Interesting thought Get Bushrod at LT

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now heres my reasoning

I mean our players only have short time span to get Dallas to a SB

Romo - Witten - Ware etc

mean why take two or three years teaching a draft guy the position
when we could get a pretty good player at LT that can actually play LT

at 25 hes got 5 to 7 years of playing time left

I mean the Boys are down right stupid not to look into it

he only gave up 9 sacks - 9 QB hits - 34 QB pressures
in 19 games - in something like 1100 snaps

http://profootballfocus.com/by_player.php?tab=by_player&season=2009&lastname=Bushrod&surn=Bushrod&playerid=3741#

Flo

gave up 8 sacks - 9 QB hits - 42 QB pressures - in about 1200 snaps
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&leaguenum=&id=4455

I just like my LT to be 6-6 - but if he can do the job done

I send them my 2 rder this year for better than average LT

these will be his 5 year

Jerome Bushrod 6-5 #315

The Saints have offered a second-round tender to restricted free agent OT Jermon Bushrod

the offer calls for a $1.684 million salary, and the Saints can match any deal Bushrod might sign with another team. Though Bushrod flashed plenty of potential as a fill-in starter in 2009, his inconsistency will likely keep another team from attempting to sign him away.

I think Slate bought this up along time ago
 

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He isn't as good as Free so I don't see why we'd bother. He was owned by Ware and Freeney until his ankle gave out.
 

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Eskimo;3287910 said:
He isn't as good as Free so I don't see why we'd bother. He was owned by Ware and Freeney until his ankle gave out.

wow gave up two sacks to Ware - now how many players are as good as Ware

did not give up a sack againest Freeney

thats not bad company to be beat by

correct
 

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UnoDallas;3287914 said:
wow gave up two sacks to Ware - now how many players are as good as Ware

did not give up a sack againest Freeney

thats not bad company to be beat by

correct

He was being abused by Freeney whether or not he was credited with any sacks. Don't just read the statlines. He isn't all that good and is definitely the weaklink on the line.

If the Saints really thought of him as a good LT, why would they only put a 2nd rounder tender on him? You don't just let good, young LTs go for that price even if you have someone better.

I'd rather play Free at LT and use the 2nd rounder on a RT prospect.
 

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Yes, I brought this up in the draft zone awhile ago.

I don't know why teams don't do this. If Bushrod got a 2nd round tender. I would offer up a 2nd so fast.

Your getting a proven NFL player. Who knows if a guy like Charles Brown will be a complete bust.

I say offer up that 2nd and move Free back to swingtackle next year and take over for Columbo.
 

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Eskimo;3287917 said:
He was being abused by Freeney whether or not he was credited with any sacks. Don't just read the statlines. He isn't all that good and is definitely the weaklink on the line.

If the Saints really thought of him as a good LT, why would they only put a 2nd rounder tender on him? You don't just let good, young LTs go for that price even if you have someone better.

I'd rather play Free at LT and use the 2nd rounder on a RT prospect.

Put Bushrod at RT then. Maybe LT isn't his natural position. He's still a pretty damn good LT.

Using Freeney as an example is laughable since he would abuse Orlando Pace in his prime.
 

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Don't just read the statlines.

so what do you look at ?

NO attempted 544 passes

and Bushrod only gave up 9 sacks
 

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UnoDallas;3287930 said:
Don't just read the statlines.

so what do you look at ?

NO attempted 544 passes

and Bushrod only gave up 9 sacks

With Stinchcomb on the right side they were constantly able to shift help over to him. Flo gave up 9 sacks last year and his play has noticeably fell off. Hes serviceable but for a second rounder and what would be a big contract I want better than serviceable
 

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Bob Sacamano;3287934 said:

yes ONLY on 544 pass attempts

Bushrod

only gave up 9 sacks - 9 QB hits - 34 QB pressures
in 19 games - in something like 1100 snaps

Flo

gave up 8 sacks - 9 QB hits - 42 QB pressures - in about 1200 snaps

550 pass attempts
 

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UnoDallas;3287901 said:
now heres my reasoning

I mean our players only have short time span to get Dallas to a SB

Romo - Witten - Ware etc

mean why take two or three years teaching a draft guy the position
when we could get a pretty good player at LT that can actually play LT

at 25 hes got 5 to 7 years of playing time left

I mean the Boys are down right stupid not to look into it

he only gave up 9 sacks - 9 QB hits - 34 QB pressures
in 19 games - in something like 1100 snaps

http://profootballfocus.com/by_player.php?tab=by_player&season=2009&lastname=Bushrod&surn=Bushrod&playerid=3741#

Flo

gave up 8 sacks - 9 QB hits - 42 QB pressures - in about 1200 snaps
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&leaguenum=&id=4455

I just like my LT to be 6-6 - but if he can do the job done

I send them my 2 rder this year for better than average LT

these will be his 5 year

Jerome Bushrod 6-5 #315

The Saints have offered a second-round tender to restricted free agent OT Jermon Bushrod

the offer calls for a $1.684 million salary, and the Saints can match any deal Bushrod might sign with another team. Though Bushrod flashed plenty of potential as a fill-in starter in 2009, his inconsistency will likely keep another team from attempting to sign him away.

I think Slate bought this up along time ago

at 25 he is got similar stats to an old Adams. that doesn't bode well for a long term solution. he also played on a team next to Jahari evans and a team loaded at the offensive position. played in a weak conference as well.

