Is Kiffin going to be here next year?

[JustAGuy]

To be brutally honest he should have been fired last Monday. The defense is on pace to be the worst ever for passing, and is currently 32 overall. Not acceptable even with scheme change and injuries. 11 guys out of the stands should do better than this.

 

[iceberg]

To be brutally honest he should have been fired last Monday. The defense is on pace to be the worst ever for passing, and is currently 32 overall. Not acceptable even with scheme change and injuries. 11 guys out of the stands should do better than this.

to be brutally honest, the IGS (instant gratification society) needs to **** and learn patience.

 

[beevomav]

To be brutally honest he should have been fired last Monday. The defense is on pace to be the worst ever for passing, and is currently 32 overall. Not acceptable even with scheme change and injuries. 11 guys out of the stands should do better than this.

You can't play defense without a pass rush, and the Cowboys have one guy who can play. Jason Hatcher and a bunch of guys from other teams practice squads or a couch is not going to work in this league.

 

[Fansince64]

If JG is still here, so is kiffen. If we hire a new HC not named lovie or gruden he will be gone. He will want to hire his own staff.

This will have no bearing. Nada, none, zilch. No head coach since Jimmy has gotten to hire their own staff.

 

[birdwells1]

What are Lovie's strong points in terms of coaching?

He doesn't have a persona that will outshine Jerry's. That's criteria #1 for this HCing job.

 

[iceberg]

good god my ignore list grows by leaps and bounds.

 

[kevm3]

Firing Kiffen will solve the problem as much as firing Rob Ryan solved the problem.

 

[BigStar]

I don't think he will be. I know that we switched schemes and all but the D has had a big hand in giving away games at the end. The only positive is takeaways and that hasn't proved to help all that much. I know this has been said a million times but I think our D is too talented to be the worst in the league. I still think Carr is a great corner and Mo can be. We have good LB's and decent DB's. We just need more pressure on the QB to allow our corners to shine. Maybe Kiffin gets another year but I think his D is dated and he's run out of ideas. Who would we replace him with? Could Marinelli do better? Think about what our record would be if we had a couple of studs to rush the QB and lineman who could actually push? We need Crawford back and a good draft. I guess I'm trying to find something to look forward to. lol

I'd look to retain Marinelli as the DC and allow a 4-3 D with a little more emphasis on pressure and man defense to coincide with our investments in Carr and Claiborne.

 

[Sarge]

I've seen enough. This is a PASSING league - care to guess where we sit win pass defense?

 

[XDez88BeastX]

What do you base this on? The coaching staff he picked in Chicago helped guide the Bears to multiple winning seasons including a SB appearance. Second, there are not many offensive masterminds that can make Rex Grossman, Kyle Orton and yes Jay Cutler look like John Elway.

Dude has no emotion or creativity, I live near chicago I've had to sit through many of bears games. Just wait I hope he comes to Dallas & then you all will feel real stupid unless we get a solid OC which I doubt, Lovie will probably just keep his boy Billy. Everything will look exactly the same except worse drafting. Same players same coaches, same nice guy players head coach.

 

[Alexander]

Dude has no emotion or creativity, I live near chicago I've had to sit through many of bears games. Just wait I hope he comes to Dallas & then you all will feel real stupid unless we get a solid OC which I doubt, Lovie will probably just keep his boy Billy. Everything will look exactly the same except worse drafting. Same players same coaches, same nice guy players head coach.

Smith is like a lot of coaches that are not well rounded. He clearly preferred the defense and it showed. His inability to find a good offensive coordinator was his downfall. In many ways, he is very much like Jason Garrett. He swung from Terry Shea to Ron Turner then made a Rob Ryan-like hire in Mike Martz, then to Tice. The wild personality changes from coach to coach brought a lot of instability.

 

[jobberone]

I've seen enough. This is a PASSING league - care to guess where we sit win pass defense?

Hmmmmm. SWAG here. Last????

