Is Roy Williams a liability in coverage?

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Player Team G Ints Yds LG TDs FF Rec TDs Pdef Scks SFTY Cmb Tck Solo Ast
Nnamdi Asomugha OAK 12 7 59 24 1 1 0 0 14 1 0 38 36.0 32 2
Asante Samuel NE 12 7 59 27 0 1 0 0 17 0 0 54 50.0 41 4
Rashean Mathis JAC 13 7 146 55 0 0 0 0 18 0 0 52 45.0 44 7
Champ Bailey DEN 13 6 35 30 0 0 0 0 17 0 0 71 60.0 55 11
Walt Harris SF 12 6 14 5 0 3 1 0 15 1 0 51 42.0 41 9
Kevin Kaesviharn CIN 11 6 24 22 0 1 0 0 8 3.5 0 49 37.0 33 12
Ricky Manning CHI 12 5 113 54 1 0 0 0 9 0 0 41 32.0 19 9
Lito Sheppard PHI 10 5 156 102 1 0 0 0 18 0 0 25 21.0 16 4
Sean Jones CLE 13 5 46 19 0 0 1 0 15 0.5 0 82 51.0 45 31
Charles Woodson GB 13 5 26 23 1 3 1 0 17 1 0 47 40.0 31 7
Roy Williams DAL 13 5 33 27 0 0 2 0 14 0 0 48 40.0 36 8
Charles Tillman CHI 13 5 32 13 0 1 1 1 12 0 0 69 60.0 53 9
Ed Reed BAL 13 4 33 25 1 1 0 0 8 0 1 47 40.0 34 7
Kerry Rhodes NYJ 13 4 46 25 0 3 1 0 12 4 0 88 68.0 40 20
Dwight Smith MIN 12 4 81 47 0 0 2 0 5 1 0 60 47.0 41 13
Andre Dyson NYJ 13 4 -3 0 0 0 0 0 6 0 0 57 48.0 35 9
Adrian Wilson ARI 13 4 146 99 1 3 2 1 9 4 0 70 65.0 54 5
DeAngelo Hall ATL 13 4 131 60 1 0 0 0 14 0 0 46 39.0 34 7

we expect ss to cover like a cb so here are all dbacks. roy is 3rd in ints with 14 pass def.
not bad for a cb, oh wait he's a safety.bottom line if he was great in coverage he'd be a cb not a safety. liability? not even close
 

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You might as well commission a poll asking if I'm slightly negative. Yes, he's a liability in coverage. And the sun is shiny.
 

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Roy has decent stats but I agree also, he should not be put in situations that he has to play like a Free Safety. That's just not where he is good and we all know that.....He looks lost in the secondary 90% of the time though..I don't want to just bash Roy but he is good for giving up a touchdown or big play a game. You can count on it. Sad to say but the truth hurts.... when you see him get burned next time remember it's because he's "not a free safety". :laugh1:
 

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stiletto;1231228 said:
Roy has decent stats but I agree also, he should not be put in situations that he has to play like a Free Safety. That's just not where he is good and we all know that.....He looks lost in the secondary 90% of the time though..I don't want to just bash Roy but he is good for giving up a touchdown or two a game. You can count on it. Sad to say but the truth hurts.... when you see him get burned next time remember it's because he's "not a free safety". :laugh1:


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The Homer Glasses are on I see. Williams obviously has coverage issues yet 45% of the homer..err fans don't beleive he does! :lmao2: :lmao:
 

