Is the Bucs game a do or die game for any Dak fans?

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That's right...so many times when the team goes three and out, Dak just goes and sits down. Stares into wonder land. I remember Aikman would cuss and throw a fit if his protection broke down...he was in there face...not staring into dark space.
Completely different era. They were Gen X'ers. If Brady is pis*** he breaks stuff on the bench. Millennials are much more sensitive to criticism.
 

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The ship has sailed with Dak for me
I wish Dallas could or would trade up and find a qb if there are any decent talented qbs coming put this draft. Sorry don't follow college too much
 

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I don't have to pretend a QB that wins 70% of his games as a starter is good. He played like crap yesterday. It happens.. He has been really good overall since coming back from the injury except for one or two head scratcher throws per game. He had been completing over 75% of his passes since coming back off injury before yesterday and had one of the highest TD percentages in the league over that stretch while leading the highest scoring offense in the league (by a wide margin) during that same stretch. None of that changes what happened yesterday one iota but to "pretend" that game should define him more than the games where he lit the opponent up for 35-40 points is just stupid. But if you wanna be stupid.. Be my guest. It's a free country.
Leads the league 2 years in a row in scoring
 

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THIS!!! SPOT ON, RONNIE T!
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The thing is those Dak detractors know what's going on, but they act ignorant and just whine a bunch of nonsense.

I mean we already knew what the narrative was going to be by the middle of the second quarter of that game. Dak played bad and that's why we lost. Everybody else was stellar.. it was just Dak that held them back. He wasted all the great run blocking and pass protection.. He caused the backs to have nowhere to run. He caused the receivers to not be able to catch the ball or run decent routes.. He caused Anger to drop the snap and Turpin to drop the punt. And most of all he caused the defense to let another kid making his first ever start look pretty comfortable and confident in addition to giving up another 150+ yards on the ground. It was all on Dak.. I can speak openly about how poorly Dak played.. What I don't understand is why the rest of the team playing like crap just gets swept under the rug or you get attacked. Are we really at such a level of simpleton that we can only examine one player at a time for every game and we have to attribute wins and losses to that player and only that one player? Good lord..
 

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I mean we already knew what the narrative was going to be by the middle of the second quarter of that game. Dak played bad and that's why we lost. Everybody else was stellar.. it was just Dak that held them back. He wasted all the great run blocking and pass protection.. He caused the backs to have nowhere to run. He caused the receivers to not be able to catch the ball or run decent routes.. He caused Anger to drop the snap and Turpin to drop the punt. And most of all he caused the defense to let another kid making his first ever start look pretty comfortable and confident in addition to giving up another 150+ yards on the ground. It was all on Dak.. I can speak openly about how poorly Dak played.. What I don't understand is why the rest of the team playing like crap just gets swept under the rug or you get attacked. Are we really at such a level of simpleton that we can only examine one player at a time for every game and we have to attribute wins and losses to that player and only that one player? Good lord..
Spot on, Ronnie.

It's sad what "Cowboys fans" have turned into. I even hear it from friends and some family. Bunch of zombies or something.
 

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Spot on, Ronnie.

It's sad what "Cowboys fans" have turned into. I even hear it from friends and some family. Bunch of zombies or something.
Did you have the same energy when Cooper Rush was starting? Or is it ONLY about Dak Prescott? What you're really saying is you have to support Dak 100% or you're not a real fan, that's fiction.

If Dak was traded you'd support that new team. That's how much you love him.
 

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Did you have the same energy when Cooper Rush was starting? Or is it ONLY about Dak Prescott? What you're really saying is you have to support Dak 100% or you're not a real fan, that's fiction.
Dak lives in your mind 24/7. That's how much you hate him. Very sad. Zombie.
 

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Did you have the same energy when Cooper Rush was starting? Or is it ONLY about Dak Prescott? What you're really saying is you have to support Dak 100% or you're not a real fan, that's fiction.

If Dak was traded you'd support that new team. That's how much you love him.