 

[starfrombirth]

I don't think he will be. I know that we switched schemes and all but the D has had a big hand in giving away games at the end. The only positive is takeaways and that hasn't proved to help all that much. I know this has been said a million times but I think our D is too talented to be the worst in the league. I still think Carr is a great corner and Mo can be. We have good LB's and decent DB's. We just need more pressure on the QB to allow our corners to shine. Maybe Kiffin gets another year but I think his D is dated and he's run out of ideas. Who would we replace him with? Could Marinelli do better? Think about what our record would be if we had a couple of studs to rush the QB and lineman who could actually push? We need Crawford back and a good draft. I guess I'm trying to find something to look forward to. lol

I wouldn't count on Crawford coming back and being great. He wasn't great to begin with. He was going to be a rotation guy and then he blows his Achilles (I think). Even if it's (just) an ACL, you don't come back at full strength unless your name is Adrian Peterson.

 

[starfrombirth]

If not, hopefully Marinelli is, he brings some knowledge that this team hasn't had since Parcells.Love Kiffen too, the job they've done with the lack of talent Dallas has is admirable to say the least. The ones who can't see that is a compliment to the Staff, outside Lee and Ware this D is almost totally VOID of real NFL up to speed players.

Add Carr to that list please

 

[jobberone]

Add Carr to that list please

Why? Because he can't cover the greatest WR I've ever seen by himself without a good pass rush?? Take him out back and beat the crap out of him.

 

[starfrombirth]

Kiffin: Ernie help me to the locker room my hemorrhoids are acting up. I have a couple the size of walnuts plus I have no control over my bladder I just peed.

Wow! Kiff's not small. I had no idea that he was that big!

 

[starfrombirth]

Why? Because he can't cover the greatest WR I've ever seen by himself without a good pass rush?? Take him out back and beat the crap out of him.

I meant on the good list.... sorry if that was... misunderstood.

 

[jobberone]

I meant on the good list.... sorry if that was... misunderstood.

That was my bad. Sorry. Actually I've never been that high on Carr but he hasn't been used to his strengths for the most part either. He could be a solid back if used correctly. He's too slow for my tastes, doesn't have much quicks, but plays reasonably smart. We should never have paid him that much. Another Jerry senior moment I guess although most likely one borne of some desperation, poor scouting and mostly being forced to play a scheme he's not best suited to.

 

[starfrombirth]

That was my bad. Sorry. Actually I've never been that high on Carr but he hasn't been used to his strengths for the most part either. He could be a solid back if used correctly. He's too slow for my tastes, doesn't have much quicks, but plays reasonably smart. We should never have paid him that much. Another Jerry senior moment I guess although most likely one borne of some desperation, poor scouting and mostly being forced to play a scheme he's not best suited to.

I don't agree.. except maybe for the money but that's another topic. Carr has been great, borderline elite shutdown for most of this year and the only truly reliable corner we've had since long before he got here. I do agree that they haven't been using him to his strengths but I think they're changing that. It looks more and more like they are moving to a man - cover2 zone. I'm not an expert x's and o's guy but that is what it looks like to me. Carr and Claiborne playing man and the rest of the guys playing zone/cover 2.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Based on our performance so far, I really hope he does stay here next year.

The defense looks much more sound defensively than it did under Ryan. It also plays much faster and much more downhill. I like what I've seen out of Wilcox and Heath with safety being our biggest issue over the years. I don't like Church, but Kiffin wasn't here when he got the big contact extension.

Lee is still Lee and I like what I've seen from Carter since he came back from the benching. He did miss on Durant, but SAM backer isn't a large part of the system and we got Durant for fish heads and rice, anyway. And the D-Line has played well despite having 4 key players injured.

Even Claiborne has improved (again, not somebody he picked either). And the concern that he couldn't stop the read-option was put to rest when he held the Commanders and Eagles to a combined 19 points.

Lastly, look at his Tampa defenses, he had a so-so first season with the team and then had a killer 2nd season.

Here's a look at the Bucs defensive rankings according to Football Outsiders:

1995 (pre-Kiffin): 18th
1996 (Kiffin): 16th
1997: 9th
1998: 7th
1999: 2nd

And the turnovers HAVE helped tremendously. We lose those games without them. And we should have beaten the Lions BECAUSE of those turnovers, but the offense could not capitalize.

I'm not a fan of switching out coaches and schemes if the coach is a good one. Continuity and good coaching breeds eventual success. So as far as I'm concerned....at *this point in time*...I hope they bring him back.





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