Is John Beck The QB We Should Target In The Draft ?

[Bob Sacamano]

what about Rascati or Zabranski

nice

we don't even have to draft a QB, we can just pick up Justin Rascati as a UFA

transfer from Louisville, a career 66% passer, a threat w/ both his arms and his legs

 

[FLcowboy]

We need to draft one, the more I hear about this guy, the more I like him. He can probably be had in the third round, I figure the fourth will be too late. With all the draft picks we have, we should be able to pull this off one way or another. He's durable, mature, smart and accurate. A liitle "old" at 26 years old come August, but what the heck. I say he has as much potential as any rookie out there, including Russell & Quinn. Thoughts?

If he were to take 4 years to develop, that would really be old for a rookie, and hardley enough time for him to get a monster contract.

 

[Big Dakota]

Why do we need a Qb??? answer that for me, I mean we need to get a O-lineman, Rb if we trade Jones, Safety, maybe Corner, and wide reciever. So why a qb???

Ask Stephen Jones, he said the other day we'd draft one. Besides, we have 10 oicks. Can't fit one in somewhere?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Funny how people view Beck. I watch Beck and I see a guy with the same kind of potential as Romo.

I think Stanton has more ability but Beck will probably be ready to play sooner. I think Beck is going to surprise some people.

 

[lkelly]

Unless a highly rated guy absolutely falls into our laps in rounds 1-3, I'd rather wait until the 5th-7th round to draft a developmental QB. If that doesn't happen, bring in a few bodies as free agents and see if you can shake out another Romo. Dallas really should get a starter in all rounds on the first day. And if not a starter, a guy they plan on starting in 2008 (i.e. a WR, RB, DL, or OL).

 

[philo beddoe]

nice

we don't even have to draft a QB, we can just pick up Justin Rascati as a UFA

transfer from Louisville, a career 66% passer, a threat w/ both his arms and his legs

You're probably right.

 

[philo beddoe]

I just hope we're the ones smart enough to land Beck. Very, very smart player. He's definitely going to make it.

 

[philo beddoe]

I say we draft the guy in the third round. Who agrees? A steal if it's in the fourth.

 

[silverbear]

So, what does everyone think? Third round draft pick, perhaps?

More like a 5th or even a 6th... and that's after his stock rose at the Combine...

NFLDraftCountdown has him rated a late round/ free agent type, their 9th best QB overall... if he IS 9th best, that would work out to around a 5th round pick most years...

The Draft Class website has him rated 8th, Football's Future rates him 10th... OTOH, Fox Sports website rates him 4th, and does project him as a 3rd rounder... most boards seem to have him in the 8 to 10 range, but on a coupla occasions, he was rated as high as 4th...

But since I find NFLDraftCountdown to be the best draft website out there, and since the consensus of most websites seems to rate him about the same, I rate him a 5th or 6th rounder...

In spite of his age, which will certainly work against him for most teams, I'd be content if the Boys snagged him in the 5th... what I've read about him, sounds a lot like what I remember of Jason Garrett's game when he was with the Boys... IOW, I think he might make a nice little backup QB a couple-three years down the line...

I'd still prefer Jordan Palmer, who ought to go in that range, or a BIT earlier... but I freely admit I'm biased on that one...

 

[dalboy]

We need a QB to back up Romo for the next 4-7 years. Brad Johnson certainly isn't going to do it. I'd also like someone in place just in case the clock strickes 12 on Romo next season. Beck might go a little high for us. I doubt we'd go QB until at least the 5th.

Than why did we sign Johnson, we we could have got Ramsey,Harrington, or someone else who can to that or did we just waist money again.

 

[silverbear]

what about Rascati or Zabranski

I live 20 minutes from James Madison University, all I read about in the local papers is Rascati, and his running back/partner in crime Alvin Banks... the two were at the heart of the Dukes' national championship in 2004...

