Is Dez radioactive?

[Wood]

When Dez is right..I love to watch him play.

But his last year and a half has been so disappointing.

And it seems as though other WRs have surpassed him for commercial endorsements as well as on the field accomplishments.

Evans for Tampa is getting alot of interest in the media as is Brown for Pitt and Julio Jones of Atlanta, AJ Green for Cincy and Odell Beckham for NY.

Dez is just not registering on the Reichter Scale of WRs.

Having arguements with DBs in social media in which guns are being referenced can't be helping him either.

Not reporting to team doctors and going AWOL becuz of an injury and distracting the entire organization for selfish reasons is more than just a blip but the team absorbed it for now.

So my question is..

where is this going for the team and Dez?

If he gets hurt again or continues to be a distraction..

what then?

Opinions welcome.

This is not a hate Dez thread.

Its a GM question.

Not vent.

Dez isn't in class of Brown, Jones, Beckham. He is tier below and he has limitations. But he can still be very effective as long as he is used correctly. Dallas is better team when they spread ball around. Here is how Dez can be used correctly;

1) Throw Dez a pass on 1st series. Dez is emotional guy and losses confidence when not involved as focal point. Involve him early or pay the consequences.
2) Dez is not volume catcher. He shouldn't see more than 10 passes a game. Throwing to him more risk injury as Dez is physical receiver and Dallas is just a better team when Beasley & Witten are equally involved.
3) Keep Dez routes simple. Dez is just not one of these receivers who can ad-lib his routes. When he has clear defined spot to get to he excels. When he tries to adjust to technique changes by DB he gets washed out.

 

[Idgit]

Dez isn't in class of Brown, Jones, Beckham. He is tier below and he has limitations. But he can still be very effective as long as he is used correctly. Dallas is better team when they spread ball around. Here is how Dez can be used correctly;

1) Throw Dez a pass on 1st series. Dez is emotional guy and losses confidence when not involved as focal point. Involve him early or pay the consequences.
2) Dez is not volume catcher. He shouldn't see more than 10 passes a game. Throwing to him more risk injury as Dez is physical receiver and Dallas is just a better team when Beasley & Witten are equally involved.
3) Keep Dez routes simple. Dez is just not one of these receivers who can ad-lib his routes. When he has clear defined spot to get to he excels. When he tries to adjust to technique changes by DB he gets washed out.

Pretty simply put.

Don't understand the dislike for Dez. All the dude does is compete and want to be part of a winning team. I do understand feeling he's not elite or that he's now overpaid, but that's never what the objection is. Radioactive? Not sure I even understand the question being asked there. No, he's not radioactive. Yes, he's a good player and a key contributor on offense. Don't think it's any more complicated than that.

 

[Wood]

Pretty simply put.

Don't understand the dislike for Dez. All the dude does is compete and want to be part of a winning team. I do understand feeling he's not elite or that he's now overpaid, but that's never what the objection is. Radioactive? Not sure I even understand the question being asked there. No, he's not radioactive. Yes, he's a good player and a key contributor on offense. Don't think it's any more complicated than that.

In my opinion the hate comes from those who had super super high expectations and Dez never became GOAT. Still can get job done but we need to stop putting him in tier 1 group. Will make everyone life easier probably including Dez.

 

[Idgit]

In my opinion the hate comes from those who had super super high expectations and Dez never became GOAT. Still can get job done but we need to stop putting him in tier 1 group. Will make everyone life easier probably including Dez.

You're probably right. He's a very good WR who's had some drop-off due to injuries, age, and changes at QB. It is what it is. He was starting to come around and play better prior to the Giants game, too.

 

[Proof]

When Dez is right..I love to watch him play.

But his last year and a half has been so disappointing.

And it seems as though other WRs have surpassed him for commercial endorsements as well as on the field accomplishments.

Evans for Tampa is getting alot of interest in the media as is Brown for Pitt and Julio Jones of Atlanta, AJ Green for Cincy and Odell Beckham for NY.

Dez is just not registering on the Reichter Scale of WRs.

Having arguements with DBs in social media in which guns are being referenced can't be helping him either.

Not reporting to team doctors and going AWOL becuz of an injury and distracting the entire organization for selfish reasons is more than just a blip but the team absorbed it for now.

So my question is..

where is this going for the team and Dez?

If he gets hurt again or continues to be a distraction..

what then?

Opinions welcome.

This is not a hate Dez thread.

Its a GM question.

Not vent.

To give an honest response, you just listed arguably the top 5 WRs in the game. I'd love for Dez to be mentioned amongst them again, but there's nothing damning about them being above him currently.

People try to discredit Dez or paint him as a scrub and then reference the elite of the elite. The bottom line is, if they're the reference, then by default you're admitting Dez is elite. It's comical at this point, he's either best in the league or a bum. Just for reference though, AJ and Julio are currently not playing due to injury. I'm going to assume that won't be held against them (rightfully ) Julio has also disappeared a handful of games this year and despite his incredible performances still has less tds than Dez, same for AJ green.

Odell while having an electrifying year has been a distraction for his team and called out by his coach.

That leaves the gold standard in Antonio brown who is arguably the best skill player in the league, and Mike Evans who while having an incredible year still won't reach the heights that Dez has without an otherworldly explosion over the next 3 games.

So as far as a GM... you count your blessings and leave it at that

 

[kramskoi]

This is not a Dez bashing thread although you seem to want a reset.

Its about where does Dez come down with the other receivers and does positive publicity matter or not in perception.

