Is Netflix Worth It?

[Idgit]

Yes. Especially right now. You can always cancel. But if you’re in-place and out of content it’s a no-brainer.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

The bright side is that most of these services let you cancel at any time. So if you don’t want to spend more than $10-20 a month on streaming services, you can always just pay for one at a time. For example, if there’s a show on Netflix you’re interested in, get Netflix for that month and watch that show. Then if there’s a show on Hulu you’re interested in, cancel Netflix and get Hulu for that month. Most people focus on one or two shows at a time anyway, so you’re usually not using all your streaming services at once. No sense paying for five services when you’re only using one.

 

[CouchCoach]

The interesting part of this streaming war is that it's taking place during an unprecedented time in our history. If they ever wanted a real test, this is it.

When all of these new streaming services were announced, and we haven't seen all of them yet Peacock and HBO Max are on the way, research was conducted about how many could make it. The magic number was 4 streamers at a top end of $40 per month. The one element of that was they didn't mention how people view a service like Amazon Prime, I view that as a bonus and HBO as well because I get that free through my cell package. And people who bought an apple product got Apple TV+ free for a year.

I still have Netflix at #1 in content and value and their model of delivering the entire season at once, along with Amazon Prime, is greatly preferred to the HBO or Apple model.

The interesting development of all of this is the accelerated model of Universal releasing a first run film, Trolls, to the home market and bypassing theaters and infuriating AMC into an Universal boycott. Universal, along with every one of the others, has been mulling this idea over for quite some time and this presented them with the test case and I think that further endangered the theater industry, which is never going to fully recover from this shut down.

We will look back on Netflix taking the chance on changing their own model as the greatest effect on entertainment and sports in modern times. This is the new model and they're still the best at it.

And if we think Amazon and Netflix aren't the fly in the ointment for TV with the NFL in this next negotiation, just watch with the money they have to spend. The gambling and streamers are the new Golden Geese for the NFL.

 

[quickccc]

They've dumped a lot of the shows they used to have but it's still pretty good.

yeh and unfortunately they had no choice with the Marvel featured shows especially Daredevil .. because of the legal battle to ownership rights with Disney.
i gotta feeling i will like Netflix handling of Marvel features more than what family oriented Disney will do with their own newly featured series . ..we'll see.

 

[DallasEast]

yeh and unfortunately they had no choice with the Marvel featured shows especially Daredevil .. because of the legal battle to ownership rights with Disney.
i gotta feeling i will like Netflix handling of Marvel features more than what family oriented Disney will do with their own newly featured series . ..we'll see.

I am uncertain how hard Disney fought for adding the characters to its streaming service. An April Forbes article stated Netflix and Marvel mutually agreed none of the Defenders characters would be used for two years after their specific series stopped airing on Netflix.

The article's author makes some good points.

• Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, The Punisher and The Defenders were all pre-Disney Plus conceived projects between Netflix and Marvel. They are all dark and have a harder edge than Disney's Plus' usual fare.
• Although audiences generally enjoyed the multiple series setting (my opinion), they were not tied into the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Their format would not necessarily gel with the MCU-based set of series like Falcon And The Winter Soldier Disney will push out.
• Disney officially hinted at the Daredevil series continuing at some point but did not acknowledge a continuance of the show with its established cast, etc.

All that leads me to believe Disney Plus may add Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist and (group team) The Defenders in the relatively near future--with all being re-tinkered to fit the MCU plotline along with all new casts. That possibility will not sit well with me initially. I enjoyed the casting, especially that of Charlie Cox, Mike Colter and Krysten Ritter, who I really REALLY liked as Jessica.

And unlike the poorly organized frazzled multi-settings of DCEU series like Supergirl, The Flash, etc., the Netflix shows (and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. for that matter) are solidly set in strongly interconnected relatable Marvel environs. They are all thoroughly rooted with common folk, dealing with the huge but smaller in scope dangers faced by people in a local area. In my opinion, I think it is unnecessary to interweave them with a pre- or post-Thanos story.

After some thought, I found myself thinking there is no way Disney Plus would adopt The Punisher. I think Disney's version of an anti-hero falls along the lines of The Mandalorian. Even though I enjoy that show's premise, it would neuter Frank Castle's character if he acted similarly. And that, in my opinion, would NOT be who The Punisher is.

Ironically, I believe the Netflix series which could transition the easiest to Disney Plus is Iron First. The show is sorta mystical in story. That fits right up Disney's usual, make-believe alley. I place the existing show's level of violence at the low end of its peers behind The Punisher, Daredevil, Luke Cage/Jessica Jones (tie), and The Defenders.

All that said, I do think it is stupid for Disney to eventually regulate all the ex-Netflix series to Hulu like the article writer assumes. Sure, it will help support Hulu's content base and that strengthens Disney since it owns Hulu. It is just sad to me turning on Disney Plus, selecting Marvel from the menu, and NOT seeing Marvel created series to choose from. Just grinds my gears...

/rant

 

[CouchCoach]

yeh and unfortunately they had no choice with the Marvel featured shows especially Daredevil .. because of the legal battle to ownership rights with Disney.
i gotta feeling i will like Netflix handling of Marvel features more than what family oriented Disney will do with their own newly featured series . ..we'll see.