Rascati didn't put up gaudy stats, but he was very efficient as a QB... the Dukes didn't throw the ball a lot, he averaged like 17.5 attempts per game over the course of his college career... but he completed 66.6 per cent of his passes, threw almost 3 TDs for every int (52 to 18), and averaged over 8 yards per attempt and 12 yards per completion (indicating he wasn't throwing a ton of dumpoff type passes)...

He was also a threat to run, even though his 40 times are in the 4.75-4.8 range... he gained 1200 yards his last 3 seasons, on 335 carries, and scored 20 TDs rushing... remember, in the NCAA they count sacks as minus rushing yardage, and Rascati had 370 yards lost rushing over those 3 seasons... that's probably about 60 sacks, meaning he had 1570 yards rushing on 275 carries if they figured rushing stats the way the NFL does... that's a 5.7 yards per carry average...

So, he's an efficient passer, can run some (thought admittedly, he won't be as big a running threat in the faster NFL), and has led his team to a national championship...

Good call, Biggems...

 

[philo beddoe]

I live 20 minutes from James Madison University, all I read about in the local papers is Rascati, and his running back/partner in crime Alvin Banks... the two were at the heart of the Dukes' national championship in 2004...

Rascati didn't put up gaudy stats, but he was very efficient as a QB... the Dukes didn't throw the ball a lot, he averaged like 17.5 attempts per game over the course of his college career... but he completed 66.6 per cent of his passes, threw almost 3 TDs for every int (52 to 18), and averaged over 8 yards per attempt and 12 yards per completion (indicating he wasn't throwing a ton of dumpoff type passes)...

He was also a threat to run, even though his 40 times are in the 4.75-4.8 range... he gained 1200 yards his last 3 seasons, on 335 carries, and scored 20 TDs rushing... remember, in the NCAA they count sacks as minus rushing yardage, and Rascati had 370 yards lost rushing over those 3 seasons... that's probably about 60 sacks, meaning he had 1570 yards rushing on 275 carries if they figured rushing stats the way the NFL does... that's a 5.7 yards per carry average...

So, he's an efficient passer, can run some (thought admittedly, he won't be as big a running threat in the faster NFL), and has led his team to a national championship...

Good call, Biggems...

He'd be an interesting UDFA, for sure.

 

[philo beddoe]

More like a 5th or even a 6th... and that's after his stock rose at the Combine...

NFLDraftCountdown has him rated a late round/ free agent type, their 9th best QB overall... if he IS 9th best, that would work out to around a 5th round pick most years...

The Draft Class website has him rated 8th, Football's Future rates him 10th... OTOH, Fox Sports website rates him 4th, and does project him as a 3rd rounder... most boards seem to have him in the 8 to 10 range, but on a coupla occasions, he was rated as high as 4th...

But since I find NFLDraftCountdown to be the best draft website out there, and since the consensus of most websites seems to rate him about the same, I rate him a 5th or 6th rounder...

In spite of his age, which will certainly work against him for most teams, I'd be content if the Boys snagged him in the 5th... what I've read about him, sounds a lot like what I remember of Jason Garrett's game when he was with the Boys... IOW, I think he might make a nice little backup QB a couple-three years down the line...

I'd still prefer Jordan Palmer, who ought to go in that range, or a BIT earlier... but I freely admit I'm biased on that one...

Beck will be long gone by the fourth round.

 

[EPL0c0]

Jordan Palmer should be there day 2.

 

[silverbear]

Jordan Palmer should be there day 2.

I figure him for 4th or 5th round now...

 

[silverbear]

Beck will be long gone by the fourth round.

Well, we know your OPINION; now, got any FACTS to back it up??

I offered you the documentation of how I came to my opinion of his draft worth...

You should probably be rooting for me to be right, 'cause there ain't a chance in Hades the Boys will draft a quarterback on the first day...

Count on it...

 

[EPL0c0]

the 2006 season was not kind to Palmer. His improvements were once again overshadowed by the INTs. He did play smarter. He also played a very weak offensive line. In a single-back formation, not having a good line = death. He faced lots of 2nd and 3rd and longs because of the lack of a run game.

