Is it just me or...

[Hostile]

i hated TO all the way up until last year for his little star thing but how long are people gonna hold that grudge?


as far as his antics HE RUINED TWO OF OUR RIVALS.why are we mad at that?lol

For me it isn't about the star incident. I have issues with a WR who publicly bags on his QB.

 

[stilltheguru]

but they were qbs that were not cowboys qbs.why should we care?


when he blasts drew then we will have a problem but i dont think that will happen.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

For me it isn't about the star incident. I have issues with a WR who publicly bags on his QB.

The star incident would have been enough for me. That is just a total slap in the face for the team, fans, and franchise.

But his off-field antics and need to be in the spotlight have always been the thing that puts him over the top as far as dislike.

 

[Hostile]

but they were qbs that were not cowboys qbs.why should we care?


when he blasts drew then we will have a problem but i dont think that will happen.

Because I care about the game of football. I was taught to respect your QB and not tear him down because the team needs confidence in him. It's okay to have doubts. It is not okay to publicly roast him.

It's like when Parcells and the coaching staff left practice in 2003 and Richie Anderson stepped up and took over. It pissed me off. The FB, even if he is the Coach's advocate, should not speak over the QB. It's his team. If that isn't respected, the team goes nowhere.

It has nothing to do with the 9ers or the Eagles. I hate them. I respect the position of QB on a football team. When someone disrespects it like that, it bugs me.

I can't explain it any better.

 

[Hostile]

The star incident would have been enough for me. That is just a total slap in the face for the team, fans, and franchise.

But his off-field antics and need to be in the spotlight have always been the thing that puts him over the top as far as dislike.

That doesn't bother me anymore. Teague and Emmitt took the sting of that away for me. My pride in them was greater than my anger at him. Roy horse collaring him to the injured list helped.

I find that no more offensive than I do any celebration. It was inapropriate, but even his team apologized for that through Mooch. At that point it is better to let it go. Message sent.

 

[MS17]

Im among those who are equally intrigued with Owens' considerable WR talents and skills as I am his stupefying, incredibly mindless and dumb antics on the sidelines and quips with sports reporters. I cant even fathom how great QBs like our own Staubach, Jurgensen, Unitas, Starr, Dawson, Bradshaw and others would have reacted with a player like T.O. on the same roster. No doubt he adds a lot of octane to an offense....but to the detriment of a team's focus and cohesivness?
Im anxious for TC to start and all, but Im still troubled by the potential for problems the player brings to this team.
Another T.O. thread, please!!!

 

[Portland Fanatic]

For me it isn't about the star incident. I have issues with a WR who publicly bags on his QB.

They both bother me...but I have to agree that calling out a team mate in public is just wrong! I'm not sure which bothers me most, but together it makes for a strong dislike of the player.

 

[Doomsday101]

They both bother me...but I have to agree that calling out a team mate in public is just wrong! I'm not sure which bothers me most, but together it makes for a strong dislike of the player.

For me it is easy, while I think the star incident was classless I never gave it much thought afterwards. Calling teammates out in the media I find very disturbing and that is my biggest fear for the Cowboys.

 

[Alexander]

Because I care about the game of football. I was taught to respect your QB and not tear him down because the team needs confidence in him. It's okay to have doubts. It is not okay to publicly roast him.

It's like when Parcells and the coaching staff left practice in 2003 and Richie Anderson stepped up and took over. It pissed me off. The FB, even if he is the Coach's advocate, should not speak over the QB. It's his team. If that isn't respected, the team goes nowhere.

It has nothing to do with the 9ers or the Eagles. I hate them. I respect the position of QB on a football team. When someone disrespects it like that, it bugs me.

I can't explain it any better.

It was also Garcia and McNabb's duty as team leaders to step up as such and slap down the petulant child in Owens. They stood for it in the lockerroom and allowed him to take it to the media.

Strife goes on against the QB all the time. A poor leader allows it to continue. That's why I hold both of them just as accountable in a manner of speaking because they didn't take matters into their own hands. They responded with a victim performance through the media. A QB who is the leader doesn't stand for it. And they certainly don't go wailing back to management and the media complaining. They handle it.

