Is it really all JJ's fault?

[Cowboysheelsreds058]

Yes, Jed, Fat Mike, Dan and Dak.

 

[BKBDAD]

"The Associated Press released its NFL All-Pro teams on Friday morning, and nine players from the Dallas Cowboys landed on the two teams with CeeDee Lamb, DaRon Bland, Zack Martin and Brandon Aubrey earning first-team honors and Dak Prescott, Tyron Smith, Tyler Smith, Micah Parsons and Bryan Anger earning second-team."

So, if Jerry as GM is fielding a team of All-Pros, and he hired a "proven" defensive coordinator (Quinn) and a Superbowl-winning coach (McCarthy), in recent years, what is he doing so egregiously wrong?

Sure, he's the face of the franchise unlike other owners, but in some ways, that should be a good thing...syphoning unnecessary media attention away from the players.

And no, all of his decisions haven't panned out, but that's for every owner. Hec, many people take 1st-round QBs who become busts. Way more busts than success.

So, I ask the honest question (also asking myself because I crap all over Jerry Jones too when given the chance), what more can he do?

Yes, I think this team is overrated, but the pundits and others always tell me this team has one of the most talented rosters in the league, backed up by 9 All-Pro players, so I guess I'm wrong.

But if this team IS truly talented, and Jerry hired seasoned coaches to get this team over the top, can we really blame Jerry for all the team's woes as of late?

The question is was yesterday’s debacle Jerry’s fault? The answer is it’s EVERYONE’S fault!
1. JERRA - He didn’t add one additional player during the season to add depth etc. while teams like S.F. & Philly added both free agents & traded players.
2. MCCARTHY - He obviously was out coached, out schemed & didn’t have his players jacked up to play! (Remember Jimmy?)
3. THE PLAYERS - The so called leaders of this team in unison saved their worst performance for the playoffs? Dak, CeeDee, Micah, etc. were all so blatantly terrible they should have a tough time looking themselves in the mirror for a while!

The fans have nothing to do with wins & losses, and we’ve duped again into believing that this year would be different which is most likely not going to change anytime soon! If the Jones’ ever come to the understanding that they are not the smartest football people in the world & hire outside the family for help, then & only then will the team I love be relevant in Super Bowl’s again!!

"The Associated Press released its NFL All-Pro teams on Friday morning, and nine players from the Dallas Cowboys landed on the two teams with CeeDee Lamb, DaRon Bland, Zack Martin and Brandon Aubrey earning first-team honors and Dak Prescott, Tyron Smith, Tyler Smith, Micah Parsons and Bryan Anger earning second-team."

So, if Jerry as GM is fielding a team of All-Pros, and he hired a "proven" defensive coordinator (Quinn) and a Superbowl-winning coach (McCarthy), in recent years, what is he doing so egregiously wrong?

Sure, he's the face of the franchise unlike other owners, but in some ways, that should be a good thing...syphoning unnecessary media attention away from the players.

And no, all of his decisions haven't panned out, but that's for every owner. Hec, many people take 1st-round QBs who become busts. Way more busts than success.

So, I ask the honest question (also asking myself because I crap all over Jerry Jones too when given the chance), what more can he do?

Yes, I think this team is overrated, but the pundits and others always tell me this team has one of the most talented rosters in the league, backed up by 9 All-Pro players, so I guess I'm wrong.

But if this team IS truly talented, and Jerry hired seasoned coaches to get this team over the top, can we really blame Jerry for all the team's woes as of late?

 

[DandyDon1722]

Not a bad thread. I mean really it comes down to either MM and DQ are geniuses and managed to carry a bad GM and a mediocre roster to 12 wins and the #2 seed, or the roster is truly one of the top two rosters in the NFC and MM/DQ let us down.

Which is the truth is actually a really good debate.

I think it’s a blatantly Captain obvious answer. For the love of god of course it’s all Jerry’s fault. We are a flawed organization where players don’t respect the head coach, where the owner has to hold press conferences everyday where the GM is negotiating tv contacts and stadium lease deals while others evaluate talent.

It’s an awful obvious thread and to think it’s even asked blows me away but that’s my fault.

Nothing should surprise me anymore.

 

[KMY_Amber]

To be fair, Jones hired Parcells to get a stadium built, not to change the culture of the team. And Jones chafed while Parcells was in Dallas, and couldn't stay out of the way. Jones wants to be able to be the primary face of the team, and be comfortable and not walk on eggshells. To achieve that end, he hires guys who will defer to his incessant need to be on the radio, have press conferences, sit in on game planning meetings, and address the team in the manner that coaches generally do. As the owner, he can certainly do all of that. For anyone to think that this operating model is not detrimental to a head coach having authority over his team is lunacy.