 

[Yeagermeister]

No thanks too any qb that couldn't beat my pitiful Memphis Tigers last year

 

[TheProphet]

I live 20 minutes from James Madison University, all I read about in the local papers is Rascati, and his running back/partner in crime Alvin Banks... the two were at the heart of the Dukes' national championship in 2004...

Rascati didn't put up gaudy stats, but he was very efficient as a QB... the Dukes didn't throw the ball a lot, he averaged like 17.5 attempts per game over the course of his college career... but he completed 66.6 per cent of his passes, threw almost 3 TDs for every int (52 to 18), and averaged over 8 yards per attempt and 12 yards per completion (indicating he wasn't throwing a ton of dumpoff type passes)...

He was also a threat to run, even though his 40 times are in the 4.75-4.8 range... he gained 1200 yards his last 3 seasons, on 335 carries, and scored 20 TDs rushing... remember, in the NCAA they count sacks as minus rushing yardage, and Rascati had 370 yards lost rushing over those 3 seasons... that's probably about 60 sacks, meaning he had 1570 yards rushing on 275 carries if they figured rushing stats the way the NFL does... that's a 5.7 yards per carry average...

So, he's an efficient passer, can run some (thought admittedly, he won't be as big a running threat in the faster NFL), and has led his team to a national championship...

Good call, Biggems...

I've followed Rascati for the past 3 years my friend. He'll land in the NFL...probably as a FA. He's somewhat similar to Romo.
Another Virginian to watch develop is Lang Campbell, a grad of William and Mary a couple of years ago. He's already been drafted by the Browns I believe. Lots of talent.
Where abouts you hail from around Harrisonburg MightyBear? Weyers Cave? Verona? New Market? Bridgewater? As you can see I know the Valley area like the back of my hand.

 

[tomson75]

I live 20 minutes from James Madison University, all I read about in the local papers is Rascati, and his running back/partner in crime Alvin Banks... the two were at the heart of the Dukes' national championship in 2004...

Rascati didn't put up gaudy stats, but he was very efficient as a QB... the Dukes didn't throw the ball a lot, he averaged like 17.5 attempts per game over the course of his college career... but he completed 66.6 per cent of his passes, threw almost 3 TDs for every int (52 to 18), and averaged over 8 yards per attempt and 12 yards per completion (indicating he wasn't throwing a ton of dumpoff type passes)...

He was also a threat to run, even though his 40 times are in the 4.75-4.8 range... he gained 1200 yards his last 3 seasons, on 335 carries, and scored 20 TDs rushing... remember, in the NCAA they count sacks as minus rushing yardage, and Rascati had 370 yards lost rushing over those 3 seasons... that's probably about 60 sacks, meaning he had 1570 yards rushing on 275 carries if they figured rushing stats the way the NFL does... that's a 5.7 yards per carry average...

So, he's an efficient passer, can run some (thought admittedly, he won't be as big a running threat in the faster NFL), and has led his team to a national championship...

Good call, Biggems...

As a former JMU student, and a current Harrisonburg resident, I've been unlucky enough to have been witness to nearly every JMU game in the past ten years. In that time I've seen one player with the ability to secure a career in the NFL...Macey Brooks was drafted by own own beloved Cowboys in the fourth round of the 1997? draft (IIRC). He was a man among boys at JMU...and his transition to the NFL was very slow. A broken leg essentially ended any hopes of him sticking it out. Unfortunate.

I like Rascati, don't get me wrong, but he doesn't have the talent to make it in the NFL IMO. JMU has had a very good TEAM for the past three seasons (a team good enough to elevate the stock of its QB), but thats at a level that I could have played at (i.e. not very good). His transition to the NFL would be near impossible. I'm not saying there aren't DivI AA players out there that can become good NFL players, as history has clearly proven, but that those select few tend to contrast sharply to the talent surrounding them. Occasionaly you can fid those late bloomers as well...see Demarcus Ware (or had Troy already become Div I A?). But anyway...

As a JMU fan (purely through association as I despise the school colors enough to revolt), I hope he gets picked up by someone whether it be via the draft or UFA. As a cowboys fan, I hope its not us that does so.