Is it just me or...

[ghst187]

is it just me or is anyone else excited about finally seeing T.O. wear the star for the first time on friday?

Its just you....

 

[Hostile]

There's (almost) always two sides to each story. Personally, I wonder if said QB was as innocent as many in the media portrayed him.

I never said the QBs were innocent. It wouldn't matter to me what they are "guilty" of though. Somebody, I forget who, said they didn't defend themselves. Right, the 2 QBs kept it out of the media. That's a well known rule of the locker room. Keep it in house.

On the field is the only talking TO needs to do. His performance has ALWAYS spoke volumes. The stuff for the cameras is uneccessary and negative. He doesn't need it.

 

[Alexander]

I never said the QBs were innocent. It wouldn't matter to me what they are "guilty" of though. Somebody, I forget who, said they didn't defend themselves. Right, the 2 QBs kept it out of the media. That's a well known rule of the locker room. Keep it in house.

They didn't keep it out of the media.

They both went whining to the press when pressed about it instead of saying "no comment". Both Garcia and McNabb both had lengthy rebuttals and played the victim card to the hilt. They ate up the attention nearly as much as Owens himself.

As for defending themselves, they could have handled it, behind closed doors, but failed. They played the game out through the press just as Owens did.

 

[Hostile]

They didn't keep it out of the media.

They both went whining to the press when pressed about it instead of saying "no comment". Both Garcia and McNabb both had lengthy rebuttals and played the victim card to the hilt. They ate up the attention nearly as much as Owens himself.

As for defending themselves, they could have handled it, behind closed doors, but failed. They played the game out through the press just as Owens did.

Well, he started it.

I get what you are saying, but it's just a taboo thing with me. The QB could knock up my sister and leave her high and dry and I wouldn't bash him to the press. He and I would probably exchange blue words and haymakers in the locker room. But it would stay there from my end.

He broke that code. That is my only real complaint against him. The star thing is nothing. If he doesn't repeat this habit here, I will probably enjoy his time here. If he makes this same mistake here, it will piss me off. At least I'll be consitent.

 

[Alexander]

Well, he started it.

Here is an article when the whole Garcia buzz started. This comes from a noted gay publication:

Owens, Garcia and Gay

By Jim Buzinski
Outsports.com
Terrell Owens implies that Jeff Garcia is gay. Garcia denies it and mentions that he has had girlfriends. The mainstream media is excited. I yawn.
I confess that the Owens-Garcia lover’s quarrel, as one friend jokingly dubbed it, leaves me underwhelmed. I don’t think Owens’ comments, while classless and ignorant, were all that heinous. And Garcia’s response is annoying.
Yet the dustup between the two former teammates has provided grist for a media mill lacking in much else to write about in the dog days of summer. A Google News search turns up 150 media sources that have run with the story, and ESPN devoted a segment to the issue, spinning it into a larger “homosexuals in the NFL angle.”
Owens, a wide receiver for the Philadelphia Eagles, started things off when his comments in the current issue of Playboy became public. In the article, he was asked whether he thought Garcia was gay. "Like my boy tells me: If it looks like a rat and smells like a rat, by golly, it is a rat."
He then followed up with general comments on having a gay teammate. "I probably wouldn't say anything right off the bat. I'd just see what everyone else has to say. I'd probably keep my distance and, hopefully, he would keep his. If it was a guy who was helping us win ball games, hey, I'd have no problem with it. He can do what he wants to do outside of my everyday life."
A day later he was furiously backspinning. "I didn't say that he was gay," Owens told reporters. "The conversation and the interview were loose. To my knowledge, I'm not sure if Jeff is gay or not. I've seen him out — he had a girlfriend when we were in San Fran. There's been a recent report that he has a girlfriend now. That was the extent of it. Everybody's going to make a big deal out of it. It wasn't like I came out and said 'Jeff was gay.' People asked me similar questions about Steve Young. Everybody is going to have their rumors."

Over time, people make it out that he said flat out, "Jeff is gay". That's wrong.

I get what you are saying, but it's just a taboo thing with me. The QB could knock up my sister and leave her high and dry and I wouldn't bash him to the press.

You don't hold your sister in much esteem then.