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conner01;1231222 said:
Interceptions Fumbles Tackles
Player Team G Ints Yds LG TDs FF Rec TDs Pdef Scks SFTY Cmb Tck Solo Ast
Nnamdi Asomugha OAK 12 7 59 24 1 1 0 0 14 1 0 38 36.0 32 2
Asante Samuel NE 12 7 59 27 0 1 0 0 17 0 0 54 50.0 41 4
Rashean Mathis JAC 13 7 146 55 0 0 0 0 18 0 0 52 45.0 44 7
Champ Bailey DEN 13 6 35 30 0 0 0 0 17 0 0 71 60.0 55 11
Walt Harris SF 12 6 14 5 0 3 1 0 15 1 0 51 42.0 41 9
Kevin Kaesviharn CIN 11 6 24 22 0 1 0 0 8 3.5 0 49 37.0 33 12
Ricky Manning CHI 12 5 113 54 1 0 0 0 9 0 0 41 32.0 19 9
Lito Sheppard PHI 10 5 156 102 1 0 0 0 18 0 0 25 21.0 16 4
Sean Jones CLE 13 5 46 19 0 0 1 0 15 0.5 0 82 51.0 45 31
Charles Woodson GB 13 5 26 23 1 3 1 0 17 1 0 47 40.0 31 7
Roy Williams DAL 13 5 33 27 0 0 2 0 14 0 0 48 40.0 36 8
Charles Tillman CHI 13 5 32 13 0 1 1 1 12 0 0 69 60.0 53 9
Ed Reed BAL 13 4 33 25 1 1 0 0 8 0 1 47 40.0 34 7
Kerry Rhodes NYJ 13 4 46 25 0 3 1 0 12 4 0 88 68.0 40 20
Dwight Smith MIN 12 4 81 47 0 0 2 0 5 1 0 60 47.0 41 13
Andre Dyson NYJ 13 4 -3 0 0 0 0 0 6 0 0 57 48.0 35 9
Adrian Wilson ARI 13 4 146 99 1 3 2 1 9 4 0 70 65.0 54 5
DeAngelo Hall ATL 13 4 131 60 1 0 0 0 14 0 0 46 39.0 34 7

we expect ss to cover like a cb so here are all dbacks. roy is 3rd in ints with 14 pass def.
not bad for a cb, oh wait he's a safety.bottom line if he was great in coverage he'd be a cb not a safety. liability? not even close

wow - stats that say he's better than most.

some will still find room to critisize.
 

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nyc;1231233 said:
The Homer Glasses are on I see. Williams obviously has coverage issues yet 45% of the homer..err fans don't beleive he does! :lmao2: :lmao:

and the dunce cap is on tightly, i see.

we can do this all day long, laughing boy.
 

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bbgun;1231227 said:
You might as well commission a poll asking if I'm slightly negative. Yes, he's a liability in coverage. And the sun is shiny.

Sometimes it's shiny, sometimes it also seems to burn out each day for a few hours...
 

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iceberg;1231237 said:
and the dunce cap is on tightly, i see.

we can do this all day long, laughing boy.

Do what? Laugh at Roy's coverage skills? :D
 

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nyc;1231240 said:
Do what? Laugh at Roy's coverage skills? :D

no, make fun of each other cause we "disagree".

i'll dumb it down later if i can.
 

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Without any pass rush and give 7-9 secs to a QB will make any S look bad. Give him a decent pass rush and see how he does

nyc;1231233 said:
The Homer Glasses are on I see. Williams obviously has coverage issues yet 45% of the homer..err fans don't beleive he does! :lmao2: :lmao:
 

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:rolleyes:

this gets my vote for stupid poll of the day

31 other teams would kill for this guy

David
 

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dbair1967;1231264 said:
:rolleyes:

this gets my vote for stupid poll of the day

31 other teams would kill for this guy

David

I voted he is a liability in coverage. However, you are correct he would start for any team in the NFL.
 

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dbair1967;1231264 said:
:rolleyes:

this gets my vote for stupid poll of the day

31 other teams would kill for this guy

David

Every vote counts David. Even yours.
 

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A liability?....That's the understandment of the year.

Roy can hit, but when it comes to coverage, we may as well have Fergy back there.
 

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VA Cowboy;1231315 said:
A liability?....That's the understandment of the year.

Roy can hit, but when it comes to coverage, we may as well have Fergy back there.
wonder if fergy would be 3rd in the nfl in ints?
 

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VA Cowboy;1231315 said:
A liability?....That's the understandment of the year.

Roy can hit, but when it comes to coverage, we may as well have Fergy back there.

you people are hilarious

go watch other games and see how many times during that game you see other teams safeties get left one on one deep down field with other teams WR's..it doesnt happen alot

it happens too much here because we have stupid coaches

RW is not a liability in coverage, nor is he "bad" at it...no SS should constantly have to get stuck running 40+ yds downfield with fast WR's..in the short to intermediate areas he is pretty good in coverage

David
 

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dbair1967;1231325 said:
you people are hilarious

go watch other games and see how many times during that game you see other teams safeties get left one on one deep down field with other teams WR's..it doesnt happen alot

it happens too much here because we have stupid coaches

RW is not a liability in coverage, nor is he "bad" at it...no SS should constantly have to get stuck running 40+ yds downfield with fast WR's..in the short to intermediate areas he is pretty good in coverage

David

Hey. Cut it out.

There is no need to use reason in this thread.
 
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