Is the Bucs game a do or die game for any Dak fans?

[TheSport78]

I’ve been off the Dak train since 2019.

 

[Mk2_Cowboys]

What Dak fans? lol , Stop with that nonsense , Dak himself is no longer a fan. He’s a turnover machine leading the nfl in turnovers with 5 less games than the next QB. We have to overcome him to try and win at this point. He’s not the only issue bec8ase the entire team sucks. It’s the worst 12 win team in NFL history .

 

[Mk2_Cowboys]

I don't have to pretend a QB that wins 70% of his games as a starter is good. He played like crap yesterday. It happens.. He has been really good overall since coming back from the injury except for one or two head scratcher throws per game. He had been completing over 75% of his passes since coming back off injury before yesterday and had one of the highest TD percentages in the league over that stretch while leading the highest scoring offense in the league (by a wide margin) during that same stretch. None of that changes what happened yesterday one iota but to "pretend" that game should define him more than the games where he lit the opponent up for 35-40 points is just stupid. But if you wanna be stupid.. Be my guest. It's a free country.

You’re math is off win rate is closer to 60% , not bad but he’s not the same Dak he was few years back, he’s a turnover machine that would make Eli Manning blush.

 

[Jayinem]

What Dak fans? lol , Stop with that nonsense , Dak himself is no longer a fan. He’s a turnover machine leading the nfl in turnovers with 5 less games than the next QB. We have to overcome him to try and win at this point. He’s not the only issue bec8ase the entire team sucks. It’s the worst 12 win team in NFL history .

The clowns on the last page are two very fine examples.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Plenty of good QB's in the other rounds. Get one early on day 3, work with him and develop him and see if he can play in this league.

IMO we should be doing that every other year until we find the next good Cowboys QB.

I am not saying we shouldn't. we should draft a QB every other year to hope to develop and move on from quickly if it doesn't look like they can succeed. but the odds of failure in rounds 2-7 is much much much higher than first round.

 

[RonnieT24]

Again I ask you the same question I asked the other guy, did you have the same energy when Rush was starting? I know for sure you didn't. That's called being a hypocrite. Talking all that garbage about supporting the QB but you really mean only if it's Dak. Whatever

I don't deal with hypocrisy well just say you love Dak because you do and that's fine but don't cry if I don't.

Of course you do.. because you live in your own fantasy world where you are able to read minds and discern emotions of others. You have made up your mind that anybody who wasn't pom pom waving to keep a QB in who was winning games while passing for barely 150 yards a game in the lineup hated him. You know what's hypocritical about what you posted here. You claim that not wanting Dak benched because of his limitations and occasional poor play is somehow "worship" yet anybody who didn't salute Cooper Rush and his 70's level passing performances and wholly unsustainable 20 points per game offense is being a hypocrite.

No Dak is not perfect.. But Rush is a lot LESS perfect. I believe the highest scoring output that Rush was able to achieve was 25 points. Dak has helped the team win multiple games in which the opponent scored more than that. That's why we wanted him back. We knew that as soon as the defense suffered some injuries or just got scouted better teams were going to be able to score on them at some point and we would need to win some shootouts. Those of us whose heads were not too far up our arses recognized that Rush was not winning any of those. The one time he was asked to score more than 25 points he tossed 3 picks. We saw him toss two picks against Washington but get bailed out by penalties. We also saw Cincy drop at least 3 picks and the Giants drop two more. The handwriting was on the wall.. Cinderella was about to be riding a pumpkin dragged by rats back home from the ball.. so we wanted her to get home before that happened. Rush did his job.. He kept us afloat while Dak was out while running a training wheels offense. But we won 4 out of 5 doing that so I salute him.

Sorry that doesn't line up with your "you have to love Dak and hate Rush or you have to love Rush and hate Dak" view of the world. I root hard for both guys. But I want to see the guy who gives us a better chance to win play. In my view that guy is Dak. No he can't play like he did on Sunday.. but neither can his teammates. I don't think they will.

 

[RonnieT24]

You're too ignorant to realize half of those Interceptions were not on Dak. Then again, it doesn't fit your Dak hate agenda.

Please continue amusing us.

Oh he knows.. He just doesn't care because bashing Dak is a cornerstone of his existence.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

Are you out on Dak if we lose this game and he turns the ball over?

If not, what would it take for you to be out on Dak?

On the opposite side, if Dak can get us to the NFC Championship I will apologize for discredting Dak.

These guys will just keep making excuses for Dak. It was the receivers, no, the OL, oh well the gameplan, well maybe the slippery ball. Can never really be Dak, he is perfect.

 

[Doomsday101]

I pull for any player I feel gives this team a chance and makes them better. I think Dak gives this team a chance, does not mean I think he is the best QB in the NFL but I do think this team can win with him. No doubt there will come a point where the Cowboys bring another QB in and he will take over, As a Cowboy fan I hope it is someone who gives this team a chance

 

[RonnieT24]

You’re math is off win rate is closer to 60% , not bad but he’s not the same Dak he was few years back, he’s a turnover machine that would make Eli Manning blush.