He and I would probably exchange blue words and haymakers in the locker room. But it would stay there from my end.

Which honestly, McNabb or Garcia should have had a knockdown drag out with him in the lockerroom the first time he shot off his mouth, but they didn't. This wasn't a sudden, shocking thing. Owens was given more leeway because they allowed it. And he comments got bolder, and bolder and bolder.

Put it this way: would Brett Favre tolerate it? Dan Marino? Troy Aikman? No. But these two did. Because they are both used to being coddled and favored by management. Garcia was a noted Walsh lapdog and McNabb was the posterchild of the Eagles organization.

He broke that code. That is my only real complaint against him. The star thing is nothing. If he doesn't repeat this habit here, I will probably enjoy his time here. If he makes this same mistake here, it will piss me off. At least I'll be consitent.

He did break the "code". Irvin even faults him for that. And so do I. But this is much like blaming a child when they do something terrible that you have been aware them doing for quite some time. The blame can be spread, and it should go partially to the one who doesn't think like a child and the one who should have asserted themselves in the situation before it got out of control in the first place.

 

[Hostile]

You don't hold your sister in much esteem then.

Actually I do. Read it again. I said I'd defend her in the locker room, not in the court of public opinion. When they finally catch up with my sister's ex-husband I imagine my 2 brothers and I will draw straws for who will go to jail for whipping his butt. He'll need jail to avoid it. I'd gladly go to jail if they gave me just 5 minutes with him.

I'm talking about something that in sports is taboo. It's just that simple for me. All the magazine articles in the world won't change that. He shouldn't have dragged it into the press.

Which honestly, McNabb or Garcia should have had a knockdown drag out with him in the lockerroom the first time he shot off his mouth, but they didn't. This wasn't a sudden, shocking thing. Owens was given more leeway because they allowed it. And he comments got bolder, and bolder and bolder.

I don't disagree with this. Even if he kicked their scrawny butts (my money would be on him) they should have stood up for themselves...in the locker room.

Put it this way: would Brett Favre tolerate it? Dan Marino? Troy Aikman? No. But these two did. Because they are both used to being coddled and favored by management. Garcia was a noted Walsh lapdog and McNabb was the posterchild of the Eagles organization.

Again, I don't disagree. I'm not defending Garcia or McNabb other than saying they were right not to drag it out in the media themselves. Wussing out, I don't agree with.

He did break the "code". Irvin even faults him for that. And so do I. But this is much like blaming a child when they do something terrible that you have been aware them doing for quite some time. The blame can be spread, and it should go partially to the one who doesn't think like a child and the one who should have asserted themselves in the situation before it got out of control in the first place.

I agree with everything in bold. I have no idea what point the rest of it was trying to make me see. My apologies if I am being dense.

 

[Mansta54]

Can't wait!!!!!

 

[mperfection]

They didn't keep it out of the media.

They both went whining to the press when pressed about it instead of saying "no comment". Both Garcia and McNabb both had lengthy rebuttals and played the victim card to the hilt. They ate up the attention nearly as much as Owens himself.

As for defending themselves, they could have handled it, behind closed doors, but failed. They played the game out through the press just as Owens did.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm anxious, if for nothing else to see how he reacts in Dallas during the season

 

[Zippy Speedster]

I love it! Though I wonder when some of you are going to get the hint that this actually is NOT your team anymore and move on. Really not your fault or anybodies fault, just the game has changed...the Dallas Cowboys have changed. TO, Bill Parcells, Jerry Jones, they are TODAY'S Dallas Cowboys, and no amount of b____ing and whinging will ever revert things back to yesteryear, the place so many of you are stuck in. Next it's going to be the music industry and too much "pop" and how much hollywood just don't make quality movies anylonger, lol. For the record, these are all signs that you're getting really ________ old. K9 retirement party, next week.

