Is Cowher that good ...

[StanleySpadowski]

The Steelers are an interesting team and fanbase, very unlike Dallas'.

The Cowher era has at first had a great defense, quality running game and crappy QBs (Brister, O'Donnell, Stewart). It's a shame for their SB chances that the defenses' decline coincided with better QB play.

There is a reason for the decline though, for years the Steelers were one of the only 3-4 teams so they could take the DEs, NTs, and OLB later in the draft because they were only competing with a few teams for the services of players who didn't meet the schemes of most defenses. Now that the 3-4 is under a resurgence, their ability to pluck quality late rounders has suffered.

You also have to remember that the Rooney family doesn't have the financial means of most of the other owners. They can't throw money around like the Joneses and Snyders of the NFL. The Steelers aren't just a high priced hobby for them, they can't afford empty seats and they need to be competitive every year just to fill the stadium, witness the small market status and the Pirates not selling out a home game seven once.



Their fanbase seems satisfied with being "pretty good". They have it all over their rivals. Philadelphia was on a streak of "pretty good" but their rivals could always point to their own Lombardis and mock them. Only the Ravens have one in their division and even most Ravens fans admit to the flukiness of the one season wonders.

 

[Juke99]

That's a very good point. I don't think of teams by their personalities and coaches any more. It's always just how well they are doing that year and who the players are.

Good perspective. And no I don't want anything from you and don't let it go to your head either (in my best Tuna mode).

Well, it's only a good point cuz it's true.

I was trying to figure out a way to articulate that fans root for team records now....not the team. If that makes any sense.

It's right in line with what you are saying.

 

[jobberone]

I would forgive you, but you will probably just forget that I did.

Oh my God how that is true. I almost fell out of my chair until I realized how sad that is. But the grin came back real fast and I'm chuckling as I write this. Thanks for lightening up my day friend.

Two thumbs up!

 

[WV Cowboy]

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Are you impressed with the West Virginia Mountaineers football team yet ?

 

[StanleySpadowski]

Are you impressed with the West Virginia Mountaineers football team yet ?

Not really, UGA spotted them 28 and still should have won.

 

[Swat]

Cowher IS that good.

The Steelers are almost always a contender.

I'd kill for the Cowboys to have that kind of longevity and consistancy in the modern NFL that the Steelers have had since Cowher took over.

And to think . . . the Steelers almost hired Wandstadtt . . .

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Shula won two Superbowls in Miami. He won back to back Superbowls with 7 and 8. He took Miami to 5 Superbowls and took Baltimore to 1.

1. Shula's Colts lost to the Jets & Joe Willy.
2. We lost our first SB to the Colts and Head Coach Don McCafferty.
3. We then took it out on Shula and his Dolphins. Beat him the first time he made it to SB(6) with Miami. He then went on to win the next two(7 & 8).

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Cowher IS that good.

The Steelers are almost always a contender.

I'd kill for the Cowboys to have that kind of longevity and consistancy in the modern NFL that the Steelers have had since Cowher took over.

And to think . . . the Steelers almost hired Wandstadtt . . .

They are no better or worse than the Eagles... the lost how many AFC title games at home??? Three I think?

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Parcells

 

[kingwhicker]

They are no better or worse than the Eagles... the lost how many AFC title games at home??? Three I think?

Four- 1994, 1997, 2001, 2004. :laugh2:

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Four- 1994, 1997, 2001, 2004. :laugh2:

:laugh2:

 

[Kilyin]

PT,

There's a big difference in intentionally misspelling something to mock Jerry Jones versus trying to sound intellectual and completely butchering a word, but thanks for the spellcheck ace.

BTW, how do you spell 0 and 6 in the NFC East?

E-A-G-L-E-S

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Or are the Rooneys just that patient ?

They are still waiting for him to win his first Super Bowl, yet he has been there since 1992.

That's 14 seasons.

Most organizations aren't that patient.

Is he so good that he merits waiting 14 yrs ?

[I wish there was a smiley smashing a Squeelers helmet]

Ask and you shall receive - here you go!

 

[mr.jameswoods]

I know that Cowher would have a better chance winning the Superbowl if he had an owner like Jerry Jones who wouldn't allow his players to walk. The fact the Steelers are in it every year despite losing key players every year is just short of a miracle.

If the Steelers and the Rooneys were in Dallas, the fans would attack the Rooneys and not Bill Cowher because they would acknowledge that it isn't Cowhers' fault that the teams lets players like Plaxico Burress and Kendrick Bell walk every year.

It's sickening to think they could be that much better if their owner allowed their team to keep their players.

 

[Clove]

It should not take 14 years to win a big one or get there once. He's a good coach, but he's way overrated. I say 5 year max to get you to the dance, and 8 to win.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

I think what we are forgetting in all of this is that it takes a dedicated owner to win a Superbowl too. You are not going to win a Superbowl these days on the cheap. You can have the best coach in the world and if his owner is cheap and doesn't spend money when the team needs to, he is not going to win a Superbowl. The Steelers ownership has not shown the dedication required to win a Superbowl in the modern era and you can't blame Cowher for that. This isn't the 70's. You are not going to win a Superbowl if you let players like Plaxico Burress and Kendrick Bell walk. I think the exception to this is the Patriots but they have broken all the rules thus far anyway so I consider them an anomaly.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

PT,

There's a big difference in intentionally misspelling something to mock Jerry Jones versus trying to sound intellectual and completely butchering a word,

I'll respond in 3rd-person to keep this interesting and non-personal ...

What is this, the Zone MB or the Spelling-Bee MB? One should check themself out before they start slinging stones in a glass MB.

a) Perhaps it was side-stepping the essence of a post and responding to a misspelled word that holds more priority for some.

b) Perhaps it was an obsessive compulsion, or a pet-peeve that released a desire to "school" (edify) me.

Trust me, I knew how to spell the word facetious. And what the heck are you talking about ..."butchering a word?"

News Flash: One misspelled word, a "butchering" does not make (author unknown). A typographical error does not constitute butchering a word -- unless one always resorts to the extreme end of a continuum.

BTW, how do you spell 0 and 6 in the NFC East?

Ouch! Nasty, but I'll give this one a try ...please feel free to edit my response. Here goes - NO PLAYOFFS 4 U 2!

but thanks for the spellcheck ace.

You're welcome jack.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Not really, UGA spotted them 28 and still should have won.

Ha, hilarious !!
WV beat a very very good GA team.
We kicked their butts early, ... we forced two turnovers with big defensive plays, and they couldn't stop WV.
Slaton ran for over 200 yds, .. broke Tony D's Sugar Bowl rushing record.
We scored early, they scored late, but they couldn't score enough.
They couldn't stop us from scoring the game clinching TD on a 95 yd drive in the 4th qtr.
And they couldn't stop us when it counted, on the fake punt.
WV ended up 11-1 and ranked in the top 10 after being Sugar Bowl champs.
Impressive or not, I'll take that most years.

 

[Kilyin]

One should check themself out before they start slinging stones in a glass MB.

Then why did you post that in the first place? Take your own advice.

 

[Kilyin]

Trust me, I knew how to spell the word facetious.

I Know you must mean that faceously, but I'll respond seriously.