I don't think anybody said any such thing.. Because nobody should have to.. We are all theoretically Cowboys fans so ALL of us should be rooting like hell for the guy playing the most important and difficult position in all of sports for the most visible franchise in all of sports to do well. The fiction is this made up narrative in the heads of people like you that supporting Dak and wanting him to do well is somehow placing him above the team. Hell we all screamed till we were hoarse when Rush was playing too. I know I was hoarse every Monday for those 5 weeks.. How about you? I started supporting the Cowboys when I was 5 years old in 1965. I have seen hundreds of my favorite players come and go. Some day Dak will join them.. and I will scream like hell for whoever replaces him. You guys need to get over this need to paint anybody that supports our frickin players as somehow "worshipping" them. That's some junior high bullcrap. Nobody worships no damn football player.. At least nobody over the age of 12 does. And nobody over the age of 12 should even be talking about that kinda crap.
 

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I don't think anybody said any such thing.. Because nobody should have to.. We are all theoretically Cowboys fans so ALL of us should be rooting like hell for the guy playing the most important and difficult position in all of sports for the most visible franchise in all of sports to do well. The fiction is this made up narrative in the heads of people like you that supporting Dak and wanting him to do well is somehow placing him above the team. Hell we all screamed till we were hoarse when Rush was playing too. I know I was hoarse every Monday for those 5 weeks.. How about you? I started supporting the Cowboys when I was 5 years old in 1965. I have seen hundreds of my favorite players come and go. Some day Dak will join them.. and I will scream like hell for whoever replaces him. You guys need to get over this need to paint anybody that supports our frickin players as somehow "worshipping" them. That's some junior high bullcrap. Nobody worships no damn football player.. At least nobody over the age of 12 does. And nobody over the age of 12 should even be talking about that kinda crap.
Again I ask you the same question I asked the other guy, did you have the same energy when Rush was starting? I know for sure you didn't. That's called being a hypocrite. Talking all that garbage about supporting the QB but you really mean only if it's Dak. Whatever

I don't deal with hypocrisy well just say you love Dak because you do and that's fine but don't cry if I don't.
 

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I don't think anybody said any such thing.. Because nobody should have to.. We are all theoretically Cowboys fans so ALL of us should be rooting like hell for the guy playing the most important and difficult position in all of sports for the most visible franchise in all of sports to do well. The fiction is this made up narrative in the heads of people like you that supporting Dak and wanting him to do well is somehow placing him above the team. Hell we all screamed till we were hoarse when Rush was playing too. I know I was hoarse every Monday for those 5 weeks.. How about you? I started supporting the Cowboys when I was 5 years old in 1965. I have seen hundreds of my favorite players come and go. Some day Dak will join them.. and I will scream like hell for whoever replaces him. You guys need to get over this need to paint anybody that supports our frickin players as somehow "worshipping" them. That's some junior high bullcrap. Nobody worships no damn football player.. At least nobody over the age of 12 does. And nobody over the age of 12 should even be talking about that kinda crap.
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At least 1 turnover in the last 7 games
3 pick 6s in 4 games

Everyone should be frustrated right now with Dak Prescott. But people just get too attached to a name. If Dak played like he did in 2016 I would love him. I did love him then, my feelings have since changed because his play has changed he's not the same QB. He had the perfect o-line good WR core best running game. Without that he's average at best.

How do you go to bat for someone and sellout for them 100% when they lead the league in INTS DESPITE missing 5 games? People get too emotional and don't use logic.
 

