Is the Broncos defense enough to beat Panthers?

[Longboysfan]

Panthers probably win by 14.

Corrected.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Yeah, that's all they did. Oh, and go 16-1 in all their other games this year.

But take away those 17 wins and they suck.

The patriots went undefeated and lost to the Giants.

You can make an argument for either team.

 

[Idgit]

the line has nothing to do with it. Its actually 5.5 too elsewhere
What did the line say about the Pats/Broncos game? it lied,All lines are just lies.
the line is made to tell you what they already think you think will happen.
The public saw Panthers score lots of points so they assume that means Panthers are better team. Thats where the line comes from.
it means nothing

The line doesn't mean 'nothing,' but that wasn't the point. You said everyone knows DEN is winning, and I pointed out that oddsmakers disagree with what you believe everyone knows.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

The patriots went undefeated and lost to the Giants.

You can make an argument for either team.

Carolina's 18-1 has a much better chance of being better than the other teams 18-1 Lolol

 

[cowboyblue22]

I think the panthers win this game going away.

 

[CrownCowboy]

I agree that Manning is a sitting duck back there and his arm is nothing like it used to be.

As far as the Broncos' defense is concerned, they are really a wonderful unit. They have the talent to stop the Panther's offense.

For the life of me, I can't understand why teams haven't made it a priority to stop the run against the Panthers and that includes Newton out of that read option. I know it's easier said than done but teams are playing off on the Panthers and Newton has a ton of time to pretty much do whatever he wants.

If I were a D-Coordinator I would stack the box against the Panther's and put eight and sometimes nine men in the box. I'd take away the run between the tackles right off the bat and I'd make it very hard for Newton to take off and run. I'd also single up on the outside, get my hands on Olsen coming out of his stance and bracket him at times with a DB over the middle. I'd send atleast five guys at Cam most of the day and sometimes more. I'd make Cam beat my defense down the field, against man to man coverage and make him do it under duress and have to make quick decisions. As talented as Cam is and even though he has gotten better, accuracy is still his weakness. He'll have to be pinpoint and decisive if he wants to beat my defense and if he did then they would win.

No more of this mess where he has all day behind the line of scrimmage. His wide receivers are still below average in my opinion and I'd make them make some plays.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think this is likely Manning last season in the league and while I would love to see him go out on top I think Panthers defense and offense will be too much for Denver. Broncos have a very good defense but I think Cam presents a problem in his running and passing ability. Not often do you run into a QB who is 6'05" 250 and runs like a RB yet has shown through out the season the ability to work from the pocket and read defense to attack in passing game. On the other side Panthers defense have been bringing heat and causing turnovers and Manning will be a sitting duck.

 

[Sarge]

Broncos were supposed to be in trouble against the Pats too.

Brady was supposed to make them pay.

Not imo.

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

I think Manning is in BIG trouble.

The post game talk will probably demote him for the greatest 5 QBs of all time to the greatest 10.

Something like that.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I think this is likely Manning last season in the league and while I would love to see him go out on top I think Panthers defense and offense will be too much for Denver. Broncos have a very good defense but I think Cam presents a problem in his running and passing ability. Not often do you run into a QB who is 6'05" 250 and runs like a RB yet has shown through out the season the ability to work from the pocket and read defense to attack in passing game. On the other side Panthers defense have been bringing heat and causing turnovers and Manning will be a sitting duck.

I kinda see it that way. If he loses he's gonna get beat down...

But... If it's in the cards for him to win... I hope he does it "lights out"

 

[JoeyBoy718]

the line has nothing to do with it. Its actually 5.5 too elsewhere
What did the line say about the Pats/Broncos game? it lied,All lines are just lies.
the line is made to tell you what they already think you think will happen.
The public saw Panthers score lots of points so they assume that means Panthers are better team. Thats where the line comes from.
it means nothing

We get it. Anything can happen.

 

[Arkyvarminter]

IF Denver can keep it close the first half they have a shot. Panthers Offense vs Bronco's D will be fun to watch but they will score. Bronco's Offense vs Panther's D is where the problem for Denver lies. Don't think they can score much. Take Kuechley out and it might be a close game.....

 

[Rogah]

the line has nothing to do with it.

If you're going to claim "everyone knows Denver is winning" like you did above, then the line is a big indicator of the veracity - or complete lack thereof -
of that statement.

 

[thinwhiteduke]

If you're going to claim "everyone knows Denver is winning" like you did above, then the line is a big indicator of the veracity - or complete lack thereof -
of that statement.

I already told you lines are lies. The favorite has only won twice in the last 10 years

 

[Rogah]

I already told you lines are lies. The favorite has only won twice in the last 10 years

The lines represent public sentiment. You are trying to state "everyone knows" Denver is going to win, but the facts do not support that thesis.

And while you're entitled to you own opinion, you're not entitled to your own facts. 5 of the past 10 Super Bowl favorites won the game (I'm calling NE a favorite in SB 49 although that line slipped to pick 'em in some places).

 

[thinwhiteduke]

The line doesn't mean 'nothing,' but that wasn't the point. You said everyone knows DEN is winning, and I pointed out that oddsmakers disagree with what you believe everyone knows.

the oddsmakers want you to believe what they say. They arent disagreeing with anything

 

[Idgit]

the oddsmakers want you to believe what they say. They arent disagreeing with anything

They set the line where the money is going. It's an obvious measure of expectations.

 

[thinwhiteduke]

The lines represent public sentiment. You are trying to state "everyone knows" Denver is going to win, but the facts do not support that thesis.

And while you're entitled to you own opinion, you're not entitled to your own facts. 5 of the past 10 Super Bowl favorites won the game (I'm calling NE a favorite in SB 49 although that line slipped to pick 'em in some places).

its not my fault people are stupid. theres two crowds. The crowd that wants to bet and the crowd that wants a feel good ending.
The Black hats have won the last two super bowls. Its time to give the public the white hat ending it wants.
the SB makes billions more on prop bets then just the actual game score.
Manning is winning no matter what happens

 

[thinwhiteduke]

They set the line where the money is going. It's an obvious measure of expectations.

they set the line where they want the money to go. They dont react,they lead.
they already know theyll move the line,they arent surprised by anything.

you dont need to know **** about football to make money being a bookie. You can just make up a number,move it and people will buy into it.

 

[Idgit]

they set the line where they want the money to go. They dont react,they lead.
they already know theyll move the line,they arent surprised by anything.

you dont need to know **** about football to make money being a bookie. You can just make up a number,move it and people will buy into it.

This is a mix of accurate and inaccurate. But either way, the line is a measure of expectation, and there's no way around it.