Is TO a complete WR?

[SkinsandTerps]

No matter what anyone says, winning changes everyones opinion.

That said, if TO isn't a complete WR, there never was one.

Because Jerry Rice was average I guess.

 

[EveryoneElse]

Because Jerry Rice was average I guess.

I wish this was just a Cowboy's board, is there anyway we could have a Zone for just Cowboy fans?

Anyway......

We are talking complete. I don't think the question was who is the best WR ever. I think he asked if TO was a complete player.

Where in the hell does Jerry Rice come into this discussion? Read my post again and tell me where I said anything that would suggest that Jerry Rice was average.....please, and report back.

 

[Cbz40]

We all know that TO is a top rated receiver as far as scoring touchdowns and making plays after the catch (character issues aside). I wonder about the other side of a complete receiver. Will he block his man on running plays to his side, and when he is downfield? He certainly has the strength and size to excel in this facet of the game.

BBQ (first post…love this site…training camp can’t come fast enough.)

Welcome to the board......have fun.

 

[bobbie brewskie]

You consider me a troll ? haha. Of all people.

On the field. TO is almost complete. I think that he gets easily frustrated. A series or two when he doesnt get a look and he starts into temper tantrum mode.

He is an adequate blocker. He blocks at the point of attack but generally has little presence downfield.

Route runner - pretty good. However the best part of TOs game is that he is very good at coming back to the QB to help him (the QB) out when the play breaks down.

Speed - better than average game speed, the thing that makes TO so dangerous is that he exploits players that take bad angles.

Toughness - Well... recently he seems to be somewhat injury prone.

Smarts - He has a good feel for the tempo of the game, and usually makes adjustments well.

Hands - Hands are not as good as most would like to believe. TO has been a primary target and has had issues in the past grabbing balls that come his way with ease.

Coachability - Beyond that point, in his own mind it seems.

Leadership - TO leads on the field, he has the swagger that many players feed off.

Conditioning/Practice player - TO is known for great conditioning and gives solid effort in practices.


Media presence - We all know he cant control himself usually.

Off Field issues - No drug, alcohol, domestic, steroid, or other issues known. However TO has a flighty type of behavior/mindset, and can be removed from reality it seems when it is to his own benefit.

no, just a trollish post. i like all 1805 of your other posts . . .

i like your assessment of TO as well, he does get frustrated on the field but he doesnt let it detract from his game. sometime in your career you will be told, "dont get mad" for the simple reason that when your mad you arent thinking straight and it will detract from your ability to play better. TO doesnt let this happen, he gets somewhat frustrated but uses it to increase the level of his play.

 

[cowboyuptx]

Yes, TO is a complete reciever. He lacks brain power sometimes, that's about it.

 

[cowboyuptx]

I wish this was just a Cowboy's board, is there anyway we could have a Zone for just Cowboy fans?

Anyway......

We are talking complete. I don't think the question was who is the best WR ever. I think he asked if TO was a complete player.

Where in the hell does Jerry Rice come into this discussion? Read my post again and tell me where I said anything that would suggest that Jerry Rice was average.....please, and report back.

I respect your oppinion........ but I disagree.

I think its good that fans of other teams come by. I mean we're usually pretty critical of our team, it shouldn't bother us to hear outsiders say the same things we do........ as long as they're not being too big of a homer. He's staying on topic, so, no harm, no foul (IMO).

 

[Hostile]

No, TO is not a "complete" WR. He's a force and a talent, but there are things missing from the equation as well. Jerry Rice is the model upon which all WRs are measured and that is how it should be. There's a very wide gap between Rice and TO, and I doubt very much that the gap can be bridged. Not even talking about every career receiving record ever considered, there are 3 pieces of jewelry missing from one hand. Rice was a critical part of all 3.

 

[Murph80]

TO just runs his routes and coverages follow him and he automatically takes defensive players with him and out of the way of the run.

 

[EveryoneElse]

No, TO is not a "complete" WR. He's a force and a talent, but there are things missing from the equation as well. Jerry Rice is the model upon which all WRs are measured and that is how it should be. There's a very wide gap between Rice and TO, and I doubt very much that the gap can be bridged. Not even talking about every career receiving record ever considered, there are 3 pieces of jewelry missing from one hand. Rice was a critical part of all 3.

I disagree as far as what the question was.

No doubt Jerry Rice is the best WR ever to play the game. No arguement here.

Is there anything Terrell Owens doesn't do well? Thats what complete means to me.

to me, things that make a complete WR are:

Catch: TO can catch the football, he may drop one here and there, but he can catch.

Route running: Maybe not the smoothest route runner, but he gets seperation and gets open. He knows how to gain sepreation on routes.

Blocking: He can block with the best of them. If we measure every WR by Keys standard when it comes to blocking, no WR measures up.

Game planning: When you play TO you game plan to stop him.

TO may not be the best WR ever, but he is a complete WR, imo.

I don't think you can knock any part of his game when it comes to inside the lines.

jmo.

 

[EveryoneElse]

I respect your oppinion........ but I disagree.

I think its good that fans of other teams come by. I mean we're usually pretty critical of our team, it shouldn't bother us to hear outsiders say the same things we do........ as long as they're not being too big of a homer. He's staying on topic, so, no harm, no foul (IMO).

I respect your opinion as well.

I think it's fun every once in a while to chat it up with other fans.

I just think theres a place for it, and there should be a seperate forum for it, thats just my opinion.

 

[Longboysfan]

to the boards.

Other than maybe be pushed back in line by BP. Should not present a problem.

 

[BruceWayne]

All I have to say is remember the long run Garrison Hearst made a few years back with the 49ers who was down field putting DB's on their a$$e$

 

[Austin28]

Sometimes, he's a complete jackass, which makes him not a complete reciever. Sometimes, he makes teams look foolish ...

It all depends on which TO shows up ...

I for one, still hate his punk arse. There's room for change though. When he starts averaging 2 or 3 TDs a game....

Who knows though, I've never really been a fan. Since he's starting, that may have to change.