I do not plan on liking their handling of The Punisher or Daredevil and don't know if they even plan on continuing those because of the darkness, which is what I like. That first Punisher was excellent.

 

[CouchCoach]

I am uncertain how hard Disney fought for adding the characters to its streaming service. An April Forbes article stated Netflix and Marvel mutually agreed none of the Defenders characters would be used for two years after their specific series stopped airing on Netflix.

The article's author makes some good points.

• Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, The Punisher and The Defenders were all pre-Disney Plus conceived projects between Netflix and Marvel. They are all dark and have a harder edge than Disney's Plus' usual fare.
• Although audiences generally enjoyed the multiple series setting (my opinion), they were not tied into the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Their format would not necessarily gel with the MCU-based set of series like Falcon And The Winter Soldier Disney will push out.
• Disney officially hinted at the Daredevil series continuing at some point but did not acknowledge a continuance of the show with its established cast, etc.

All that leads me to believe Disney Plus may add Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist and (group team) The Defenders in the relatively near future--with all being re-tinkered to fit the MCU plotline along with all new casts. That possibility will not sit well with me initially. I enjoyed the casting, especially that of Charlie Cox, Mike Colter and Krysten Ritter, who I really REALLY liked as Jessica.

And unlike the poorly organized frazzled multi-settings of DCEU series like Supergirl, The Flash, etc., the Netflix shows (and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. for that matter) are solidly set in strongly interconnected relatable Marvel environs. They are all thoroughly rooted with common folk, dealing with the huge but smaller in scope dangers faced by people in a local area. In my opinion, I think it is unnecessary to interweave them with a pre- or post-Thanos story.

After some thought, I found myself thinking there is no way Disney Plus would adopt The Punisher. I think Disney's version of an anti-hero falls along the lines of The Mandalorian. Even though I enjoy that show's premise, it would neuter Frank Castle's character if he acted similarly. And that, in my opinion, would NOT be who The Punisher is.

Ironically, I believe the Netflix series which could transition the easiest to Disney Plus is Iron First. The show is sorta mystical in story. That fits right up Disney's usual, make-believe alley. I place the existing show's level of violence at the low end of its peers behind The Punisher, Daredevil, Luke Cage/Jessica Jones (tie), and The Defenders.

All that said, I do think it is stupid for Disney to eventually regulate all the ex-Netflix series to Hulu like the article writer assumes. Sure, it will help support Hulu's content base and that strengthens Disney since it owns Hulu. It is just sad to me turning on Disney Plus, selecting Marvel from the menu, and NOT seeing Marvel created series to choose from. Just grinds my gears...

/rant

Yep, as I watched The Mandalorian, I thought how it might have been different and better if it weren't a Disney project. So many opportunities for that to spin so much darker but they can't resist making the anti-hero heroic. Shame since the sob's killed Bambi's Mom and Old Yeller, they do indeed have a dark side.

 

[1LoyalCowboyFan]

All I can say is I was one that shunned Netflix for the longest time....And then the week between xmas and New Years I finally gave in, and I love it!....I also got the ESPN+/Disney+/Hulu package, I dont like it quite as much although Disney+ was great for The Mandalorian....Hulu sucks, it still has ads.....

We pay for the no ads on Hulu for $22. It’s Worth it. What I like is the profiles on these things just share accounts and costs if you wish with family or people you trust. I have T-Mobile and Netflix is free with them, for HD I pay 2.99 a month.

Prime Video, Disney plus, Netflix, Hulu With Showtime, and HBO. We swap Hulu for HBO with family. Amazon’s prime is free in my eyes because who isn’t an amazon prime member.

So $33 total. Never had cable. Big fan of Apple 4K device with HDR to watch them all.

 

[DallasEast]

Yep, as I watched The Mandalorian, I thought how it might have been different and better if it weren't a Disney project. So many opportunities for that to spin so much darker but they can't resist making the anti-hero heroic. Shame since the sob's killed Bambi's Mom and Old Yeller, they do indeed have a dark side.

Do not leave out examples of Disney showing Mufasa falling to his death into a stampeding herd due to transparently premeditated murder. If the fall would not have killed him, the trampling to death by a hundred or more wilderbeast (sp?) would have. OR live action/cartoon fare seeing the villain in Who Framed Roger Rabbit slowly die, melted alive by acid. Both it and The Lion King were super successful films for Disney. oh well.

Disney has gotten too big for its own britches. Designating Hulu as its 'adult alternative' streaming service is very convenient for the behemoth. Of course I am a bit of a hypocrite. I would likely cut them more slack if Hulu's anime selection were more DUBBED than SUBBED but I am going way off track here...

 

[CouchCoach]

Do not leave out examples of Disney showing Mufasa falling to his death into a stampeding herd due to transparently premeditated murder. If the fall would not have killed him, the trampling to death by a hundred or more wilderbeast (sp?) would have. OR live action/cartoon fare seeing the villain in Who Framed Roger Rabbit slowly die, melted alive by acid. Both it and The Lion King were super successful films for Disney. oh well.