 

[Coakleys Dad]

Im 35, and i understand that he disrespected the star. point made, but as a wide reciever he is top 3 in the league, and i am excited of what he brings to the field every play. Im happy hes here, and i think he is going to make us unstoppable if the oline can hold up, sorry if i pissed anyone off by starting this thread but i love the old school cowboys and our history, but i cant help but be excited about havin T.O..

 

[jazzcat22]

That doesn't bother me anymore. Teague and Emmitt took the sting of that away for me. My pride in them was greater than my anger at him. Roy horse collaring him to the injured list helped.

I find that no more offensive than I do any celebration. It was inapropriate, but even his team apologized for that through Mooch. At that point it is better to let it go. Message sent.

Agree, the STAR incident is over. Agree also in another post about disrespect to your QB and team. Now, not to defend TO, we don't know the entire situation (wait for the book ). But you still should not be dis respectful when you know the public will be all over it. Maybe that's the way he thought he needed to get his point across.
Everyone makes mistakes, TO's is just National news everyday.

I hated TO at first for the Star incident at the time, but now it's over. But the guy is GOOD, so if you don't want to see it, keep him from scoring. But you have to admit, some of his TD things were pretty good.

How many people hated Prime Time for his TD celebrations..how many loved it when he scored for us. How many people hated Irvin when he started his FIRST DOWN gesture...we loved it. One coach said they need to keep Irvin out of the endzone...because when he scores he celebrates way to much and it gets the fans and team fired up. How many of those opposing fans just hated him...we loved it. TO's celebrations were just 'different'

I am still undecided about him, but glad he is on our team. I am just going to sit back and see what happens, not be over hyped about anything right now.

TO's first TD:
Would you love to see a cool TD celebration...or how about he just runs and gives the refs the ball, or hands it to Drew.
Better yet, he and Drew both sign it in quiet on the sidelines, and during a break takes it to a fan in the stands.

 

[Alexander]

Maybe that's the way he thought he needed to get his point across.

Or get yourself shipped out of town. He is certainly knew what he was doing. Winning is very important to him and also he is a person who will speak up for what he believes is right. Again, not condoning it, but trying to understand.

Everyone makes mistakes, TO's is just National news everyday.

And that is probably the way he likes it. That is my biggest concern. I don't think he will be a bad teammate, I really don't. I do think he will continually attempt to garner attention because he is so insecure. I would prefer him to just know he is good and get on with scoring touchdowns and sending that confidence back to his teammates as Irvin used to.

I hated TO at first for the Star incident at the time, but now it's over. But the guy is GOOD, so if you don't want to see it, keep him from scoring. But you have to admit, some of his TD things were pretty good.

I was extremely angry during that game at him. But as time went on, I wasn't. Because we allowed him to do it. He did it because he could, as Irvin said. Anyone who holds a grudge about that is pretty thin-skinned as far as I am concerned.

Better yet, he and Drew both sign it in quiet on the sidelines, and during a break takes it to a fan in the stands.

That's what I want to see. Either that or just serving it back to the referee.

 

[juck]

The only time I will be excited about seeing TO is when he is scoring a TD.

Otherwise I would rather not see or hear the guy.

You will change ur mind soon enuff.

 

[Alexander]

The only time I will be excited about seeing TO is when he is scoring a TD.

Otherwise I would rather not see or hear the guy.

Just TDs. So no cheering when he catches a clutch 3rd and 9 pass either.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Just TDs. So no cheering when he catches a clutch 3rd and 9 pass either.

Who knows at this point.

I did not like the idea of Keyshawn Johnson either but by his play and the way he handled himself for the most part he changed my mind.

Point is I don't know if I will cheer for TO specifically instead of cheering for the team.

Now maybe that is a shortcut and a form of fooling onself. But at this point I just don't care for the guy. I will be happy for the TEAM if he does well because it should mean the TEAM is doing well.

But I just see no way that I will get around to caring for him as a person/individual on this team. I can respect his talent but that is not respecting him as a person.

