Is it really all JJ's fault?

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take away all the amenities. the players should do nothing but study, practice and play football this next year. no jacking them up thinking they are special because they play for the DC.
 

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if you’ve been a Dallas fan as long as I have you’ll already know Jerry hasn’t REALLY gotten a return on his investments.. Jerry just wants to win championships, that’s the ultimate goal for every team. With the amount of money he’s spent on players over the years he should definitely have more than 5 rings. I don’t get how he’s always the blame.. easy target I guess.
Because he creates a culture of glitter without performance to go with it. he wants a Quarterback with a good story instead of one who can win SB's. those are "his guys"
 

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It is Jerry's fault...Are you kidding? Jerry got his bargain in Dakota and another bargain in Fat Mike. Jerry loves him some bargains but, bargains can come back
to bite you in the butt. Jerry and his fans are now paying the price for the years to come. This only way to fix this team is to blow it up and start over in the draft over the next two years. Get used to losing, boys and girls.
 

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No it’s not all his fault. But as the GM, it’s mostly his fault. General Managers are supposed to put organizations together and delegate to people who are skilled at their specific jobs for one purpose: winning championships. If your players, coaches, or others aren’t performing when it matters, you move on and replace them. For example, you don’t saddle a team with an unqualified coach for ten years, e.g., Garrett, and then wonder why things aren’t working. Being regular season “kings” (sometimes) while pathetically wilting when the lights get brighter and the competition gets tougher, shows he’s not doing his job well, and hasn’t been doing so for the last 30 years.
 

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Not sure you can be certain that Irvin wasn’t addicted to cocaine. Not an “insane” take.
over 30 years ago, and still in fans heads.
Got in a text war last night with a friend, still whining about how Romo was screwed over.
And though I agreed to a certain point. I told him stop being butt hurt over it, it was 8 years ago.
The thing is he was not that huge of a Romo fans until about 6 years ago.

We Fans have no idea what went on back then, many fans just go with these all are bad concept, because of who they are.
 

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No it’s not all his fault. But as the GM, it’s mostly his fault. General Managers are supposed to put organizations together and delegate to people who are skilled at their specific jobs for one purpose: winning championships. If your players, coaches, or others aren’t performing when it matters, you move on and replace them. For example, you don’t saddle a team with an unqualified coach for ten years, e.g., Garrett, and then wonder why things aren’t working. Being regular season “kings” (sometimes) while pathetically wilting when the lights get brighter and the competition gets tougher, shows he’s not doing his job well, and hasn’t been doing so for the last 30 years.
W/ Jerry, it's more what he doesn't do than what he does. For instance, he doesn't go and watch video of possible draftees, which is one of the GM's jobs. He doesn't understand how to put together a team. He doesn't understand the role that DT's and OL's play, or S's. He has no clue what lateral agility or burst is.
 

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"The Associated Press released its NFL All-Pro teams on Friday morning, and nine players from the Dallas Cowboys landed on the two teams with CeeDee Lamb, DaRon Bland, Zack Martin and Brandon Aubrey earning first-team honors and Dak Prescott, Tyron Smith, Tyler Smith, Micah Parsons and Bryan Anger earning second-team."

So, if Jerry as GM is fielding a team of All-Pros, and he hired a "proven" defensive coordinator (Quinn) and a Superbowl-winning coach (McCarthy), in recent years, what is he doing so egregiously wrong?

Sure, he's the face of the franchise unlike other owners, but in some ways, that should be a good thing...syphoning unnecessary media attention away from the players.

And no, all of his decisions haven't panned out, but that's for every owner. Hec, many people take 1st-round QBs who become busts. Way more busts than success.

So, I ask the honest question (also asking myself because I crap all over Jerry Jones too when given the chance), what more can he do?

Yes, I think this team is overrated, but the pundits and others always tell me this team has one of the most talented rosters in the league, backed up by 9 All-Pro players, so I guess I'm wrong.

But if this team IS truly talented, and Jerry hired seasoned coaches to get this team over the top, can we really blame Jerry for all the team's woes as of late?
Yes it is
He is the one who creates and perpetuates the culture of player entitlement and he is the one who hired Mccarthy and will keep him, he hired Quinn and he is the one who will keep Dak despite him proving he is a playoff loser

Jerry wants revenue, eyeballs, notoriety and relevance at the cost of excellence and championships

So, absolutely, Jerry is THE MAIN reason for continued mediocrity
 

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Its really the culture. Some of the players let being a Cowboy get to their head and lose focus.
 

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"The Associated Press released its NFL All-Pro teams on Friday morning, and nine players from the Dallas Cowboys landed on the two teams with CeeDee Lamb, DaRon Bland, Zack Martin and Brandon Aubrey earning first-team honors and Dak Prescott, Tyron Smith, Tyler Smith, Micah Parsons and Bryan Anger earning second-team."

So, if Jerry as GM is fielding a team of All-Pros, and he hired a "proven" defensive coordinator (Quinn) and a Superbowl-winning coach (McCarthy), in recent years, what is he doing so egregiously wrong?

Sure, he's the face of the franchise unlike other owners, but in some ways, that should be a good thing...syphoning unnecessary media attention away from the players.

And no, all of his decisions haven't panned out, but that's for every owner. Hec, many people take 1st-round QBs who become busts. Way more busts than success.

So, I ask the honest question (also asking myself because I crap all over Jerry Jones too when given the chance), what more can he do?

Yes, I think this team is overrated, but the pundits and others always tell me this team has one of the most talented rosters in the league, backed up by 9 All-Pro players, so I guess I'm wrong.