Disney has gotten too big for its own britches. Designating Hulu as its 'adult alternative' streaming service is very convenient for the behemoth. Of course I am a bit of a hypocrite. I would likely cut them more slack if Hulu's anime selection were more DUBBED than SUBBED but I am going way off track here...

I read just yesterday that Disney+ is starting slide because of the lack of product, which is why they announced that 'Hamilton" to streaming a year early. The Mandalorians, as I like to call us, aren't going to watch animations over and over like people with young kids have to do, been a great babysitter during the pandemic.

HBO Max hits in a couple of weeks and the question is will the people adding it do that or drop something as well and what's out? Doubt that Netflix gets dropped, they upped their game during this shut in.

According to the last research I saw on streaming, the average family maxes out at 4, they didn't stipulate whether they consider Amazon Prime in that, at $40 per month. There has probably been more research done on that than anything else since there's so much money at stake with ATT and Universal poised to get in the battle.

So to answer the OP again, if I could only have one, that would be Netflix. And second would be Amazon but I don't count that. Third would be HBO Max but I have HBO and don't have to add that. Apple TV+ had hoped to get some traction before the others came into the game but I haven't seen that. And I got a Roku just to have Apple TV+ and Disney and haven't spent much time with either since every time I go to Netflix, they've got something new up. I do wish they'd been able to keep the Marvel franchise and continued to build on that but I don't underestimate them to come at Disney hard.

 

[DFWJC]

yeh and unfortunately they had no choice with the Marvel featured shows especially Daredevil .. because of the legal battle to ownership rights with Disney.
i gotta feeling i will like Netflix handling of Marvel features more than what family oriented Disney will do with their own newly featured series . ..we'll see.

Netflix will certainly make Superman a transgender or bi person of color. It seems to be their focus in almost every series lately. Amusing.
But whatever.....I guess as long a the scripts are well-written.

 

[CouchCoach]

Netflix will certainly make Superman a transgender or bi person of color. It seems to be their focus in almost every series lately. Amusing.
But whatever.....I guess as long a the scripts are well-written.

Yep, no hidden agenda with their latest, Hollywood. I sat there thinking I am a dying breed, a white heterosexual male.

 

[DFWJC]

Yep, no hidden agenda with their latest, Hollywood. I sat there thinking I am a dying breed, a white heterosexual male.

It's so bizarre. They try so hard its embarrassing.
We just started a new series Wednesday. Not a MA show, just a regular show. Sitting there with my wife and 12 year old son and within a few minutes, they had already entered into their agenda. Its as if they have a bet on who can get it entered into the series the fastest. It usually takes one episode and often within minutes. Every. single. time
Pure comedy in an odd sort of way.

 

[CouchCoach]

It's so bizarre. They try so hard its embarrassing.
We just started a new series Wednesday. Not a MA show, just a regular show. Sitting there with my wife and 12 year old son and within a few minutes, they had already entered into their agenda. Its as if they have a bet on who can get it entered into the series the fastest. It usually takes one episode and often within minutes. Every. single. time
Pure comedy in an odd sort of way.

Agree and they don't get it. They're trying to make a point to people aware they're trying to make a point. The point is lost.

Schitt's Creek did a really good job, they had a point to make but they built the characters first so I was more receptive to the point. I cared about the characters first, then they made their point.

 

[Passepartout]

I have it there. But heard that Disney Plus has been on the fast track. Since they opened up just last year.

 

[CouchCoach]

I have it there. But heard that Disney Plus has been on the fast track. Since they opened up just last year.

They green lit "Hamilton" for the 4th of July, a full year early.

The problem Disney and Apple have is their model is episodic releases weekly and if they got caught with a production interruption, they're dead in the water on the new productions because they're incomplete. Netflix and Amazon with their release it a season at a time has the advantage and they're hammering product to the competition.

The analysts under projected for both of them because they assumed their share wouldn't allow for much growth and the others would make up some ground. Disney started out gangbusters but after "The Mandalorian", they've failed to capitalize on that audience. If they were as expensive as Netflix or HBO Max, they'd have some real problems with people that don't have young kids at home to keep entertained and even some of them would have to look at the ROI.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I just buy Netflix cards when I need them. That way there is no worry about canceling.

Netflix is good value for the amount of original shows and good import shows. Between Netflix and YouTube I have thought about cord cutting soon.

 

[Shunpike]

OP here.

I felt like I needed to provide an update. I got Netflix finally. Loved it. I have been on it forever. Didn't watch regular TV besides news channels. Can't believe I didn't have it so far.

Thanks folks for telling me to get it.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

OP here.

I felt like I needed to provide an update. I got Netflix finally. Loved it. I have been on it forever. Didn't watch regular TV besides news channels. Can't believe I didn't have it so far.

Thanks folks for telling me to get it.

Ozarks
Mindhunters
Money Heist

Just a few shows to put on your list

 

[Runwildboys]

Ozarks
Mindhunters
Money Heist

Just a few shows to put on your list

Stranger Things
Into the Badlands