I was referring to the current version of Dak but it's a fair point. Dak is at 62.8% for his career but 68% for the last two seasons. His won-loss record is being dragged down by the Garrett years. And Eli Manning led the NFL in INTs like three times and topped 20 INTs more than once. I seriously doubt Dak creeps into that territory .. but I guess you never know. This more aggressive version of Dak could end up tossing 15-16 picks a season from here on out. I just can't believe that will be the case though. It flies in the face of everything we know about him. I said when all this interception business started that he had gotten himself in a rut that he may not be able to get out of during the season. It's just hard to turn the ship around in midseason like that. I do think he will study like hell on it this offseason and get it fixed. Cause that's what guys like him do. Whatever bites them in the arse the most in the previous season gets all the attention in the offeseason. I don't expect Dak to throw more than 10-11 picks next year and going forward. Hell if you just remove the 5 or 6 volleyball INTs this year he's right around that number.

 

[Sydla]

THIS!!! SPOT ON, RONNIE T!


The thing is those Dak detractors know what's going on, but they act ignorant and just whine a bunch of nonsense.

The reality is that those that understand Dak isn't one of the best QBs in the league are way more right than you are.

Dak is what he is. Good. Decent. Above Average. That seems about it right now. He's in his 7th season now. It seems tough that his trajectory as a QB would change at this point but he has a chance to do it again this January. Let's see where he ends up.

 

[stinkface]

These guys will just keep making excuses for Dak. It was the receivers, no, the OL, oh well the gameplan, well maybe the slippery ball. Can never really be Dak, he is perfect.

Agree. Last year Burrow was sacked 51 times in Cinn and took his team to the super bowl. Dak has been sacked 20 times this year. At some point you got to just read the defense and throw the ball before the receiver is open. Dak doesn't anticipate where the receiver is going to be. He wants to see him in the open. Doesn't work that way in the NFL.

 

[RonnieT24]

These guys will just keep making excuses for Dak. It was the receivers, no, the OL, oh well the gameplan, well maybe the slippery ball. Can never really be Dak, he is perfect.

Only the idiots who hate Dak make any such statement. I have not seen a single actual Cowboy fan say Dak is perfect. But seriously.. if the ball his the receiver in the hands, chest or face mask and bounces up in the air to turn into an interception.. exactly who SHOULD we blame? Dak has made a number of cringeworthy throws that have turned into INTs and some that were dropped INTs. But he's also hit guys in the numbers only the have them inexplicably turn into a volleyball setter with it. How am I to blame the QB for that? Likewise if the line lets a guy get to the QB in under 2 seconds and the guy is grabbing at the QB as he throws the ball how am I to blame THAT on the QB? It's an 11 man game.. Good or bad.. it takes 11 guys to play well.. and 11 guys to suck. Some of you want to make everything about the quarterback.. If you can only attribute wins and losses to a single player.. maybe you should start following golf or tennis. It's okay to admit football is too complicated for you. We won't think any less of you. In fact we will respect you for recognizing your limitations.. Like Harry Callahan said: "A man's gotta know his limitations. "

 

[nhcowboysfan]

What it will take for me to be "out on Dak" is pretty simple. For him to no longer be the quarterback of my favorite team. Other than that? I'm pretty much going to always be "in on Dak."

Thank you. What a novel concept. Like you and others, I somehow suffer from an affliction whereby I actually want my QB to succeed. I never understood the vitriol aimed at Romo, which has now carried over to Dak. Does Dak have flaws? Sure. Are there areas of his game he can improve upon? Absolutely. But until such time as it is determined that he is not the best option at QB and he is replaced, I am going to continue rooting for him.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Only the idiots who hate Dak make any such statement. I have not seen a single actual Cowboy fan say Dak is perfect. But seriously.. if the ball his the receiver in the hands, chest or face mask and bounces up in the air to turn into an interception.. exactly who SHOULD we blame? Dak has made a number of cringeworthy throws that have turned into INTs and some that were dropped INTs. But he's also hit guys in the numbers only the have them inexplicably turn into a volleyball setter with it. How am I to blame the QB for that? Likewise if the line lets a guy get to the QB in under 2 seconds and the guy is grabbing at the QB as he throws the ball how am I to blame THAT on the QB? It's an 11 man game.. Good or bad.. it takes 11 guys to play well.. and 11 guys to suck. Some of you want to make everything about the quarterback.. If you can only attribute wins and losses to a single player.. maybe you should start following golf or tennis. It's okay to admit football is too complicated for you. We won't think any less of you. In fact we will respect you for recognizing your limitations.. Like Harry Callahan said: "A man's gotta know his limitations. "

 

[Doomsday101]

Thank you. What a novel concept. Like you and others, I somehow suffer from an affliction whereby I actually want my QB to succeed. I never understood the vitriol aimed at Romo, which has now carried over to Dak. Does Dak have flaws? Sure. Are there areas of his game he can improve upon? Absolutely. But until such time as it is determined that he is not the best option at QB and he is replaced, I am going to continue rooting for him.

Really simple, it is the same reason with Danny White. He was unable to get his team to the SB. White took a lot of heat much of it unfairly. Good for him the internet was not around.