Parcells said it best about Jones - he has no football philosophy. Jones couldn't tell you what a Dallas Cowboy football player is, what they should look like, what characteristics they should have, etc. He will parrot what the last person who spoke to him said as far as what he thinks at any given moment. Jones is more concerned with his own comfort level, marketing himself and the team, and relevance in the media than he is with on-field success. Most GMs are concerned with the product on the field, and making it better. The Cowboys' GM is concerned with being on the radio twice a week, opening Victoria's Secret stores and hanging art in his stadium, booking concerts, wrestling events, and signing real estate/oil and gas deals around the country. Dealing with personnel and how a team properly fits together doesn't make the list.

So, should we take some of the emotion out of this recent playoff loss, and be less critical of McCarthy and Quinn? Should we primarily blame Jerry for this playoff debacle?

We're so quick to throw the coaches and Dak under the bus, but should we just position all this ire at Jerry? What HC/OC/DC combination is really going to make an impact here and get us to the Superbowl with Jerry as the owner/GM? And should we really expect Dak to take us to the promise land with Jerry? Romo couldn't either. Same results.

Is this all just futile until Jerry (and maybe the Jones family) sells the team?

We're not players away, we're not a HC away, we're not an OC away, we're an owner away from a deep playoff run, right?

 

[OmerV]

As owner and GM it's his job to find a way to advance the team, so while s there are others that failed, ultimately everything is his responsibility.

 

[Plankton]

So, should we take some of the emotion out of this recent playoff loss, and be less critical of McCarthy and Quinn? Should we primarily blame Jerry for this playoff debacle?

We're so quick to throw the coaches and Dak under the bus, but should we just position all this ire at Jerry? What HC/OC/DC combination is really going to make an impact here and get us to the Superbowl with Jerry as the owner/GM? And should we really expect Dak to take us to the promise land with Jerry? Romo couldn't either. Same results.

Is this all just futile until Jerry (and maybe the Jones family) sells the team?

We're not players away, we're not a HC away, we're not an OC away, we're an owner away from a deep playoff run, right?

As long as the Cowboys are operated in the manner that they are currently, with Jerry and Stephen Jones in charge, they will not win a Super Bowl. Or, go on a deep playoff run.

Feel free to sticky this, and throw it in my face if it somehow ends up differently. I have nearly 30 years of past history that agrees with the above statement.

The coaches were terrible yesterday. So were the players. It's rinse, repeat with the Cowboys every January. One thing has been constant for the past 30 years. It's not Mike McCarthy or Dan Quinn or Dak Prescott or Micah Parsons. Those are symptoms. The disease has the name of Jones.

 

[KMY_Amber]

It’s an awful obvious thread and to think it’s even asked blows me away but that’s my fault.

So, if we're an owner/GM away from a deep playoff run, who cares if we change out the HC, OC or QB? Why do we spend so much time dissecting everything a player or coach does wrong when it ALL STARTS AT THE TOP?

It's a culture problem...nothing will change until the culture and the owner changes.

And while we wait for that to happen (almost 30 years later), we're all rooting for a team that forever disappoints us.

So, this is on US, we're the fools. At least Jerry's making money.

"Insanity is rooting for the same team over and over again and expecting different results."

 

[ufcrules1]

He hired Parcells. Was he not a real HC?

He hired him but he didn’t stay did he? Wonder why he didn’t?

 

[ufcrules1]

So, if we're an owner/GM away from a deep playoff run, who cares if we change out the HC, OC or QB? Why do we spend so much time dissecting everything a player or coach does wrong when it ALL STARTS AT THE TOP?

It's a culture problem...nothing will change until the culture and the owner changes.

And while we wait for that to happen (almost 30 years later), we're all rooting for a team that forever disappoints us.

So, this is on US, we're the fools. At least Jerry's making money.

"Insanity is rooting for the same team over and over again and expecting different results."

Actually, I’m a season ticket holder and always sell my tickets(to other Cowboys fans) so Jerry may make some money off me but I make money off him too. No way in hell I’m paying to go watch this country club team in person. When I see a real team that is hungry and coached right, I will go to the games. Otherwise, I’m going to make money off of this fake team owned by an ego maniac who only cares about himself. Instead of us blaming players and coaches all we should do is blame the owner since it’s all his fault anyway.

