick into Slaton and another top player. ... I'd prefer a WR, though, and not a LT.

(I'm hoping that one of the young OLs already on the roster will be a quality replacement for Adams once Adams is gone).

 

[Hailmary]

I like the idea of turning that Browns' pick into Slaton and another top player. ... I'd prefer a WR, though, and not a LT.

(I'm hoping that one of the young OLs already on the roster will be a quality replacement for Adams once Adams is gone).

It's too early too tell, but I don't think the 2008 draft will be a very strong one for WRs. If we wanted to go WR high, I think this was the year. Next year's supposed to be a pretty decent year for O linemen however.

 

[L-O-Jete]

It's too early too tell, but I don't think the 2008 draft will be a very strong one for WRs. If we wanted to go WR high, I think this was the year. Next year's supposed to be a pretty decent year for O linemen however.

I thought the Cal, Mich and UT kid's were supposed to be studs?

 

[Hailmary]

I thought the Cal, Mich and UT kid's were supposed to be studs?

They may go high, but Manningham and Jackson seem like midgets compared to this years class, and I'm just not sold on Sweed.

So far, I am underwhelmed, but the season hasn't even started so there's plenty of time for them to prove me wrong.

-btw, I am not opposed to taking a WR high, I have wanted to for the past 5 yrs or so.

 

[ZeroClub]

It's too early too tell, but I don't think the 2008 draft will be a very strong one for WRs. If we wanted to go WR high, I think this was the year. Next year's supposed to be a pretty decent year for O linemen however.

It is too early to tell.

Sure, last year's draft class had many highly rated WRs. 2008's will likely have fewer. But that's not a reason to avoid drafting a WR in 2008.

Dwayne Bowe will not be a better NFL player because his draft class included Johnson, Ginn, Meachem, Jarrett, and others. DeSean Jackson won't be a worse NFL player because he was drafted in '08 instead of '07.

There is not a Calvin Johnson type WR in 2008 draft, but that doesn't matter. If we are talking about trading out of the Browns' pick and dropping back a few slots - a Calvin Johnson would be long gone anyway.

 

[theogt]

If Adams has a great year, there will be even less chance of our resigning him than if he had an average year. The market overpays...we have put at least 3young OT's on the roster who aren't starting this year because we will never be willing to overpay for Flozell Adams again. If he has a great year, he won't be willing to sign a 3 year deal unless it has an incredible signing bonus.

This will be Flo's last year in Dallas, imo, unless he has a bad year and no one else is interested in giving him big money...they we might sign him to a reasonable, non-guaranteed deal in order to let him compete with the younger guys next season.

That's an interesting way to look at it. But I just can't see many people, Jerry included, willing to let an LT who just had a "great year" walk out of his office.

 

[burmafrd]

Adams problem is his age. That is going to factor in big time. Now only if a team loses their LT and desperately needs a good one that can play NOW would he get a really good deal. Even then it would be a short term one.

 

[Hailmary]

It is too early to tell.

Sure, last year's draft class had many highly rated WRs. 2008's will likely have fewer. But that's not a reason to avoid drafting a WR in 2008.

Dwayne Bowe will not be a better NFL player because his draft class included Johnson, Ginn, Meachem, Jarrett, and others. DeSean Jackson won't be a worse NFL player because he was drafted in '08 instead of '07.

There is not a Calvin Johnson type WR in 2008 draft, but that doesn't matter. If we are talking about trading out of the Browns' pick and dropping back a few slots - a Calvin Johnson would be long gone anyway.

The thing is, if you factor in measurables (like I do), you sorta have to hold your breath w/ the top WR prospects of the upcoming class because Jackson is listed @165lbs and Manningham is listed @ 180lbs. Not only do they have to put on significant weight to be considered durable enough to play at the next level, but you have to wonder if they have the build to put on the weight w/o losing what makes them great college players, which is speed.