Is This Bledsoe's Last Hurrah???

[Bledsoe4MVP]

I hope he wins one this year. He has the kind of recievers he likes in TO, Glenn, and Witten. If the Oline can perform, Bledsoe could have a career year. Drew Bledsoe is a class act who deserves to win at least one superbowl. His charity work and refusal to rake his crappy Olines through the coals (Manning) exude the kind of professionalism that is rarely found in today's athletes.

Manning's a joke, he'll finally be exposed this year without edgerin james carrying the offense. Bledsoe is a consummate professional and always takes the blame when he has a bad game every once in a while. You'd never hear him make a remark about bad oline play (even though that's been the case 95% of his career)

Drew has all the weapons in place to have a huge season. If everybody stay's healthy, especially up front on the oline, I could see Drew passing for well over 4500+ yards, possibly threatening the 5000 mark.

 

[Hostile]

It don't matter IF Drew ever wins a superbowl or not....as of right now he would get into the HOF on his numbers alone, just not 1st ballot. He's already among the top 10 QB's of all time.

Once he hits the 50,000 yard mark he will be a lock for 1st ballot, even if he never wins another playoff game.

Yeah right.

That's a good one.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

It don't matter IF Drew ever wins a superbowl or not....as of right now he would get into the HOF on his numbers alone, just not 1st ballot. He's already among the top 10 QB's of all time.

Montana
Young
Unitas
Starr
Farve
Elway
Marino
Aikman
Bradshaw
Staubach
Kelly
Tarkenton
Moon
Stabler


OK... there's 14. Who's Mr. Bledsoe better than in that group?

 

[Slyster]

Depends on how you calculate being better.

I think Marino , Favre , Elway , Unitas , Tarkenton , Montana and Young ( Favre is butchering his rep though.. Another high INT season would change my view ) are better than Drew. I think he ranks alongside of Jim Kelly , Troy Aikman and Warren Moon.

Tough to compare the older QBs since most of them didnt even reach 30,000 yards passing or 200 TDs.

 

[big dog cowboy]

It's nothing more than nonsensical drivel written by a known Brady jock sniffer and Bledsoe hater....not worth reading if you ask me.

Facts are facts. Neither your opinion or mine changes tham. Like BP says, you are what you are.

 

[sbneff]

Someone's in denial. Saying his stats don't exist is just that... denial.

Turning yards into points is not just a reflection of QB play either. You can be a great QB until you get into the red zone, but if you have smallish WRs, it gets harder to get into the end zone. Bledsoe has had very few big WRs... Key and maybe Moulds?? TEs yes, but Bledsoe has had more small, quick WRs. Glenn, Patten, Brisby, Price, Brown, Branch, etc. etc. Red zone scoring lso has to do with tough RB play. Those RBs who can get the tough yards near the end zone. How many goalline backs has Bledose played with?? Kieth Byars?

The stat I refer to is a ranking, it employs what a QB has done with his passing yards. Bledsoe has clearly proven that he does not convert yards into points. This clearly defines his place amongst his peers.

 

[sbneff]

I was wondering when you would make your way over here sb. I see you are still posting your sensless drivel which you copy and paste over and over again hoping someone will agree.

Mediocre QBs do not last 13 years. They fall out as quickly as they arrive ( See Trent Dilfer ).

Still. Bledsoe doesnt not need to win a SB to prove anything. Any Football fan with a brain the size of a pea knows that he will be entering the HoF.

I am sure you two think Jim Kelly , Warren Moon and Dan Marino are all Mediocre aswell. Right? Clueless.

Actually, my posts point out that Drew Bledsoe is mediocre and I have posted a fact that backs the assertion. Who's posting "drivel".

Bledsoe may someday enter the HoF, as I may. He too will pay the admission fee.

 

[sbneff]

The only QBs in that list that I would not consider Bledsoe equal to or better than are : Starr , Unitas , Griese , Montana and Young. Its a tough call on some of the older QBs because most of those guys stats are horrible with some throwing more INTs than TDs.

Your problem is you don't know how to comapre QB's from different eras. You just can't look at their stats and compare them like apples, you need to compare them during their era. You continue to show your ignorance of the sport, regardless of the website.

