Is Dak Prescott the next Tebow?

[Alexander]

I know exactly what kind of response this thread will get.

And that is fine.

But weeks ago when the Elliott suspension looked real, I pointed out we really did not have a big enough sample size without Elliott to make a determination about Prescott's future prospects. A lot of people got angry.

Now, after three games, we have a sample size. It is basically a quarter of a season.

To me, he looks like he has had the benefit of scripted starts since he came into the league. You just can't go from dangerous to inept with the loss of one player.

I don't care about the Sean Lee and Chaz Green arguments.

Look at the player and what he is doing.

I am pretty concerned. To the point that I believe he can't play without Elliott behind him.

The thing that bothers me at this stage is if it is the player or this staff's inability to adjust his game.

I realize it is next to impossible to do this after preseason, as it is set, but it still bugs me.

All I can say is that this season is over.

And we will be left with this QB question at the end.

 

[Vintage]

He isn't a franchise QB.

Risen was right.

I repent.

 

[texbumthelife]

Dak has been bad the last few games, there is no way around it. I disagree about the sample size though and I still think he has a chance to show, for the rest of the season, that he has the TOOLS to be a great starter.

Let’s remember, this kid was thought of as a project from day one. He wasnt a first round pick or #2 pick like Wentz. He was thrust into the lineup and played admirably. Now he looks like a project again. Now it looks like he probably wasn’t ready.

He still has those tools though.

I think he at least deserved the rest of this season before people abandon all hope.

 

[Alexander]

Tim Tebow.

Robert Griffin.

The precedent is there.

 

[Brooksey]

I know exactly what kind of response this thread will get.

And that is fine.

But weeks ago when the Elliott suspension looked real, I pointed out we really did not have a big enough sample size without Elliott to make a determination about Prescott's future prospects. A lot of people got angry.

Now, after three games, we have a sample size. It is basically a quarter of a season.

To me, he looks like he has had the benefit of scripted starts since he came into the league. You just can't go from dangerous to inept with the loss of one player.

I don't care about the Sean Lee and Chaz Green arguments.

Look at the player and what he is doing.

I am pretty concerned. To the point that I believe he can't play without Elliott behind him.

The thing that bothers me at this stage is if it is the player or this staff's inability to adjust his game.

I realize it is next to impossible to do this after preseason, as it is set, but it still bugs me.

All I can say is that this season is over.

And we will be left with this QB question at the end.

The fact that the staff has not adjusted to his strengths is a laughable joke. The guy is great on the bootleg runs, play action passes and read option. I'm not sure I saw it called once today but I was back and fourth with company/family etc. so I may have missed. I saw the one read option TD that called back for holding.

 

[Alexander]

Dak has been bad the last few games, there is no way around it. I disagree about the sample size though and I still think he has a chance to show, for the rest of the season, that he has the TOOLS to be a great starter.

Let’s remember, this kid was thought of as a project from day one. He wasnt a first round pick or #2 pick like Wentz. He was thrust into the lineup and played admirably. Now he looks like a project again. Now it looks like he probably wasn’t ready.

He still has those tools though.

I think he at least deserved the rest of this season before people abandon all hope.

I am starting to doubt the TOOLS.

He is not mentally capable of recognizing what he sees without the benefit of doubt in the defense.

He is not especially accurate with his throws.

He is not confident when plays break down to take chances.

I am sorry, he looks exactly like a constructed product, not a budding superstar.

 

[Alexander]

Mods, I have not idea what happened to my thread title.

Either change it to Is Dak Prescott the next Tebow? or just delete it.

Thanks.

 

[TWOK11]

Tim Tebow.

Robert Griffin.

The precedent is there.

Tim Tebow was NEVER a passer. He never came close to a season like Dak's last year.

Robert Griffin tore his knee to shreds and then tore up his shoulder in a matter of 9 months and was never the same. He also never had a year like Dak's last year, either.

 

[Staubacher]

We had one of our all time best QBs ready to play again and we froze him out for this flameout.

 

[crashintonickdm]

Just don’t think you can blame dak when clearly the coaching is not adequate when stars go out

We saw it in 2015 with romo. The coaches had no clue how to help the team succeed

 

[9darter]

He is not mentally capable of recognizing what he sees without the benefit of doubt in the defense.

He is not especially accurate with his throws.

He is not confident when plays break down to take chances.

B-b-but he's hearing footsteps after the Atlanta game ...

 

[JoeyBoy718]

I was saying he didn't look good early in the season. People laughed since we were winning.

 

[texbumthelife]

I am starting to doubt the TOOLS.

He is not mentally capable of recognizing what he sees without the benefit of doubt in the defense.

He is not especially accurate with his throws.

He is not confident when plays break down to take chances.

I am sorry, he looks exactly like a constructed product, not a budding superstar.

He kind of looks like a fourth round QB who’s facing his first real adversity and needs to show he can learn and overcome it. I’m not sure three games is proof he can’t do that. He made some awful throws in this stretch, for sure. I think he needs work, but I think he’s got the work ethic and the tools to, at the very least, be a good quarterback.

 

[SultanOfSix]

If this is the case, and I emphasize the if, then it makes the coaching look even stupider for sitting Romo last year. That would mean the coaching staff is even a bigger problem.

 

[TWOK11]

We had one of our all time best QBs ready to play again and we froze him out for this flameout.

That's not what happened at all.

 

[Alexander]

Tim Tebow was NEVER a passer. He never came close to a season like Dak's last year.

Robert Griffin tore his knee to shreds and then tore up his shoulder in a matter of 9 months and was never the same. He also never had a year like Dak's last year, either.

That is what I expected.

Good.

But as I expected, the logic of the analogy did not hit home.

Both players were schemed.

They both had their best success with systems built around them and in an incubator.

Prescott was in an incubator until Elliott's suspension.

Now he looks like he can't even play.

If you have a valid explanation, I would love to hear it.

I brought up Tebow and Griffin because basically, they are at his career pinnacle.

 

[visionary]

Can't judge with this garbage coaching

 

[Alexander]

If this is the case, and I emphasize the if, then it makes the coaching look even stupider for sitting Romo last year. That would mean the coaching staff is even a bigger problem.

Just get over Romo.

Seriously.

I get he is like some ex-girlfriend who gave you wild sex from time to time, but please, just stop talking about him.

He has zero relevance to this team and what we do going forward.

 

[Alexander]

Can't judge with this garbage coaching

That is part of the problem.

The coaching was a lot like Mike McCoy with Tim Tebow.

Got him a head coaching job in S.D. and then he flamed out.

The Shanahans have fizzled in a way as well.

This is a big quandary.

If there were a new head coach coming in, their first job would be to fix Prescott.

 

[TWOK11]

That is what I expected.

Good.

But as I expected, the logic of the analogy did not hit home.

Both players were schemed.

They both had their best success with systems built around them and in an incubator.

Prescott was in an incubator until Elliott's suspension.

Now he looks like he can't even play.

If you have a valid explanation, I would love to hear it.

I brought up Tebow and Griffin because basically, they are at his career pinnacle.

Neither player was comparable to Prescott so your claim is inherently flawed. You're ignoring the obvious confounding variable, namely that neither player ever demonstrated the skill at quarterback that Prescott did in 2016.

You're taking three games and proclaiming that a previously good quarterback will go the route of two demonstrably inferior football players. It's nonsensical on the most basic level.

Dak may work out, he may not. But he is most certainly NOT Tim Tebow, and that is what you're asserting. Scripted or not, he simply has skills Tebow never had.