Dez we have been told had 'changed'..

he was a better version coming into 2016 all off season.

I don't see it.

I'm hoping somebody has some insight.

Yours is noted.

Thanx.

You don't see too much it seems...but what you want to see...also known as confirmation bias and belief perseverance. In the four games before the Giants game, the following occurred between two top shelp receivers:

Bryant...21 - 352 yds - 4 TDs (16.7 ypc)
Beckham...31 - 339 yds - 3 TDs (10.9 ypc)

Bryant has not had a FULL season since 2014...and this is because of something known in the NFL as injury...maybe you've heard of it a few times. Moreover, this year is his first with a rookie quarterback who is currently finding his way.

 

[kramskoi]

This post is radioactively asinine in it's construction, as well as it's premise.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

You don't see too much it seems...but what you want to see...also known as confirmation bias and belief perseverance. In the four games before the Giants game, the following occurred between two top shelp receivers:

Bryant...21 - 352 yds - 4 TDs (16.7 ypc)
Beckham...31 - 339 yds - 3 TDs (10.9 ypc)

Bryant has not had a FULL season since 2014...and this is because of something known in the NFL as injury...maybe you've heard of it a few times. Moreover, this year is his first with a rookie quarterback who is currently finding his way.

BINGO.

They'll acknowledge the injuries but turn around and effectively act like it has had no bearing on his play on the field by arguing about his recent performance the past two years. Now we're hearing Dez apparently was never "elite," lol. Funny, we never had these threads when he was averaging 1,300+ yards and 12-14 TDs a season when he was relatively healthy (played all 16 games three straight seasons) and had an established rapport with his QB (Romo).

The undue expectations are those thinking he has to come down with every circus-reel catch and then suffering the board with their barstool logic "welp, 'elite' receivers should come down with those."

Here's news...every single one of our receivers numbers are down a tick this year with exception of perhaps Beasley, whom go figure, makes a living running short, QB friendly, underneath routes. As Dak adjusts, learns and grows confident the passing game will open up for everyone including Dez.

 

[haleyrules]

I think a TON of Cowboys fans truly believe he is way better than he actually is. I used to be one of them. Dez is just another receiver to me.

Thats the answer and highly paid to be so.

 

[mahoneybill]

Playing with 5 different QBs in the last year and a half will do that to any receiver. Let it go.

That and being injured. Think of what any of could do if thrust into even a pick up friends games with similar limitations. Magnify that by the speed of the pro game and I for one give Dez a break.

P.S. Two other observations... Attended a college game recently and sat behind the goal posts.

1. These guys , even at college level , are a lot faster than they look on TV, and the ball is coming very fast to the receivers.

2. The goal posts are really narrow. The pro kickers are really good, even when they miss....

The football goal crossbar is 10 feet high, and the posts are an additional 20 feet high, for a total height of 30 feet. NFL and NCAA goal posts are 18 feet, 6 inches wide.

 

[mahoneybill]

I wonder how good Dez would be playing with Joe Montana and Steve Young. Just wondering.

Walsh would have had him run the Jerry Rice slant version..... Rice wasn't fast he just was in the right place and Montana put the ball where he didn't have to jump or twist to get it.

Dez , more times than not, is jumping to get a pass.....

 

[mahoneybill]

You don't see too much it seems...but what you want to see...also known as confirmation bias and belief perseverance. In the four games before the Giants game, the following occurred between two top shelp receivers:

Bryant...21 - 352 yds - 4 TDs (16.7 ypc)
Beckham...31 - 339 yds - 3 TDs (10.9 ypc)

Bryant has not had a FULL season since 2014...and this is because of something known in the NFL as injury...maybe you've heard of it a few times. Moreover, this year is his first with a rookie quarterback who is currently finding his way.

Beckham gets credit for a few big plays, and is still living off his ( to me - push off on Carr) one hander....

 

[superonyx]

I think a TON of Cowboys fans truly believe he is way better than he actually is. I used to be one of them. Dez is just another receiver to me.

Do you mean Dez and T Will are the same? They are both just another receiver types?

Anyone who truly believes Dez is just another receiver lacks a real understanding of this sport.
So which receiver from the Eagles would you trade straight up for Dez? Which Commanders receiver? Desean Jackson? Pierre Garçon? Which Packers, Seahawks, Bills, Cardinals, ect... Receiver would you trade straight up for Dez today? Since he is just another receiver don't answer with Julio Jones or any receiver that is elite because you clearly said Dez is just another receiver.

Go ahead and avoid the question or deflect. Answering seriously will only make you look goofy.

 

[xwalker]

When Dez is right..I love to watch him play.

But his last year and a half has been so disappointing.

And it seems as though other WRs have surpassed him for commercial endorsements as well as on the field accomplishments.

Evans for Tampa is getting alot of interest in the media as is Brown for Pitt and Julio Jones of Atlanta, AJ Green for Cincy and Odell Beckham for NY.

Dez is just not registering on the Reichter Scale of WRs.

Having arguements with DBs in social media in which guns are being referenced can't be helping him either.

Not reporting to team doctors and going AWOL becuz of an injury and distracting the entire organization for selfish reasons is more than just a blip but the team absorbed it for now.

So my question is..

where is this going for the team and Dez?

If he gets hurt again or continues to be a distraction..

what then?

Opinions welcome.

This is not a hate Dez thread.

Its a GM question.

Not vent.

He was a no show for a commercial shoot a few years ago. Only megastars (LeBron) can get by with that type of behavior.