Is Romo in the "2 years" phase of his career?

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No issue with drafting a QB but think Romo is playing his best. I don't see decline in his play what so ever. As for the injury, tell you what go out and have some big guy drive your shoulder into the ground and see how that works out for you. Nothing brittle about Romo
 

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NFL QBs typically have a 2 year decline in ability at the end of their careers. Its amazing how often this occurs. The clever ones recognise when they are in 'year 1' and dont come back for 'year 2'.

Symptoms of being in this phase of career include;

- not being able to practice every day.
- regular injuries.
- putting on weight, looking softer.
- not as consistent.
- showing some signs of deminished abilities.

Personally, I think Romo is in year 1 of this decline. Still able to play well, but showing signs. Next year he won't be as good and if he's still here in 2017, it will be bad for all parties.

We need to draft a QB in the first round in 2016. Otherwise we're in serious trouble. We've a good young roster capable of going all the way. Would be a shame to waste it on not preparing for the inevitable.

That's why he led the league in both QBR and passer rating last year...with a tender back no less. It's also why he was able to correctly anticipate everything the Giants threw at him in week one. Sigh...
 

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NFL QBs typically have a 2 year decline in ability at the end of their careers. Its amazing how often this occurs. The clever ones recognise when they are in 'year 1' and dont come back for 'year 2'.

Symptoms of being in this phase of career include;

- not being able to practice every day.
- regular injuries.
- putting on weight, looking softer.
- not as consistent.
- showing some signs of deminished abilities.

Personally, I think Romo is in year 1 of this decline. Still able to play well, but showing signs. Next year he won't be as good and if he's still here in 2017, it will be bad for all parties.

We need to draft a QB in the first round in 2016. Otherwise we're in serious trouble. We've a good young roster capable of going all the way. Would be a shame to waste it on not preparing for the inevitable.

Where are the signs of diminished ability or inconsistency?

I agree that we need to draft a QB next year (not in the first round) to groom to replace Romo in a few years, primarily because Romo's back issues aren't going to go away, but I don't think a broken collarbone is a sign of anything other than him being pile-drived into the ground on it while in an unprotected position.
 

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The thing that concerns me is that when you have older players, if they get injured they tend to rapidly decline in their performance. And you never know what injury can cause an older player to rapidly decline in their play. I tend to think that Romo will be fine once he recovers from a left clavicle fracture, but you never really quite know until he comes back and starts playing again.

That's the issue I have with Jerry's theory that Romo is a 'young 35.' No, Jerry....he's still 35 years old. Age is still a factor here and one injury can derail the entire thing. And I really believe that you want to sit out your future franchise QB for at least 1 year. Especially with today's college schemes which are very different from how the NFL operates. You're likely to find a talented QB in the first round that needs to make a big overhaul of throwing mechanics and that isn't going to happen as well when they are playing actual games because of the speed of the game will make them revert to their old, poor mechanics. And then they have to learn to get used to the speed of the game, understand the playbook, read coverages, read blitz packages, make precise sight adjustments and built their body to withstand the rigors of the NFL.





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The thing that concerns me is that when you have older players, if they get injured they tend to rapidly decline in their performance. And you never know what injury can cause an older player to rapidly decline in their play. I tend to think that Romo will be fine once he recovers from a left clavicle fracture, but you never really quite know until he comes back and starts playing again.

That's the issue I have with Jerry's theory that Romo is a 'young 35.' No, Jerry....he's still 35 years old. Age is still a factor here and one injury can derail the entire thing. And I really believe that you want to sit out your future franchise QB for at least 1 year. Especially with today's college schemes which are very different from how the NFL operates. You're likely to find a talented QB in the first round that needs to make a big overhaul of throwing mechanics and that isn't going to happen as well when they are playing actual games because of the speed of the game will make them revert to their old, poor mechanics. And then they have to learn to get used to the speed of the game, understand the playbook, read coverages, read blitz packages, make precise sight adjustments and built their body to withstand the rigors of the NFL.





YR

He fractured his left color bone. How would that possible have any kind of affect on his game?
 

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NFL QBs typically have a 2 year decline in ability at the end of their careers. Its amazing how often this occurs. The clever ones recognise when they are in 'year 1' and dont come back for 'year 2'.

Symptoms of being in this phase of career include;

- not being able to practice every day.
- regular injuries.
- putting on weight, looking softer.
- not as consistent.
- showing some signs of deminished abilities.

Personally, I think Romo is in year 1 of this decline. Still able to play well, but showing signs. Next year he won't be as good and if he's still here in 2017, it will be bad for all parties.

We need to draft a QB in the first round in 2016. Otherwise we're in serious trouble. We've a good young roster capable of going all the way. Would be a shame to waste it on not preparing for the inevitable.

Not as consistent? He was the highest rated QB last year, and had arguably his best season.

Showing signs of diminished ability? He was the highest rated QB last year, and had arguably his best season.

Putting on weight and looking softer is a totally subjective "symptom" to this completely fabricated 2 year decline.

Regular injuries? He broke bones. That's not injury prone. That's not the body breaking down. It's large men slamming into you. Just for the sake of backing up your claims, can you give examples of other QBs that have been hit with the 2 year decline who started getting "regular injuries?"


