Is Roy Williams a liability in coverage?

[scottsp]

I voted "yes"...But your point here is well taken.

Roy is what he is. The problem is that it's been years since Woodson has retired and we still have not found a good replacement. In fact, everyone we put at FS was either substandard of a SS playing out of position. The problem with Roy's coverage skills is that he's forced to use them too often. I don't remember his coverage skills being this bad when Woodson was back there with him.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[smarta5150]

I dont even know why we have this poll anyway.

The man is a SS.

To be 100% honest I believe ANY SS in the league is a liability in coverage.
(Yes, some are better than others but when it all comes down to it... they are all liabilities, if they werent, they would be CBs.)

A more relevant poll would be asking about Anthony Henry who on EVERY play is lined up on a receiver.

 

[Viper]

I'd have to say yes, until this team finds a pass rush!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It's not Roy's deep coverage vs. wideouts that alarm the masses, IMO. It's how he gets turned around by tight ends.

When they're in two-deep, there is no strong safety per se ...though, that's what he is recognized as. In those instances he's responsible for the deepest third, he seems to make some poor decisions. I don't think this is a physical issue with Roy, but moreso in judgement.

All that said, I take a much harsher stance towards our lack of pass rush. Quality pressure goes a long way in disguising those types of weaknesses.

And it's not just Roy. The safety play in general leaves something to be desired. But know, when we are going two-deep, he's got a target on his chest - just as Davis, Watkins, etc. will. And that really hurts when your defense can't make a push towards the quarterback.

I'm a big Roy Williams fan, but he's in a tough situation given the other problem areas on the defensive side of the ball.

This is an excellent post Scott. I agree with everything you say here. It is not Roy on speed but rather, angles and his ability to change direction that is discerting to me. Having said that, it's not his fault we are putting him in that situation. It's not his fault the rush is allowing for these deep routes to develop. It's not his fault he is playing along side the talent he has been forced to play with.

Well thought out post.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

yes

when he's being picked on

 

[Bob Sacamano]

The Homer Glasses are on I see. Williams obviously has coverage issues yet 45% of the homer..err fans don't beleive he does!

who says he doesn't have coverage issues?

 

[smarta5150]

I see all this RW criticism becoming nothing but dust in the wind within the next 2 years.

Something will be changed whether its personel, coaches, etc.

As a team we know we cant cover deep and the league knows this.

Adjustments will be made and this forum will be clear of these type of threads.









We can always hope.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Those who do not believe him to be a liability take it almost as a personal attack. It's interesting.

yes, ignorance is taken personal by some people

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't remember his coverage skills being this bad when Woodson was back there with him.

or earlier this year when teams weren't targeting the deep secondary

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

yes, ignorance is taken personal by some people

Yes, fortunatly for you summer, I'm not one of them.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Yes, fortunatly for you summer, I'm not one of them.

are you sure about that? j/k

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

are you sure about that? j/k

Relatively so. You might say I've come to appriciate your very specific brand of humor. It's an aquired tast.

 

[MONT17]

the fact is its BP to put ROY in a defense where he can make plays not sit over top a play with no pass rush!!!


Roy is our best "coverage" safety and that is BP fault... not Roys!!!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Relatively so. You might say I've come to appriciate your very specific brand of humor. It's an aquired tast.

I'm like a fine wine, yes, I know

 

[Rampage]

roy needs help at free safety. just like tnew did at cb. tnew was garbage in 2004. why? cause he had no help. roy is playing pretty good foe not having any help. plus roy just got a new contract, so he's not going anywhere anytime soon.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I expected a bigger spread.

 

[AdamJT13]

I don't know if that's a yes or a no Adam.

I didn't vote yes or no. Like I said, it's a ridiculous question.

 

[Hoods]

Is Matt McBriar?

 

[dbair1967]

I didn't vote yes or no. Like I said, it's a ridiculous question.

that was my point exactly earlier...it is ridiculous and its also why I didnt vote

David

 

[dbair1967]

I don't know if that's a yes or a no Adam.

I do, and he is superior to most SS's in coverage

David