I wouldn't give up a 2nd round pick for him. I would sign him if he was UFA or released, but wouldn't give up a pick for some one I already have on the roster who frustrates the hell out of everybody and everybody wants to get rid of. you are not making a strong case for acquiring him.
 

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Eskimo;3287910 said:
He isn't as good as Free so I don't see why we'd bother. He was owned by Ware and Freeney until his ankle gave out.
Beaten by two of the best pass rushers in the NFL. Say it ain't so.

For the cost of a second round choice, he's certainly worth considering. I would put him ahead of most tackles likely to be available in the draft for us in April with the 59th pick.

He can also possibly play guard.
 

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Freeny ON ONE LEG owned him.


And if I recall correctly the Hotel has been able to contain freeny.
 

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burmafrd;3288112 said:
Freeny ON ONE LEG owned him.


And if I recall correctly the Hotel has been able to contain freeny.

Reggie White owned Larry Allen playing with ONE ARM. The greats do that.

Freeney on one leg can own the majority of left tackles. And Adams, despite what people whine about, is above the norm.

I am not saying he needs to be some sort of savior.

But put it this way, I would take him over most of the rookies likely to be available in the second round at tackle. The Saints won a championship with him at left tackle. Regardless of who "owned" him, they still were able to win and win a lot with him.
 

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You do realize the bad ankle was Freeny's push off foot, right? and he still owned BUSHROD. The guy is no better then a decent backup and nothing else. He is not worth pursuing at all.
 

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I mentioned this kid during the season. I currently live in his home town. In speaking with his family it is no secret that he has always wanted to play for Dallas. Before this year, he only started 3 games - 1 in '07, 2 in '08. Last year he got thrown into the fire and, true, he struggled at times, but he showed marked improvement as the season progressed. Flo had started 48 games in his first 3 years (reg/playoff), Bushrod only has 17 (reg/playoff) - he's just getting started in this league, but has shown potential. He's young, getting better and WANTS to be a Cowboy. Are we that satisfied with McQ and Brewster that we won't try to improve what we have?
 

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C'boy4Life;3288167 said:
I mentioned this kid during the season. I currently live in his home town. In speaking with his family it is no secret that he has always wanted to play for Dallas. Before this year, he only started 3 games - 1 in '07, 2 in '08. Last year he got thrown into the fire and, true, he struggled at times, but he showed marked improvement as the season progressed. Flo had started 48 games in his first 3 years (reg/playoff), Bushrod only has 17 (reg/playoff) - he's just getting started in this league, but has shown potential. He's young, getting better and WANTS to be a Cowboy. Are we that satisfied with McQ and Brewster that we won't try to improve what we have?

I'm just not very impressed with him from the 3 games I saw - good passrushers abuse him almost as bad as Edwards abused Colombo in the Minnesota playoff loss. He gets easily overpowered and isn't quick enough for the LT position.

I'd rather try my luck in the draft to get a better guy who can play RT.
 

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C'boy4Life;3288167 said:
I mentioned this kid during the season. I currently live in his home town. In speaking with his family it is no secret that he has always wanted to play for Dallas. Before this year, he only started 3 games - 1 in '07, 2 in '08. Last year he got thrown into the fire and, true, he struggled at times, but he showed marked improvement as the season progressed. Flo had started 48 games in his first 3 years (reg/playoff), Bushrod only has 17 (reg/playoff) - he's just getting started in this league, but has shown potential. He's young, getting better and WANTS to be a Cowboy. Are we that satisfied with McQ and Brewster that we won't try to improve what we have?
You just have to figure the cost.

He would cost a second round choice.

The question becomes is he better than the likes of Jason Fox, Selvish Capers, Ciron Black, Jared Veldheer, Kyle Calloway, Sam Young, Zane Beadles, Roger Saffold and Ed Wang? I think so.

I have no doubt he would be better than any reserve not named Free on this roster. At the cost of a second round choice, that is what you have to figure.
 

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UnoDallas;3287901 said:
now heres my reasoning

I mean our players only have short time span to get Dallas to a SB

Romo - Witten - Ware etc

mean why take two or three years teaching a draft guy the position
when we could get a pretty good player at LT that can actually play LT

at 25 hes got 5 to 7 years of playing time left

I mean the Boys are down right stupid not to look into it

he only gave up 9 sacks - 9 QB hits - 34 QB pressures
in 19 games - in something like 1100 snaps

http://profootballfocus.com/by_player.php?tab=by_player&season=2009&lastname=Bushrod&surn=Bushrod&playerid=3741#

Flo

gave up 8 sacks - 9 QB hits - 42 QB pressures - in about 1200 snaps
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&leaguenum=&id=4455

I just like my LT to be 6-6 - but if he can do the job done

I send them my 2 rder this year for better than average LT

these will be his 5 year

Jerome Bushrod 6-5 #315

The Saints have offered a second-round tender to restricted free agent OT Jermon Bushrod

the offer calls for a $1.684 million salary, and the Saints can match any deal Bushrod might sign with another team. Though Bushrod flashed plenty of potential as a fill-in starter in 2009, his inconsistency will likely keep another team from attempting to sign him away.

I think Slate bought this up along time ago

Bushrod is a turnstile and isnt half the player Flozelle Adams is.
 

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Journeyman- you can have him. A second, no way.
 
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