Interesting thoughts from NFL network, could we be interested in another WR

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Nothing wrong with being stub...uhh, persistent, Hos. :laugh2: You just aren't going to get Williams for another three years at least. Unless you become a Lion's fan. :eek:
 

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kojak_DD said:
Wouldn't surprise me one bit. Parcells seems to love making deals with the Jets.

who said there may be a deal between the Cowboys and Jets?
 

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I would like for us to go for a solid OT, although I realize that is one of the toughest positions to find..
 

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CrazyCowboy said:
I would like for us to go for a solid OT, although I realize that is one of the toughest positions to find..

totally agree with CC...T is much more of a concern (still) IMO

maybe we'll see something vs the Saints to help with the concerns here, but otherwise I think they really need to be looking at other options here

David
 

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dbair1967 said:
do we need another TE?

David
You and Yeag love to torture me with that line, but can either of you show me one single down he has played at TE?

I didn't think so.
 

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abersonc said:
Do you really think our front office doesn't do research on a player and establish what sort of price they are going to pay for the player?

The only time people get 2nd thoughts is when they make impulsive decisions -- if you think NFL front offices make those sort of decisions you are fooling yourself.

Those of you who think that giving up a 6th round pick for a legit 3rd or 4th receiver is stupid - you also need a reality check. You guys can get in line behind the people who still think we are going to get Lelie.

Good point. I guess that is why we failed him and he probably won't make Denvers roster.
 

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Hostile said:
You and Yeag love to torture me with that line, but can either of you show me one single down he has played at TE?

I didn't think so.

probably about the same amount of downs he's played at WR then, because he sux so much that he never sees the field

I liked this guy at USC and even liked him going into the draft last yr, but he a HUGE (no pun intended) bust that will never be a starting NFL WR...too slow, no work ethic etc etc

David
 

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dbair1967 said:
do we need another TE?

David
LOL. Witten is prolly faster than Mike Williams. can we convert him to right tackle ala Rayfield Wright?
 

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dbair1967 said:
probably about the same amount of downs he's played at WR then, because he sux so much that he never sees the field

I liked this guy at USC and even liked him going into the draft last yr, but he a HUGE (no pun intended) bust that will never be a starting NFL WR...too slow, no work ethic etc etc

David
29 receptions, 350 yards, 12.1 ypc, and 1 TD...as a WR.

You know, myopia isn't flattering. It's fine to dislike the way a guy plays the game and I'll openly admit I expected more of him and still do.

29 receptions = never sees the field?

Those stats equal his time as a TE?

You know better than that because I know you're not stupid about football. The fact remains he has NOT played one down as a TE. He has played exclusively as a WR. That is exactly what I said and you know it. I didn't exagerate his worth or return to my pre 2005 draft praise of him as the next great WR in the NFL.

You spoke through myopia and now you're just amplifying it. Bad practice IMO. Just food for thought.
 

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Jets are running a 3/4, Mangini has direct ties will Parcels. Shanle would fit that 3/4. Not sure about the availability of WRs or OLs in New York.

Not sure we have a RB to spare, except for Kincade.
 

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Hostile said:
29 receptions, 350 yards, 12.1 ypc, and 1 TD...as a WR.

You know, myopia isn't flattering. It's fine to dislike the way a guy plays the game and I'll openly admit I expected more of him and still do.

29 receptions = never sees the field?

Those stats equal his time as a TE?

You know better than that because I know you're not stupid about football. The fact remains he has NOT played one down as a TE. He has played exclusively as a WR. That is exactly what I said and you know it. I didn't exagerate his worth or return to my pre 2005 draft praise of him as the next great WR in the NFL.

You spoke through myopia and now you're just amplifying it. Bad practice IMO. Just food for thought.

you cant deny the fact that he's a major disappointment, so much so that the Lions have discussed (even publicly) the possibility that he will be released...he's been overweight since day one and has had what two different coaching staffs now refer to as a poor work ethic

the guys a waste of time...I dont care what position he plays, he isnt going to see the field much, if at all

David
 

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dbair1967 said:
you cant deny the fact that he's a major disappointment, so much so that the Lions have discussed (even publicly) the possibility that he will be released...he's been overweight since day one and has had what two difference coahcing staffs now refer to as a poor work ethic

the guys a waste of time...I dont care what position he plays, he isnt going to see the field much, if at all

David
A 2nd year player is not a "waste of time." I already acknowledged he hasn't met my expectations. How many times do I need to do that before it sinks in? 3, 4, a dozen? More than that?

The fact remains he has not played a down as a TE, which is all I said in the first place and elicited the retort that he has played there as much as WR. That was a blatant false statement spoken from myopia. You want to chide me for ever liking the guy, fine. Have at it. But at least be honest about it. Is that too much to ask? If so, then I retract my request and instead ask you to bear the burden of proof.

Show me 12 receptions and 150 yards as a TE. That way less than the "half" you claimed.
 

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I remember saying before the draft that Mike Williams would not be a good NFL reciever. He is not even Keyshawn fast and can be covered easily by the bigger faster nfl linebackers. Sometimes it just feels good to be vindicated. :laugh2:
 

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starfrombirth said:
I remember saying before the draft that Mike Williams would not be a good NFL reciever. He is not even Keyshawn fast and can be covered easily by the bigger faster nfl linebackers. Sometimes it just feels good to be vindicated. :laugh2:
Vindicated? After 1 year?

Premature evaluation.
 

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It's not just the talent level Hos. It's the committment, work ethic, and the fact that he can be covered by almost any linebacker in the nfl. Maybe is vindication is still a little on the Horizon but I still stand by my original assessment of him.
 

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starfrombirth said:
It's not just the talent level Hos. It's the committment, work ethic, and the fact that he can be covered by almost any linebacker in the nfl. Maybe is vindication is still a little on the Horizon but I still stand by my original assessment of him.
Can you give me the lottery numbers?
 
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