 

[b0xZZ]

Since Jerry is responsible for the guy who throws interceptions, it is Jerry throwing those picks. Jerry is responsible both for the players not showing up and for the coaches who let them not show up. That is the job of a GM.

And I don't disagree the buck has to stop with him. In the real world Jerry the GM would have been fired more than a decade ago.

 

[SwagSurfer]

YES

 

[DaleMc]

Is it "all" Jerry's fault, maybe not but if you read the quote from him after the game you can see he is a big part of the problem. This isn't a quote but he said he was expecting to meet with MM to discuss how the team played and how to prepare for their next game. Preparation is not the owners job or even the GM's, Jerry thinks he can do it all for this team to include coach it and I don't think he allows the coaches to make the decisions they should be making.

 

[1942willys]

And I don't disagree the buck has to stop with him. In the real world Jerry the GM would have been fired more than a decade ago.

IN virtually every other NFL team Jerry would have been fired twenty years ago

 

[1942willys]

Actually, I’m a season ticket holder and always sell my tickets(to other Cowboys fans) so Jerry may make some money off me but I make money off him too. No way in hell I’m paying to go watch this country club team in person. When I see a real team that is hungry and coached right, I will go to the games. Otherwise, I’m going to make money off of this fake team owned by an ego maniac who only cares about himself. Instead of us blaming players and coaches all we should do is blame the owner since it’s all his fault anyway.

You are too kind as regards Jerry

 

[ufcrules1]

You are too kind as regards Jerry

Way way way too kind. He is 100% the problem here in Dallas for the last 28 years. He is ruining the team we all love. But at the end of the day, it’s a business for him. Is he still making bank year after year? Well, that’s what really matters to him. It it wasn’t he would have hired a GM and real coach a long time ago and stayed out of their way.

 

[Cowboys5217]

And I don't disagree the buck has to stop with him. In the real world Jerry the GM would have been fired more than a decade ago.

He would have never been hired by any team he didn't own to be GM. His qualifications to be a GM were no better than you or I.

 

[plymkr]

Find a ballhawking FS and an unblockable 3 tech. Don't overdraft TE's in the 2nd round. Don't go into the season w/ no LB's and no starting quality 3 techs and RBs'. Have better backups at OL.

Hey, Jerry insists on this job. His job is to form a super bowl contender. Having some good players that are being sabotaged w/ glaring weaknesses is what makes him a bad GM.

Well said

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

"The Associated Press released its NFL All-Pro teams on Friday morning, and nine players from the Dallas Cowboys landed on the two teams with CeeDee Lamb, DaRon Bland, Zack Martin and Brandon Aubrey earning first-team honors and Dak Prescott, Tyron Smith, Tyler Smith, Micah Parsons and Bryan Anger earning second-team."

So, if Jerry as GM is fielding a team of All-Pros, and he hired a "proven" defensive coordinator (Quinn) and a Superbowl-winning coach (McCarthy), in recent years, what is he doing so egregiously wrong?

Sure, he's the face of the franchise unlike other owners, but in some ways, that should be a good thing...syphoning unnecessary media attention away from the players.

And no, all of his decisions haven't panned out, but that's for every owner. Hec, many people take 1st-round QBs who become busts. Way more busts than success.

So, I ask the honest question (also asking myself because I crap all over Jerry Jones too when given the chance), what more can he do?

Yes, I think this team is overrated, but the pundits and others always tell me this team has one of the most talented rosters in the league, backed up by 9 All-Pro players, so I guess I'm wrong.

But if this team IS truly talented, and Jerry hired seasoned coaches to get this team over the top, can we really blame Jerry for all the team's woes as of late?

yes, its his fault. 4 players had pep rally party. two players planned victory party....

they all should have been doing extra film study. extra preparation instead of taking it for granted.

its the NFL. its the playoffs. better be ready. they drank their own koolaid. they took things for granted. they weren't ready. the shame of it is, I thought they got that out of their system after the bills game. but apprantley stupid teams do stupid stuff. we weren't prepared for this game. it showed

 

[Londonboy]

Let's hold a seance and ask Eisenhower.

 

[BLEU3ASY]

if you’ve been a Dallas fan as long as I have you’ll already know Jerry hasn’t REALLY gotten a return on his investments.. Jerry just wants to win championships, that’s the ultimate goal for every team. With the amount of money he’s spent on players over the years he should definitely have more than 5 rings. I don’t get how he’s always the blame.. easy target I guess.