Is Murray fiddling while two teams "burn?"

[TwoCentPlain]

Murray got paid. Mission accomplished. I felt like Murray really didn't want to leave but chose the highest salary he was offered. When he signed, I thought he would last two years and the Eagles would dump him. In hindsight, he should have chosen Jacksonville (assuming he had a decent offer from them). IIRC, I also think Murray was blindsided with the Matthews signing so soon after Murray signed. That made absolutely no sense and had to worry Murray.

So far, it sure looks like Murray is not a fit in Philly. The major problem for Muray is that he now has a bullseye on his back because of his high salary. He might be a candidate for take a pay cut or be cut starting next year.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Romo is getting older and he has been beat up. But that guy is tough. He's played through some injuries and I'm hoping they do draft a QB. I still think he's got a couple of really good years left. It sucks that they lost their 2 best players on offense but they still got some guys that can make plays. I also think The O-Line is going to get back into it's groove. They haven't been their best to start the season but I think they get rolling and so will Randle and McFadden behind it

Agreed. I think the O-line has done some good things, but isn't back into it's 2014 form yet, but it will get there. We are still winning the time of possession battle, and it will be critically important to keep that up now that both Romo and Dez are out. I'm also encouraged by the improvement of our defense. Weeden doesn't have to be Romo or any elite quarterback. He needs to be a Trent Dilfer who can make some plays and get the ball to our talent without screwing things up.

 

[DallasEast]

Dang until this bold silliness I was right with you. He has to have a team to goto that he likes also.

He didn't like the Eagles? Where was this rumored or reported?

Regardless, I will not argue the point since I myself only have unsubstantiated rumors to back up my contention. Free agency started March 10. ESPN's Adam Caplan reported on or before that day "mutual interest had developed between Murray and Philadelphia:

http://www.csnphilly.com/football-p...s-running-back-demarco-murray-nfl-free-agency

No one was quoted, so verification of the rumor was nonexistent. Still, Murray did sign with the Eagles, which makes the likelihood of the story plausible.

Heck if didn't want to goto a team whee he would definitely stink and neither would you, me, anybody else. That makes no sense at all to say that.

Please do not group me with you or others. Our values may not be mutually shared. My sense of loyalty may not be the same as yours. How I value income, wants and needs may not be the same also. Me? I invest in tangibles and love people and places that make me happy. I would have haggled for the best deal Dallas offered. Lost opportunity cost of approximately $2 million may be unthinkable for you. I respect that but your opinion does not define my sense of necessity.
http://www.csnphilly.com/football-p...s-running-back-demarco-murray-nfl-free-agency

He wasn't stalling he was looking for a good situation that payed him what he thought he was worth and I don't blame him. We'd do the same thing but now that he's on the Eagles its whatever honestly unless he playing us even though I have no ill will towards him at all.

Again, I have no proof of Murray's stalling. I do believe he did extend negotiations with the Cowboys seeking a max deal. I knew last year when he was racking up historic rushing numbers that he would not get a Lesean McCoy type deal out of Dallas. The front office had demonstrated fiscal responsibility with the salary cap enough times for me to foresee the extreme possibility of that ever happening. Perhaps Murray and/or his agent did not. Who knows?

 

[manster4ever]

I believe the Eagles, Murray and the Cowboys all are wishing Chip Kelly didn't get involved at this point.

While Murray has not produced in Philly so far i do have to admit that I wish he was still our back. He is a very good player and if we would be better off with him. His style is better suited for our offense.

Damn straight....great post!

 

[DallasEast]

DE I would agree with you if there were actually good options available. It's not like Matt Forte, Adrian Peterson, and Arian Foster were all available and we passed on them trying to get Murray.

Speaking of Foster - if that guy could pass a physical I would call Houston just to see what they'd want for him.

I was thinking of undrafted free agents at the time like Frank Gore and Justin Forsett. Truthfully, your trio would've been stronger choices but I never gave them any thought for the aforementioned reason. In particular, Peterson was always a pipe dream in my opinion. I agree. Foster would be a strong get if he were healthy.

 

[Corso]

Pretty much just confirmed that you don't watch the games, slugger.

Yes he does, like I said in another thread the other day.
He's the guy in the corner of the bar, drinking his dark beer and taking mental notes while cruising the threads here on his phone.
He looks up every once in awhile when he hears cheering, but he has a job to do:
It's all about the Likes baby!

 

[JoeBoBBY]

He's getting old and they are starting to put too much on him. He was starting to do too much himself.. It just seems like we were reverting to our old pass happy ways and it bit us in the butt.. Gotta get back to the run game and stick with it even when it seems to not be working...

Yup;

I posted in the game thread, before Romo got hurt, that he was taking way to many "hits and pokes" every other play....

 

[DallasEast]

Yes he does, like I said in another thread the other day.
He's the guy in the corner of the bar, drinking his dark beer and taking mental notes while cruising the threads here on his phone.
He looks up every once in awhile when he hears cheering, but he has a job to do:
It's all about the Likes baby!

I'm not sure how safe it is to make fun of Risen Star's football knowledge.

If I were you guys, I would steer clear of bowling alleys for awhile...

 

[Corso]

I'm not sure how safe it is to make fun of Risen Star's football knowledge.

If I were you guys, I would steer clear of bowling alleys for awhile...

Don't worry. We can settle it with a good dust up.

 

[DallasEast]

Don't worry. We can settle it with a good dust up.

Don't get mad at me if I put money down on RS. Never underestimated the bludgeoning power of a bowling pin.

 

[Corso]

Don't get mad at me if I put money down on RS. Never underestimated the bludgeoning power of a bowling pin.

