Is this a clean hit?

[BoysRule2]

Guess I didnt notice his elbow the first few times I watched. It does look like he was looking at Losman and then stuck his elbow up at Losman's knee.

You mean when you go try to sack a QB, you have to turn your head and look somewhere else?

 

[Doomsday]

You mean when you go try to sack a QB, you have to turn your head and look somewhere else?

No what I am saying is that at first I just noticed that Wilfork was being tackled by the Olinemen and it looked like he was just off balance and fell into Losman's knees. Upon further review it looks like he knew exactly where he was falling and purposely stuck out his elbow in the direction of Losman's knees.

 

[Nors]

No what I am saying is that at first I just noticed that Wilfork was being tackled by the Olinemen and it looked like he was just off balance and fell into Losman's knees. Upon further review it looks like he knew exactly where he was falling and purposely stuck out his elbow in the direction of Losman's knees.

This could go either way - only Wilfork knows what his intentions were.

 

[Rack]

I didn't watch it but I'd say a clean hit because nobody would want Losman taken out of a game.

:laugh2:

No thats what happened, Oline tripped up and pushed Wilfork into Losman. It happens real fast and its tough to see Wilforks real intention. Probably a combination of instincts to break fall and hit QB at same time. No flag thrown but a fine.

Its a borderline hit, now had he not been pushed into Losman its a clear cheap shot.

It's official... Nors is a Pats fan. Now there's absolutely no doubt about it.

It was. Anyone who thinks differently should be hit the same way themselves.

Come on thats not what he is saying. If you look at Wilfork's feet as he is falling you can clearly see the Oline is tackling him.

He did get pushed/held but at the last second he lunges forward. If his intent were to "make a football play" then he would of reached out with his hands. He stuck an elbow out and aimed it at Losman's knee. That's the dirty part.

Guess I didnt notice his elbow the first few times I watched. It does look like he was looking at Losman and then stuck his elbow up at Losman's knee.

Are you running this same poll on that board?

No but I will.

The same as being blocked into the punter is not a foul.

Player was pushed and tackled towards QB. His instinct is also to hit QB and or brace for fall, It was not flagged and I doubt in that 1/10 of a second he was trying to take out his knee but made a football move.

It's funny (not really) how Nors keeps disregarding (*see "Ignoring") the elbow being lunged out at Losman's knee at the end of the play.


I wish I'd made this a poll so we can see what fools actually think this is a clean play.

 

[Rack]

This could go either way - only Wilfork knows what his intentions were.

Wilfork's intentions are obvious to almost everyone.

Not expecting a Pats fan (that's YOU, Nors) to see it any other way.

 

[CF74]

Dirtier than a truck stop bath room. Reminds me of how the steAlers got to the super bowl over Carson Palmer..

 

[silverbear]

Two of you voted that was clean? Are you kidding me?

Pats trolls... apparently, we have 13 of 'em...

 

[silverbear]

He's a patriots fan that also follows the cowboys... what did you expect?

And Wilfork was fined $12,500 for intentionally injuring Losman.

The NFL needs a new rule-- if you're flagged for a personal foul and your foul injures a player, you are suspended until such time as the player you hurt is ready to return to action...

 

[silverbear]

hit wasn't "dirty", a big guy moving that fast can't just stop folks, leading with his arm was much better than a helmet

i feel bad for you nors, everything you post is obsessively overanalyzed

Maybe you can go kiss his boo-boo, make it all better...

 

[silverbear]

Rack, did you post this at any other team forums? I wonder what their take on it may be? Perhaps Nors and his koolaid are right and we're all wrong. I mean really, only 95% think it was a dirty hit.

Actually, 90.2 per cent... let's not exaggerate here... LOL...

 

[silverbear]

Yep. Anyone who thinks that was clean is a fool.

That's simply not true...

I'm a fool, and I KNOW it was a dirty hit...

You owe us fools an apology... I'm thinking of getting hold of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, and organizing a protest against your biased slurs...

I'm thinking we can hold it the Cat House... :

 

[silverbear]

No thats what happened, Oline tripped up and pushed Wilfork into Losman. It happens real fast and its tough to see Wilforks real intention. Probably a combination of instincts to break fall and hit QB at same time. No flag thrown but a fine.

Its a borderline hit, now had he not been pushed into Losman its a clear cheap shot.

Nors, that's just ASININE... as another poster comically said, I've done my fair share of falling (or getting knocked) down... not once in all those times did I extend my freaking ELBOW to break the fall... those who do that wind up with broken elbows...

What clearly happened was the guy DELIBERATELY threw an elbow as he was going down, and that is nothing but a cheap shot...

 

[silverbear]

The same as being blocked into the punter is not a foul.

Player was pushed and tackled towards QB. His instinct is also to hit QB

With his ELBOW??

Somehow, I don't think he was ever taught THAT technique...

And you wonder why some in here are completely certain that you're a Pats fan masquerading as a Cowboys fan... even I'm startin' to doubt your bona fides on this one...

 

[silverbear]

No what I am saying is that at first I just noticed that Wilfork was being tackled by the Olinemen and it looked like he was just off balance and fell into Losman's knees. Upon further review it looks like he knew exactly where he was falling and purposely stuck out his elbow in the direction of Losman's knees.

There ya go-- he WAS taken down by the blocker, but that in no way explains hitting Losman squarely on the side of the knee (the most vulnerable part of the knee) with his frickin' elbow...

The intent there was to injure the QB, period...

 

[MapleLeaf]

...but take a look at the Eagles game at the 51 second mark of the third quarter.


Ware beats his man around the edge, but is pushed from behind. As he is struggling to hold his balance 4 inches from the ground he wraps up McNabb's ankles.

McNabb tries to get away, but was eventually called "in the grasp" and the play blown dead as a sack.

Ware was just as off balance as Wilfork ever was and we all know that Ware moves as fast as Vince ever will, but he was able to control enough of his body not to use anything else but his arms in a safe and legal manner.

 

[Hostile]

...but take a look at the Eagles game at the 51 second mark of the third quarter.


Ware beats his man around the edge, but is pushed from behind. As he is struggling to hold his balance 4 inches from the ground he wraps up McNabb's ankles.

McNabb tries to get away, but was eventually called "in the grasp" and the play blown dead as a sack.

Ware was just as off balance as Wilfork ever was and we all know that Ware moves as fast as Vince ever will, but he was able to control enough of his body not to use anything else but his arms in a safe and legal manner.

Did he dive forward at his knees or raise his elbow?

When you fall do you put your hands down automatically in a vain attempt to cushion your fall, or do you raise your elbows to keep them from getting scraped?