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Dak did absolutely blow chunks on the play where he threw the pick and on several other plays yesterday. My point was that he (and the line) blew chunks on a similar play 30 seconds prior.. So why are you calling the same play there? What was going to change when you did it the second time? What is with this sudden undying devotion to Noah Brown? How many times was he targeted? 6? One less than Lamb.. He ended up with 1 catch. Two were outright drops and the rest were severely contested because he got zero separation. Sam with Gallup.. 6 targets.. one catch.. That aint gonna get it down. He also had his share of drops. Lamb is about the only one of the main receivers who DIDN'T have at least two drops. Schultz had two, Gallup had two, Brown had two, Hilton had two.. It was like once one guy started dropping the ball they all had to follow suit. I've never seen anything like it except last year against Denver when they did something similar. I counted 10 drops total in that game.. I don't know if this one got to 10 but it sure as hell seemed like it. And that's not even counting the one Zeke never looked back for. People will naturally wanna bang on the QB when the offense plays as bad as it did.. but it took all 11 guys and then some to put up a performance like that one..
Fair and great post. I think the call was terrible myself. I think the QB made a mess of it too. As for the rest of the game, I think the team consistently reads its own press. It’s cliche to call them soft and I won’t. However, I do think they lack the bunker mentality needed at this stage where health, focus, and pressure all create a real challenge. I guess I’m saying they don’t seem to form that fist that other teams seem to do come playoff time.

Anyway, the offense and defensive lines must make this their mission and their mentality needs to be in that “bunker”. Micah, Dak, Pollard, Lamb and Diggs are the most noteworthy, but they aren’t going to dictate the needed result against Tampa. Just my opinion and I respect yours and others.
 

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I mean, I pretty much agree with this. Points are how you win or lose the games. So a lot of the things we haven't succeeded at come down to things outside of the things everyone gripes about, like the QB.
STATS are almost meaningless.
# 1 in scoring and only 6 points in wash game, how does that happen?
avg 30 points a game does not mean they can score 30 on each team they play lol.

Dallas tends to run up the score in some games which is why they are top scoring team.
 

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It feels like I live in clown world when Dak just had his worst game ever arguably and the same homers are still homering for him, and already making excuses if he loses next week. Something wrong with their brains.
 

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Dak and the team have to find a way to go further than this team has over the last 2 decades. If not, I think many inside the organization have to question if Dak is truly the present and future or if he's another Tony Romo.

Regardless, based on the money invested in Dak I don't see him going anywhere over the next 2 years. That doesn't mean the Cowboys shouldn't consider drafting a QB atleast on day 2 of the draft. It's good insurance and hey maybe you find someone that takes the job eventually. If not then hopefully you have infused more young talent on the offensive line and have another receiver to pair with Ceedee. Then you make a decision on Dak after 2024.
 

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At least 1 turnover in the last 7 games
3 pick 6s in 4 games

Everyone should be frustrated right now with Dak Prescott. But people just get too attached to a name. If Dak played like he did in 2016 I would love him. I did love him then, my feelings have since changed because his play has changed he's not the same QB. He had the perfect o-line good WR core best running game. Without that he's average at best.

How do you go to bat for someone and sellout for them 100% when they lead the league in INTS DESPITE missing 5 games? People get too emotional and don't use logic.
You're too ignorant to realize half of those Interceptions were not on Dak. Then again, it doesn't fit your Dak hate agenda.

Please continue amusing us. :popcorn:
 

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since this is about dak, I would say no it isnt do or die, because jerry will stick with him till his contract is up.
then at that point will probably extend him again lol.

As for me I gave up on him in 2018. I would like another qb, but dont see it happening anytime soon.

The TB game , well TB has been pretty bad and out of synch this season. Todd bowles was a vg DC but he is awful as HC.
And by being HC his defense is now not as good as it was. Brady and his divorce, I think that is messing with him mentally and it
shows on the field.
game 16 he and his team looked good, 3 long td's to Evans perfect passes, but then against Atlanta not too good. But that was meaningless game,,,,,,
much like the dal wash game .
So it is a toss up on this wc game with TB, which team is more motivated, has best game plan,turnovers, and then there is the ref calls lol, game mgmt by hc's.
could go either way. TB is at home so guess they have a edge but not much of one.

Dallas should win the game, more talent, and fewer injuries, and better record. but will they?
 
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