Yeah, you're right. I saw him the other night he was pretty intimidating...

 

[black label]

I have a better idea. Lets trade for Christine Michaels and not play him to save a 7th rounder.
ps McOstrich is garbage.

 

[FLCowboyFan]

Often, people overlay their personal norms, values, morals, etc. onto others. In Murray's case, some people believe Dallas offered him enough to stay. That determination is made because they read or hear an offered contract amount and weigh that amount against their self-perception of what is satisfactory for themselves.

Unfortunately, the world is materialistic. It is typical for people to desire more than less. Murray was confronted with a possible finite choice: a) get paid the most now or b) settle for less and possibly never see that much money again. The current Cowboys management (which is another factor some people apply their personal reasoning upon also) did not wish to fulfill the first option, so Murray opted for the second choice. Murray did what is typical. It is atypical for people, especially professional athletes, to willingly choose the second option.

Personally, my issue with Murray remains the same now as it was last spring. The writing was on the wall. Dallas had demonstrated flexibility during the contract negotiations but not to the point they would ever fold and hand Murray what he expected. Murray should have signed elsewhere on the first day free agency opened, not several days into it. His rigid stalling ultimately restricted Dallas' free agent choices to Darren McFadden. In my opinion, Murray screwed his old team more than his new team or himself.

He also said in an article leading up to the game that he was gone as soon as they let him reach free agency. He said he wasn't even open to them matching the contract. That tells me what kind of guy he is. 100% about himself.

 

[Zekeats]

Wow, you posted this video for the 603rd time with no input of your own.

 

[Boyz981]

He barely got touched against the Giants and needed a shot to play the next week. He didn't take many hits against the Eagles and he's now out with a broken collarbone. He's breaking down physically.

Someone needs to shake the Jones twins. Our QB situation will be dire very soon.

What!! LOL

 

[black label]

Wow, you posted this video for the 603rd time with no input of your own.

 

[DandyDon52]

This. The move was good for Murray's bank account and little else. Dallas and Philadelphia are both worse off for the move.

yeah you said that good!
Even if they cut murray now he would still get the 20 mil G ?
But it is obvious without a decent line and run blocking schemes, murray is of no value to them at all.
Neither is matthews.
I bet even murray is now thinking he made a boo boo.

 

[manster4ever]

[quote="Risen Star, post: 6286898, member: 5331"]He barely got touched against the Giants and needed a shot to play the next week. He didn't take many hits against the Eagles and he's now out with a broken collarbone. He's breaking down physically.

Someone needs to shake the Jones twins. Our QB situation will be dire very soon.

Ummm.... he got smashed in the back... twice. [/quote]

yep....he got NAILED on an INT near the sideline but the one play I thought he really tweaked his back on was the longer fumble return by the sidelines. The Giants DB juked him and he tried to change direction to make the tackle and it didn't look good at all. Well, sadly he has 8 weeks off to get healthy now. Heck yes he's breaking down...that's not a news flash. Any NFL QB that makes it to his age does break down. Matter of fact, most don't make it to his age.

 

[Philmonroe]

He didn't like the Eagles? Where was this rumored or reported?

Regardless, I will not argue the point since I myself only have unsubstantiated rumors to back up my contention. Free agency started March 10. ESPN's Adam Caplan reported on or before that day "mutual interest had developed between Murray and Philadelphia:

http://www.csnphilly.com/football-p...s-running-back-demarco-murray-nfl-free-agency

No one was quoted, so verification of the rumor was nonexistent. Still, Murray did sign with the Eagles, which makes the likelihood of the story plausible.Please do not group me with you or others. Our values may not be mutually shared. My sense of loyalty may not be the same as yours. How I value income, wants and needs may not be the same also. Me? I invest in tangibles and love people and places that make me happy. I would have haggled for the best deal Dallas offered. Lost opportunity cost of approximately $2 million may be unthinkable for you. I respect that but your opinion does not define my sense of necessity.
Again, I have no proof of Murray's stalling. I do believe he did extend negotiations with the Cowboys seeking a max deal. I knew last year when he was racking up historic rushing numbers that he would not get a Lesean McCoy type deal out of Dallas. The front office had demonstrated fiscal responsibility with the salary cap enough times for me to foresee the extreme possibility of that ever happening. Perhaps Murray and/or his agent did not. Who knows?

Regarding bold until you show me proof you've turned down millions to be "happy" I'm going to group you with everybody else sorry. Also no need to give me a constitution size run down on the obvious not knowing all that stuff about you. Who said I did? I'm just generalizing and unless like I said there is prof of,you turning down that type of money I feel confident in my generalization on this topic for the vast majority of people I'm this world.

Of course he wanted to stay who said he didn't? Also who said he didn't like the Eagles? Don't let your emotions get you to saying things that were never said by anybody in this thread. I was talking about him turning down offers from teams like Oakland and Jacksonville about not liking teams

 

[Joe_Fan]

He's getting old and they are starting to put too much on him. He was starting to do too much himself.. It just seems like we were reverting to our old pass happy ways and it bit us in the butt.. Gotta get back to the run game and stick with it even when it seems to not be working...

Exactly. We put way too much on him which is why I wanted us to get a top tier RB to help take the pressure off of him. There's no question his best season was last season and revolved around a strong running game.

That being said we abandoned the run, put way too much on Romo, and he took a beating that knocked him out for 8 weeks.

We have nobody to blame but our coaches for putting their heads in the sand on what made the team so successful last season.

Could you image what this team could be right now if we had a running game that we could rely on WITH the improved defense?

But nah, let's get another case of deja vu and lose Romo in the process.