 

[Established1971]

is it just me or is anyone else excited about finally seeing T.O. wear the star for the first time on friday?:trophy:

Im sure it isnt just you but it sure as hell aint me

 

[Established1971]

I love it! Though I wonder when some of you are going to get the hint that this actually is NOT your team anymore and move on. Really not your fault or anybodies fault, just the game has changed...the Dallas Cowboys have changed. TO, Bill Parcells, Jerry Jones, they are TODAY'S Dallas Cowboys, and no amount of b____ing and whinging will ever revert things back to yesteryear, the place so many of you are stuck in. Next it's going to be the music industry and too much "pop" and how much hollywood just don't make quality movies anylonger, lol. For the record, these are all signs that you're getting really ________ old. K9 retirement party, next week.

I always find it wise to double check my spelling before sending a post where I insult a bunch of people for no good reason. I guess I'll stop my "whinging" now.

 

[Alexander]

I agree with everything in bold. I have no idea what point the rest of it was trying to make me see. My apologies if I am being dense.

The point is, I don't agree with it, but I don't hold his feet to the fire because of it. It is a "code", but again these are circumstances that we know only what we are told. Nobody knows if what he did was in retaliation, an act of desperation or not. Once again, it isn't a case of excusing or accepting his actions, but rather understanding there is more to it than we know and it is not a simple case of his direct culpability. I don't consider him an evil person because he broke some mythical "code". Just a child. And one that needed to be spanked. And I wouldn't consider a child evil if they took the rope they were given.

 

[Hostile]

The point is, I don't agree with it, but I don't hold his feet to the fire because of it. It is a "code", but again these are circumstances that we know only what we are told. Nobody knows if what he did was in retaliation, an act of desperation or not. Once again, it isn't a case of excusing or accepting his actions, but rather understanding there is more to it than we know and it is not a simple case of his direct culpability. I don't consider him an evil person because he broke some mythical "code". Just a child. And one that needed to be spanked. And I wouldn't consider a child evil if they took the rope they were given.

Gotcha.

I don't consider him an evil person either. On the football field I truly enjoy watching him play. No different than someone like Bill Romanowski. I consider him spitting on JJ Chokes as breaking the code as well. I don't condone those types of actions and I speak out against them. If that is me holding his feet to the fire then that's what it is. From where I sit it's me expressing my Constitution given right to opinion about something I find quetionable.

If you take a look at my posts you'll find that I am not among the hordes who can't forgive him for the incident on the star. I'm not holding him to a different standard than I am other players. I'm simply stating something that I personally believe in. That team is sacred.

 

[superpunk]

I consider him spitting on JJ Chokes

Eh

 

[notherbob]

Actually, I hope he never plays a down in a Cowboys uniform but I probably won't get my wish. That's OK, it's just one more reason to turn the TV off and go work in the fields or fix fences and get something worthwhile accomplished instead of sitting on my lazy butt in front of the boob tube. I almost never turn the TV on during the off-season anyway, so it won't be much of a change.

 

[Hostile]

I love it! Though I wonder when some of you are going to get the hint that this actually is NOT your team anymore and move on. Really not your fault or anybodies fault, just the game has changed...the Dallas Cowboys have changed. TO, Bill Parcells, Jerry Jones, they are TODAY'S Dallas Cowboys, and no amount of b____ing and whinging will ever revert things back to yesteryear, the place so many of you are stuck in. Next it's going to be the music industry and too much "pop" and how much hollywood just don't make quality movies anylonger, lol. For the record, these are all signs that you're getting really ________ old. K9 retirement party, next week.

Whinging? Did you mean whining? As in the entire tone of this post? bring on the cheese because Zippy's got the whine.

No kidding football will not revert back to the days of yesteryear when it was a better product. Guess what else isn't going to go backwards Zippity Doo Duh? Your age is not going to go backwards. So when you're old, gray, feeble, and arthritic, and punk kids are disrespecting you just because they can, I want you to remember one thing. Karma never loses. Enjoy.

 

[Hostile]

Eh

You don't remember when Mad Dog Romo did that?

Sean Taylor did it too. That's why I don't respect him.

 

[superpunk]

You don't remember when Mad Dog Romo did that?

Sean Taylor did it too. That's why I don't respect him.

Oh - I was confused. I thought you were saying TO spit on Stokes.

Reading comprehension is key.

 

[Hostile]

Oh - I was confused. I thought you were saying TO spit on Stokes.

Reading comprehension is key.

No. Romo (not QB Tony) spit on JJ Chokes.