 

[sbneff]

This guy is the most anti bledsoe person on the planet, i dunno why, his grudge is the size of texas, im telling you go to the bills message board, and 97% of his posts are about how bad bledsoe is

Refute one of my posts. Would you like to discuss or even argue any of my comments, I dare you to try. Instead of posting silly stats (like, he ranks in the top ten for completions and attempts), I can post his numbers as they pertain to his era and situational stats that define the position.

 

[sbneff]

It don't matter IF Drew ever wins a superbowl or not....as of right now he would get into the HOF on his numbers alone, just not 1st ballot. He's already among the top 10 QB's of all time.

Once he hits the 50,000 yard mark he will be a lock for 1st ballot, even if he never wins another playoff game.

Please tell me of all the top ten stats he holds. Let me guess, passing attempts, completions, passing yards; what are all the others?

 

[sbneff]

How about we don't worry about obscure, pointless statistics and focus on the ones that matter:

* 43447 career passing yards....and counting

Ranks 180th all-time turning yards into points.

* 252 career TD's (includes 8 career rushing TD's)....and counting

Has more turnovers than TD's

* 33 come from behind wins....and counting

How many of those are in the last 2 minutes of a game - shall I post the SI article?

* 2 AFC Championship game wins...hopefully some nfc championship wins to come

One AFC championshipp win - then he went on to post a 45 QB rating in the SB with 4-INT's

* 4-3 career playoff record (likely to be 7-3 or 8-3 after the 2006 season depending if dallas gets a bye)

3-3 play-off record - as I keep telling you, he does not get credit for the 2001 AFC championship game. Brady left the game with the lead and Bledsoe had one good drive that started at the Steelers 40 yard line. The rest of the game he did everything in his power to throw is away, do you remember the hook pass or the two throws directly into the hands of the defense?

* Holds multiple franchise passing records for 2 different franchises.....i'm sure he will own some dallas ones very soon as well

Please post the franchise records, I'd be more than happy to refute those too.

* Passed for over 3000 yards in 9 of 13 seasons, including 3500+ in 8 seasons, 4000+ in 3 seasons

Yet, ranks 180th all-time in converting those yards into points. Shall I post his record (or the article) of wins/losses to the quality of his opponent?

* Passed for 20+ TD's in 7 of 13 seasons

Has more turn-overs than TD's in his career - not to mention the sacks.

* 4 pro bowl appearances....and counting (meaningless stat for the most part since it's just a popularity contest anyhow)

Then why do you keep mentioning this?

* 2 superbowl appearances

One where he posted a 45 QB rating and 4-INT's when he played and the other the Patriot's won as he sat on the bench and watched. Good to see you count this as his accomplishment.

* 1 superbowl championship as backup

Exactly, "as a backup", the Patriots would have 0-SB's with Bledsoe as their leader. Refute that.

Hope to see you and all the other bashers in Canton 5 years after the day Drew retires his jersey.

He will also pay admission.

This must be 8thday, nice try but changing your name on another site doesn't mask your sillyness.

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

Please tell me of all the top ten stats he holds. Let me guess, passing attempts, completions, passing yards; what are all the others?

I said he's one of the top 10 QB's to ever play, and i'm being serious....and yes he's already in the top 10 in terms of attempts, completions, passing yards, 4th quarter/overtime comebacks, etc....and he just turned 34.

Also I believe he shattered 10 franchise records in buffalo, also holds many records in new england, and i'm sure he will rewrite some records in dallas when it's all said and done.

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

Actually, my posts point out that Drew Bledsoe is mediocre and I have posted a fact that backs the assertion. Who's posting "drivel".

Bledsoe may someday enter the HoF, as I may. He too will pay the admission fee.

43000+ passing yards
228 TDs
30+ come from behind victories
a consummate professional that don't call out his teamates unlike some posers (manning)
an legit mvp calibur player year after year that makes players that truly are 'mediorce' look like superstars...

Yep that's the true definition of mediocre if I've ever seen it... :laugh1:

 

[sbneff]

I said he's one of the top 10 QB's to ever play, and i'm being serious....and yes he's already in the top 10 in terms of attempts, completions, passing yards, 4th quarter/overtime comebacks, etc....and he just turned 34.

Also I believe he shattered 10 franchise records in buffalo, also holds many records in new england, and i'm sure he will rewrite some records in dallas when it's all said and done.