But if this team IS truly talented, and Jerry hired seasoned coaches to get this team over the top, can we really blame Jerry for all the team's woes as of late?
Culture, no toughness. The best move he made in the last 30 years was hiring Parcells and then he went back to his old ways right after that with a guy like Wade Phillips and a Garrett. No toughness in either of them at all! Thats why Tomlin wins in Pitts with very little talent. Football toughness and culture
 

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Culture, no toughness. The best move he made in the last 30 years was hiring Parcells and then he went back to his old ways right after that with a guy like Wade Phillips and a Garrett. No toughness in either of them at all! Thats why Tomlin wins in Pitts with very little talent. Football toughness and culture
Well, that ain't changing any time soon, so we better be prepared to wait another 30 years. LOL
 

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Well, that ain't changing any time soon, so we better be prepared to wait another 30 years. LOL
Many of us may not have another 30 years. :laugh:

This is why I move on from it all after each time we get punched out. Yes 6 months a long time to wait for the next real game. We go through the off-season with the same FO charades. Again.

I have too much other things to do and want to do than bring myself down over a game. But each time it does take something away.
The only thing that can spark an interest now, is a change. HC, DC, OC, and QB. Otherwise all lip service and status quo cow patties.
 

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Jerry Jones is the owner/GM, and the only constant in the Cowboys failure to win a Super Bowl, so yes he is ultimately responsible for the team's success. As owner, he continues to "employ" a GM who has had little success in putting together teams that can win playoff games, let alone a Super Bowl. The reality is, other teams have full time GM's who devote 24-7 to putting together cohesive and successful teams. If those goals are not met in a reasonable time period, the GM is fired. The Cowboys on the other hand, have a part time GM, at best, who is only still employed because he owns the team, and only relevant because he heads up the Cowboy brand. If/When, the Jones's ever relinquish control and bring in a full time GM, and a Head Coach who is allowed to assemble their own staff...we stand a chance. As long as Jerry continues the insanity of playing part time GM, Coach, spokesperson, scout, etc., we are doomed to repeat this mediocre and losing formula that has existed for decades now. As a long time fan, just my 2 cents.
 

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"The Associated Press released its NFL All-Pro teams on Friday morning, and nine players from the Dallas Cowboys landed on the two teams with CeeDee Lamb, DaRon Bland, Zack Martin and Brandon Aubrey earning first-team honors and Dak Prescott, Tyron Smith, Tyler Smith, Micah Parsons and Bryan Anger earning second-team."

So, if Jerry as GM is fielding a team of All-Pros, and he hired a "proven" defensive coordinator (Quinn) and a Superbowl-winning coach (McCarthy), in recent years, what is he doing so egregiously wrong?

Sure, he's the face of the franchise unlike other owners, but in some ways, that should be a good thing...syphoning unnecessary media attention away from the players.

And no, all of his decisions haven't panned out, but that's for every owner. Hec, many people take 1st-round QBs who become busts. Way more busts than success.

So, I ask the honest question (also asking myself because I crap all over Jerry Jones too when given the chance), what more can he do?

Yes, I think this team is overrated, but the pundits and others always tell me this team has one of the most talented rosters in the league, backed up by 9 All-Pro players, so I guess I'm wrong.

But if this team IS truly talented, and Jerry hired seasoned coaches to get this team over the top, can we really blame Jerry for all the team's woes as of late?
I think he's brought in some really good talent but the bad coaching hires are doing us in. He needs to get it right next time
 

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"The Associated Press released its NFL All-Pro teams on Friday morning, and nine players from the Dallas Cowboys landed on the two teams with CeeDee Lamb, DaRon Bland, Zack Martin and Brandon Aubrey earning first-team honors and Dak Prescott, Tyron Smith, Tyler Smith, Micah Parsons and Bryan Anger earning second-team."

So, if Jerry as GM is fielding a team of All-Pros, and he hired a "proven" defensive coordinator (Quinn) and a Superbowl-winning coach (McCarthy), in recent years, what is he doing so egregiously wrong?

Sure, he's the face of the franchise unlike other owners, but in some ways, that should be a good thing...syphoning unnecessary media attention away from the players.

And no, all of his decisions haven't panned out, but that's for every owner. Hec, many people take 1st-round QBs who become busts. Way more busts than success.

So, I ask the honest question (also asking myself because I crap all over Jerry Jones too when given the chance), what more can he do?

Yes, I think this team is overrated, but the pundits and others always tell me this team has one of the most talented rosters in the league, backed up by 9 All-Pro players, so I guess I'm wrong.

But if this team IS truly talented, and Jerry hired seasoned coaches to get this team over the top, can we really blame Jerry for all the team's woes as of late?
Yes cuz dak should not have been resigned
 

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Jerry Jones is the owner/GM, and the only constant in the Cowboys failure to win a Super Bowl, so yes he is ultimately responsible for the team's success. As owner, he continues to "employ" a GM who has had little success in putting together teams that can win playoff games, let alone a Super Bowl. The reality is, other teams have full time GM's who devote 24-7 to putting together cohesive and successful teams. If those goals are not met in a reasonable time period, the GM is fired. The Cowboys on the other hand, have a part time GM, at best, who is only still employed because he owns the team, and only relevant because he heads up the Cowboy brand. If/When, the Jones's ever relinquish control and bring in a full time GM, and a Head Coach who is allowed to assemble their own staff...we stand a chance. As long as Jerry continues the insanity of playing part time GM, Coach, spokesperson, scout, etc., we are doomed to repeat this mediocre and losing formula that has existed for decades now. As a long time fan, just my 2 cents.
Well said.

Jerry refuses to even watch film. What a great GM.
 
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