Don't get me wrong, we definitely need to have a replacement in the wings, based on age alone. But, not because he's declining.
 

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I wouldn't say his skills are in decline, but his health certainly is and that could have the same effect in the end. Even when Tiny recovers from the collarbone, his back could go on pretty much any hit.
 

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He fractured his left color bone. How would that possible have any kind of affect on his game?

If it heals properly, he probably shouldn't lose any velocity on his throws and he should be able to move around well.






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NFL QBs typically have a 2 year decline in ability at the end of their careers. Its amazing how often this occurs. The clever ones recognise when they are in 'year 1' and dont come back for 'year 2'.

Symptoms of being in this phase of career include;

- not being able to practice every day.
- regular injuries.
- putting on weight, looking softer.
- not as consistent.
- showing some signs of deminished abilities.

Personally, I think Romo is in year 1 of this decline. Still able to play well, but showing signs. Next year he won't be as good and if he's still here in 2017, it will be bad for all parties.

We need to draft a QB in the first round in 2016. Otherwise we're in serious trouble. We've a good young roster capable of going all the way. Would be a shame to waste it on not preparing for the inevitable.

Romo was playing as well or better than ever.

Where to people come up with the garbage? Are you and Eagles fan?
 

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His arm and head are the best I have ever seen. His back/ body (core) looks like its in decline due to injuries/operations. Just how he runs, moves and falls you see him protecting it on every play he's pushed from the pocket. Presently (before this game ) he's still effective as a top notch QB if he can stay on his feet. However every time he's hit or falls you cringe. I think if he can get back this year on his feet after he recovers, and no adverse effects on his back, he has one more year in him. The way this game is played and the way he plays, he's still not protected. You know his future quality of life is going to be rough and he'll probably never sleep or play in any physical activity without pain. He's a warrior but we're all ultimately limited and he's got to be considering his long term future.
 

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That's why he led the league in both QBR and passer rating last year...with a tender back no less. It's also why he was able to correctly anticipate everything the Giants threw at him in week one. Sigh...

The OP has a low post count. This type of post from someone with a low post count is often a sign a trolling by a fan of another team.
 
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Here is what we know. Basically zero QBs with the one notable exception of Favre for one year when (he was 40)make it to 40 without a pretty drop in capabilities.

The drop typically starts around age 35. If you look at Brees who is now 36 you could see it a very tangible way last year when he was 35.

Manning, at age 39, looks like he is at the end and this could be his last year.

With Romo we don't know. He skills, when healthy, seem fine. He is 35 years old however so that drop could begin at any time.

The team needs to start preparing.

Agreed. There are always exceptions though. And Tom Brady, at 38, looks as good as he ever has.

As for the Cowboys, I agree with those who say that it is time to draft a QB in the top 3 rounds in 2016. Maybe 2017 too.
 

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He got knocked out a couple of games last year . He's out for at least 8 weeks this year. What happens if he gets injured next year? Sooner or later the team has to look to the future. I understand wanting to get Tony the ring he deserves but the team can't forget the big picture. There are a lot of good players on this team. You can't waste their careers either by not having a franchise QB. The team has to be prepared.
 

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If it heals properly, he probably shouldn't lose any velocity on his throws and he should be able to move around well.






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I agree he should come back fine, but also like in your previous post this injury could upset the delicate synergy that is Tony Romo and without that balance things tend to wear rapidly. I hope this is not the start of his decline as he really has a good team around him. The decline is unavoidable, we are a couple of years removed from a serious conversation the way he looked in these first two games. Once again we do not know what is really happening with him, I did not know he was injected before each game for his back. Makes you imagine more things are going on than we know.
 

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Yes, Romo's got 2 years left, maybe 3. Definitely time to draft his successor and let him sit for those years so he'll be ready 2018 or 2019.
 

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Physically, Tony is in decline. I mean, it's only obvious that this is the case. He was at his physical peak at around 28 years old or so. However, his mental abilities, his ability to process information on the football field is better then it ever has been. I don't know if Tony is going to come back the same player as he was before. Maybe he doesn't, but then again, maybe he comes back even better. There is no way to tell at this point and our investment in him does not really leave room for the whole walk away option. Tony is our guy so any discussion around if he is in decline or not is wasted. For better or worse, Tony is our guy for the next few season at least. Everybody better get used to that idea.
 

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It's a fair question. There shouldn't be any doubt that the accumulation of injuries it taking a toll on Tony. At the same point, he's at the very top of his game when he's playing. Other than the back problems, the fact that he's mostly had bone-related injuries, I suppose, is a good thing. But he's not going to play forever, and when he goes, it's probably going to be because of injury and not because of his skills diminishing.

The single biggest personnel priority at this point is finding a QB of the future to develop for when we need one. That ought to be obvious to everybody, and I just hope we can have those conversations without hastening Tony into retirement or pretending that the franchise should have done it a year or so ago when we all know those earlier picks were necessary for building the team we've got. Yes, if we had an extra #1, we'd have spent it on a QB. No, we didn't have an extra first rounder, and the organization is not manned by idiots as a result. It's the NFL. It's a competitive league, with teams taking your young talent as fast as you can develop it. It's supposed to be hard to build a contender.
 
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