Is there something wrong with our strength and conditioning program

[Denim Chicken]

Romo didn't do enough clavicle stretches.

 

[xwalker]

I would like to see a long-term study on that actually. They initially thought that about Tommy John surgery for pitchers in high school and pro potential kids were getting surgery proactively. Now we're seeing more pitchers needing repeat surgery and even a 3rd. I think we're just reaching the point where the human body can't physically take what they can physically do. I know I've seen quite a few players have repeat ACL tears to the same knee in recent years though.

Rules could probably help with pitchers. High School players should probably be limited in their pitch counts, including practice by some type of governing body. Some d-arse coaches are probably ruining some of those kids.

In football and some other sports I really wonder if players are over trained these days. I always thought a guy like Miles Austin should have taken a year off from weight lifting and playing. Even more with at guy that that Safety (Matt Johnson). He was just over muscled up. A year away from weight training probably would have helped him more than trying to do the typical rehab.

I've had some shoulder problems in the past that just wouldn't go away until I took a long (1 year plus) break from weight lifting. I tried the high reps, low weight type lifting they had me do in physical therapy but it continued to be problem until I just got away from the weight lifting altogether for a long period of time.

 

[AzorAhai]

Rules could probably help with pitchers. High School players should probably be limited in their pitch counts, including practice by some type of governing body. Some d-arse coaches are probably ruining some of those kids.

In football and some other sports I really wonder if players are over trained these days. I always thought a guy like Miles Austin should have taken a year off from weight lifting and playing. Even more with at guy that that Safety (Matt Johnson). He was just over muscled up. A year away from weight training probably would have helped him more than trying to do the typical rehab.

I've had some shoulder problems in the past that just wouldn't go away until I took a long (1 year plus) break from weight lifting. I tried the high reps, low weight type lifting they had me do in physical therapy but it continued to be problem until I just got away from the weight lifting altogether for a long period of time.

The coaches in baseball are absurd. Some of these kids are throwing 150 pitches every 3 days. I agree on the over training. They used to always talk about Miles leg size on the broadcast, yet he always had hamstring problems. Seems correlated to me.

 

[yimyammer]

ACL, ACL, broken collarbone, broken foot, ankle, concussion

not sure what strength and conditioning can do for injuries like this

 

[rynochop]

It took this long for this thread to surface? Gotta be a record

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Dunbar is still around if he isn't subjected to the risk of returning kicks. That one is on the coaches.

I'm still mad the team let Romo drop back and let Dez run routes. They'd still be healthy had they not. That's on the coaches.

 

[links18]

I'm still mad the team let Romo drop back and let Dez run routes. They'd still be healthy had they not. That's on the coaches.

Nice sarcasm, but there is no reason to have a guy you want to feature on offense returning kickoffs. That is what Whitehead is for. I guess we should just put Dez back there the second he's healthy.

 

[dogunwo]

Same staff last year, haven't heard anything about changes in the program. So how did we make out last year on the injury front?

It's just a horrid run, nothing more or less.

I think like a lot of people do, the wussification of training camp has a lot to do with injuries league wide

 

[xwalker]

Nice sarcasm, but there is no reason to have a guy you want to feature on offense returning kickoffs. That is what Whitehead is for. I guess we should just put Dez back there the second he's healthy.

Darren Woodson and Moose played on all the special teams units back in the Super Bowl years.

Personally I would prefer to never bring the ball out of the end zone on kickoffs.

 

[links18]

Darren Woodson and Moose played on all the special teams units back in the Super Bowl years.

Personally I would prefer to never bring the ball out of the end zone on kickoffs.

Regardless, let Whitehead do it. Aren't kickoffs the most dangerous play in football? Now, Dunbar is gone for the year. Well, maybe Whitehead would have had the sense to stay in the end zone.

 

[John813]

No amount of great strength and conditioning could've prevented a good number of these injuries. Just some freak stuff.

Concussions and fractures/broken bones are just freak injuries. Can't prevent those in terms of strength/conditioning.

Injuries like hamstrings/groin could be due to lack of conditioning. Somehow Newman has been relatively healthy since leaving here

 

[Hoov]

Dunbar is still around if he isn't subjected to the risk of returning kicks. That one is on the coaches.

I dont like the idea of using an offensive player who you hope to be a significant part of game day plans to do returns. I never have. Wish they had kept Harris or signed someone to do the role of kick and punt returns

 

[JohnsKey19]

Concussions and fractures/broken bones are just freak injuries. Can't prevent those in terms of strength/conditioning.

Injuries like hamstrings/groin could be due to lack of conditioning. Somehow Newman has been relatively healthy since leaving here

The injuries this year could not be avoided.

However i do wonder how Miles Austin and Terrence Newman have managed to avoid groin/hamstring injuries since leaving here. Maybe just a coincidence.

 

[ufcrules1]

Same staff last year, haven't heard anything about changes in the program. So how did we make out last year on the injury front?

Luck?

 

[links18]

Luck?

You mean just like the 12-4 record? I jest; I jest.

 

[maxdallasfan]

Jerry clearly needs to invest in Sports Science and Smoothies since the Genius Chip Kelly swears by this voodoo.

 

[Cowboysfan1975]

If it was all muscle pulls maybe, but a broken foot a broken collarbone a concussion a blown acl. Nothing can prevent those aside from not playing football. It's just one of those years. It sucks, but nobody is to blame. Just horrible luck this season.

 

[sureletsrace]

Rules could probably help with pitchers. High School players should probably be limited in their pitch counts, including practice by some type of governing body. Some d-arse coaches are probably ruining some of those kids.

In football and some other sports I really wonder if players are over trained these days. I always thought a guy like Miles Austin should have taken a year off from weight lifting and playing. Even more with at guy that that Safety (Matt Johnson). He was just over muscled up. A year away from weight training probably would have helped him more than trying to do the typical rehab.

I've had some shoulder problems in the past that just wouldn't go away until I took a long (1 year plus) break from weight lifting. I tried the high reps, low weight type lifting they had me do in physical therapy but it continued to be problem until I just got away from the weight lifting altogether for a long period of time.

Very interesting take. I had a biceps tendon tear at my elbow that never truly got better until I stopped lifting also. Maybe some of these players actually need to stop lifting so their body can recuperate.

 

[jazzcat22]

I think they should do proactive ACL surgeries on all playerss before they get injured. They say the surgically repaired knees are less likely to get injured than before surgery.

Maybe some fans have really good ACLs and could donate them.

According to many, our fans sit too much, so those ACL's may be atrophied. But wait, fans at home that ridicule fans at the game sit also, so they can't donate either.

 

[jazzcat22]

I would like to see a long-term study on that actually. They initially thought that about Tommy John surgery for pitchers in high school and pro potential kids were getting surgery proactively. Now we're seeing more pitchers needing repeat surgery and even a 3rd. I think we're just reaching the point where the human body can't physically take what they can physically do. I know I've seen quite a few players have repeat ACL tears to the same knee in recent years though.

I read a theory one time about pitchers and Tommy John injury. This was a good 10 or 15 years ago too.
This person said that coaches and kids from 12 to 16, or earlier. Want to emulate the MLB pitchers, and when their muscles and ligaments are still developing. They try all these different pitches and styles. Therefore putting extra stress on them. Only to come back to have injuries later.
And that they just need to stick with learning the regular pitches like the fast ball, and curve ball as basics.

Not sure if that makes sense or not, but it was his theory. Maybe he was just a frustrated dad because his kid was not a good pitcher...LOL....