He has to earn my respect. Now I am sure he could care less about some hairy fat guy sitting in WV behind a computer but I am just talking about earning my respect so I would change my opinion about him.

It could happen, just as Key did. Just doesn't look too good.

I don't want to hear the man talk, I don't want to hear reporters blabbering on about him, I don't want to hear about him doing this or that off the field...I just want the team to do well and if he does well with the team then so be it.

 

[dargonking999]

To me, and my whole thing at that time and still now. The first time he did it, offensive yes, but when he did it the second time, i put the blame squarley on the shoulders of JJ, and the Def. JJ for making our team so dang sorry and our def, for letting him score a second time. If teague would have smacked TO like that when he was in the endzone maybe TO woudlnt have scored, but instead that just sat around and let TO do w/e he wats thne have the nerve to get mad when TO does he little dance action. No you want somebody to respect the star, then defend that star. Plain and simple.

On his decision to rag the QB's. Again, yes he was douch bag for doing it, but once again, if the QB's would stop puking, and breath long enough to play some football then TO wouldnt have a word to say. If people would stop trying to sit behind the QB and throw rocks at TO, he wouldnt have to come out and call his QB by his first name. am i defending TO yes, do i approve of his actions no. But to slay a man, and drop loyalty of your team, to hate his ever lasting guts, for things that could have easily been stopped to me is pointless. he's done wat he's done. All i care about is his production on the field. And his mouth being closed off the field.

 

[StarWiz2]

TO 14 Skins 0
TO 14 Eagles 0
TO 14 Giants 0
TO 14 Dallas 14


NFC EAST PREDICTIONS

Dallas 28 Skins 14
Dallas 28 Skins 14
Dallas 28 Giants 14
Dallas 28 Giants 14
Dallas 28 Eagles 14
Dallas 28 Eagles 14

Dallas Conference Record 6-0

NFC Championship

Dallas 28 Carolina 14

Super Bowl

Dallas 28
Denver 14

Super Bowl Champions 2007 Dallas Cowboys
Super Bowl Champions 2008, 2009, 2010 Dallas Cowboys


TO and Dallas :jackpot:


"To err is human, to forgive divine!"

"When trouble arises and things look bad, there is always one individual who perceives a solution and is willing to take command. Very often that individual is crazy, (TO)."

 

[Sportsbabe]

as far as his antics HE RUINED TWO OF OUR RIVALS.why are we mad at that?lol

Trudat. That alone is enought to love him for life. It will also make for much more interesting football when we go up against them. Oh, the drama!!!!:starspin

 

[Alexander]

Point is I don't know if I will cheer for TO specifically instead of cheering for the team.

With Deion, I never liked him personally, but I still cheered him. Instead of yelling his name like "Go EMMITT go", I would yell "Run you $#@&*, RUN!!". Same thing but somehow different.

But I just see no way that I will get around to caring for him as a person/individual on this team. I can respect his talent but that is not respecting him as a person.

Well, I hate to say this, but I don't waste emotional investments on football players anymore. I did that as a child, but now with the amount of information that's out there, not a single player can live up to the pedestal we place them on. Rooting for laundry and all that jazz. Romance is for Harlequin novels and those who weep openly at sunsets.

He has to earn my respect. Now I am sure he could care less about some hairy fat guy sitting in WV behind a computer but I am just talking about earning my respect so I would change my opinion about him.

He should have everyone's respect as a player right now. As a person, well that's everyone's personal issue to overcome or not if they want to continue to be childish about it.

I don't want to hear the man talk, I don't want to hear reporters blabbering on about him, I don't want to hear about him doing this or that off the field...I just want the team to do well and if he does well with the team then so be it.

I also wish for silence. That is one thing I don't understand about Owens. He eats up the media attention. It gives him a rush and vanquishes his deeper insecurities. And I don't know if he can break that habit.

 

[Chief]

I also wish for silence. That is one thing I don't understand about Owens. He eats up the media attention. It gives him a rush and vanquishes his deeper insecurities. And I don't know if he can break that habit.

He can't help it.

LaTunaNostra maintained that Owens has some mental issues, and I tend to agree. Histrionic Personality Disorder is my diagnosis.