Answer the reason why he ranks 180th in turning those yards into points? He ranks high in attempts and completions because he throws the ball allot. Yet his completion percentage is mediocre at 57% and his yds/attempt is also mediocre. His TD/INT ratio is below mediocre and his combacks don't happen in the last few minutes of a game - you like to include the whole 4th quarter. Please tell us where he ranks in this stats amongst his peers, show the link too.

Also, list all of these meaningful franchise stats, let me guess they all have to do with attempts and completions and yards, right?

 

[sbneff]

43000+ passing yards
228 TDs
30+ come from behind victories
a consummate professional that don't call out his teamates unlike some posers (manning)
an legit mvp calibur player year after year that makes players that truly are 'mediorce' look like superstars...

Yep that's the true definition of mediocre if I've ever seen it...

Did you ever read the book Patriot Reign? I didn't think so. Nice try 8thday, but again you are exposed.

 

[peplaw06]

Refute one of my posts. Would you like to discuss or even argue any of my comments, I dare you to try. Instead of posting silly stats (like, he ranks in the top ten for completions and attempts), I can post his numbers as they pertain to his era and situational stats that define the position.

Silly stats, silly stats, they don't exist. I'd like to see your stats neff, and where you got them. Of all the stats you've tried to refute, you have yet to post anything but your biased opinions. I'll probably just say they don't exist, but whatever.

Oh and easy question for you, although it seems your hate of Bledsoe clouds your judgment beyond belief.... How are those QBs working out for you now?? Loserman, Holcomb, Craig Nall, Tory Woodbury, man you got some great things going up there in Buffalo. I don't suppose you guys would love to have Bledsoe back huh? I think the Buffalo weather has frozen your brain.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I think he ranks alongside of Jim Kelly , Troy Aikman and Warren Moon.

Tough to compare the older QBs since most of them didnt even reach 30,000 yards passing or 200 TDs.

You honest to God believe Bledsoe is the equal of Jime Kelley, Troy Aikman and Warren Moon? You honestly believe he's as good a QB?

 

[sbneff]

Could someon tell me why that writer used 10-5-1?

Are you playing stupid? The explaination was given to you many times (since it did not sink in the 1st time) on the Bills website. Did you lose your memory?

 

[sbneff]

How many of you "Bledsoe bashers" were surprised at the numbers and the performance of the past season?? Honestly, I want to know. How many of you saw doom and gloom when he was signed, only to change your tune when we were 7-3??

Granted we were one win from the playoffs, but to put all the blame on Bledsoe for missing the playoffs is ridiculous. Bledsoe's not a kicker. He put us in position to win about 3 more games, and Cortez/Cundiff blew it.

And as for the NE roster in their Super Bowl, yes they had some good players, obviously they were in the Super Bowl. But 1996's roster was much different from the roster in 2001.

As for his performance in that game, two of Bledsoe's interceptions were in the 4th quarter when they were trying to come back. He really didn't have that bad of a game, he was forced to throw a lot because Martin wasn't doing anything, and because they were playing catch up.

The premise of our argument for how Bledsoe could be considered a first ballot HOF and regarded as a great QB depends on some IFs. I said if he wins a SB or two, he will get consideration. We're not arguing that he's the greatest ever.... I mean the Cowboys are being considered SB contenders this year, so is it so far out of the realm of possibility to suggest what will happen if he wins one?

You guys are quick to blame Bledsoe for his shortcomings as a QB, but don't give him any credit. You soud like a bunch of mediots. So sue us for being optimistic about our QB.

Hey PT how come you changed your name? Did you feel your tired message about Bledsoe would be exposed? Seems as though you and 8thday need to hide behind different usernames - amazing.

 

[sbneff]

Silly stats, silly stats, they don't exist. I'd like to see your stats neff, and where you got them. Of all the stats you've tried to refute, you have yet to post anything but your biased opinions. I'll probably just say they don't exist, but whatever.

Oh and easy question for you, although it seems your hate of Bledsoe clouds your judgment beyond belief.... How are those QBs working out for you now?? Loserman, Holcomb, Craig Nall, Tory Woodbury, man you got some great things going up there in Buffalo. I don't suppose you guys would love to have Bledsoe back huh? I think the Buffalo weather has frozen your brain.

First off PT, you are quite aware that I am a Patriots fan and not a Buffalo fan, I guess it's your way of trying to hide the real you.

I asked a simple question, just like I have asked you to answer on the Bills website and you do the same as always. You don't answer the question and you go on to change the subject by asking an offtopic question.

Same MO, just with a different username.