 

[Sydla]

Only the idiots who hate Dak make any such statement. I have not seen a single actual Cowboy fan say Dak is perfect. But seriously.. if the ball his the receiver in the hands, chest or face mask and bounces up in the air to turn into an interception.. exactly who SHOULD we blame? Dak has made a number of cringeworthy throws that have turned into INTs and some that were dropped INTs. But he's also hit guys in the numbers only the have them inexplicably turn into a volleyball setter with it. How am I to blame the QB for that? Likewise if the line lets a guy get to the QB in under 2 seconds and the guy is grabbing at the QB as he throws the ball how am I to blame THAT on the QB? It's an 11 man game.. Good or bad.. it takes 11 guys to play well.. and 11 guys to suck. Some of you want to make everything about the quarterback.. If you can only attribute wins and losses to a single player.. maybe you should start following golf or tennis. It's okay to admit football is too complicated for you. We won't think any less of you. In fact we will respect you for recognizing your limitations.. Like Harry Callahan said: "A man's gotta know his limitations. "

Yes but balls hitting WRs in the hands and dropped and balls ricocheting into defenders hands of WRs happen to all QBs. It's not something unique to Dak here. I mean if you want to look at a specific play, great, assign blame properly. But from a more macro-level, Dak's play this year has been all over the map. He's not been consistent and he bears responsibility. Trying to blame Brown for this or Lamb for that or Schultz for this just looks like attempts to take blame off Dak but in reality, Dak bears a significant amount of the blame when we are talking about offensive failures/issues during games, etc. He just does. Doesn't mean he bears it all alone.

You asked why Dak catches more of the heat? It's not hard to figure out and is no different than any other QB in any other town. Highly paid QBs just have higher expectations than other players. And when they don't perform, they are going to get much of the heat. This ain't rocket science here.

The screwy thing here is that you guys get pissy when people don't acknowledge Dak as one of the best QBs in the league. But then when he's held up to the standard of one of the best QBs in the league, suddenly you guys are like "woah, woah, woah" we can't blame him for that, or hold him to this standard or that standard.

 

[RonnieT24]

Yes but balls hitting WRs in the hands and dropped and balls ricocheting into defenders hands of WRs happen to all QBs. It's not something unique to Dak here. I mean if you want to look at a specific play, great, assign blame properly. But from a more macro-level, Dak's play this year has been all over the map. He's not been consistent and he bears responsibility. Trying to blame Brown for this or Lamb for that or Schultz for this just looks like attempts to take blame off Dak but in reality, Dak bears a significant amount of the blame when we are talking about offensive failures/issues during games, etc. He just does. Doesn't mean he bears it all alone.

You asked why Dak catches more of the heat? It's not hard to figure out and is no different than any other QB in any other town. Highly paid QBs just have higher expectations than other players. And when they don't perform, they are going to get much of the heat. This ain't rocket science here.

Dude I have Sunday ticket and probably watch parts of 10-12 games a week. The tip drill INTs have not happened to other QBs at near the rate it has to Dak this year. Hell it had not happened to Dak at this rate until this year. I mean you know that every highlight show makes a point of showing interceptions right? So if it was happening to all QBs we'd be seeing it on highlight shows every week. But we don't.. because what has gone on in Dallas this year is extremely uncommon. Dak has been snake bit this season no doubt and I'm afraid it might take an offseason to get it worked out.

And I have not asked anything about why Dak catches more of the heat. Because I already know why.. I just consider that line of reasoning the territory of softheads. "Well he makes more money so he gets more blame." Are you kidding me? Every guy that sets foot on the field is an NFL player. So that's how I judge their performance. How well does he do his job. So I don't see a guy's salary when the ball hits him in the hands and he drops it and think well since the QB makes more money it's the QB's fault the receiver dropped that ball. I'm not capable of that kind of crap thinking. If others are.. that's on them. I won't be joining them.

 

[CouchCoach]

Neither in nor out on any player, I am a team fan.

But this particular player has a tough hill to climb. When he went for that contract and Booger gave it to him, he knew he'd have to try and climb into that upper echelon of QB's and that was not by handing the ball off. He knew Booger would expect that and to prove that he was worth it because to Booger it is all about what it looks like, not what it really is.

I think the QB and OC are both a bit hamstrung with this owner because he wants his QB to be up there with the top 5 guys and I just do not believe Prescott possesses the skill and talent to do that consistently. He'll show flashes but, imo, he improved from where he was when he came into the league but that can go just so far. I watched him his last two years at Miss St and he still makes some of the same poor decisions.

I think his background and history how he became the #1 QB in high school, college and the NFL hangs with him and he knows he has to do it better. He was never good enough to take the job and just good enough not to lose it.

I am more in on them keeping him than trying to replace him in the draft because they are not good at that.

 

[JohnBoy]

I think he needs to go if they bounce before the NFCCG this year. Yes, I know the salary-cap-QB-hell consequences. But I'd rather this team start shopping for forward progress than keep starters who have clearly demonstrated that they simply cannot get the job done.