Twitter: It’s De “no longer Sam” Williams

817Gill said:
Uhm yes naming conventions are a part of a community’s customs and culture. How does that not make sense to you?

What are you even saying lol. How is a common cultural prefix insulting to the culture that created it? Just because it’s not your culture doesn’t mean it’s bad, wrong, stupid, strange, or whatever offensive idea you have. Hard to grasp I know but it’s 2022 man, get over these ways of seeing the nation and the world.
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Ok buddy so what culture puts De in front of normal names? What the heck are you talking about?

Its as if the parent likes the name Marcus but thinks they are being creative or different by adding a DE. LOL

Just name your kid Marcus already.
 
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CowboyRoy said:
Ok buddy so what culture puts De in front of normal names? What the heck are you talking about?

Its as if the parent likes the name Marcus but thinks they are being creative or different by adding a DE. LOL

Just name your kid Marcus already.
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Not sure why you want me to get to race and culture but yes African American culture, especially within the last few generations, likes to vary traditional English names by adding De or La/Le.

Demarcus Ware/Lawrence
LeBron James
De-Eriq King
LaMelo Ball
DeAngelo Williams
DeMarvin Leal

These are just a few off the top of my head but sports is littered with people with names like this and as a young AA I have known plenty of people with those suffixes in their names.

You can make fun of it all you want. You can try to trivialize it as being creative, when it’s actually a cultural preference.

It isn’t just “being creative” when one culture wears different clothing than another or speaks differently, it’s an expression of the culture.

If you at your grown age cannot understand that then please do not respond as I will be doing the same. Thank you for your obtuse ignorance.

P.S. Here’s a bit of history on AA culture:

“By the 1970s and 1980s, it had become common within African-American culture to invent new names. Many of the invented names took elements from popular existing names. Prefixes such as La/Le, Da/De, Ra/Re, or Ja/Je and suffixes such as -ique/iqua, -isha, -ari, and -aun/-awn are common, as well as inventive spellings for common names. The book Baby Names Now: From Classic to Cool—The Very Last Word on First Names places the origins of "La" names in African-American culture in New Orleans.[10] The name LaKeisha is typically considered American in origin but has elements drawn from both African and French roots.

Punctuation marks are seen more often within African-American names than other American names, such as the names Mo'nique and D'Andre.[1][11]

In his dictionary of black names, Cenoura asserts that in the early 21st century, black names are "unique names that come from combinations of two or more names, names constructed with common prefixes and suffixes...'conjugated' with a formula..."[12] "Da", "La", and related sounds may originate from the French spoken in Louisiana. Attached to a common name such as Seán and spelled phonetically, one obtains "DaShawn". Diminutive suffixes from French, Spanish and Scottish such as "ita" may be combined directly with prefixes or to a name, as is often found in white naming or nicknaming. Conventions followed usually make the person's gender easily identifiable. Following Spanish, masculine names often end in "o", e.g. "Carmello", while feminine names end with "a", e.g. "Jeretta". Following Irish, French and Italian, apostrophes may be used, e.g. "D'Andre" and "Rene'e". Parents' names may be blended, e.g. the son of "Raymond" and "Yvonne" might be named "Rayvon".”
 
817Gill said:
Not sure why you want me to get to race and culture but yes African American culture, especially within the last few generations, likes to vary traditional English names by adding De or La/Le.

Demarcus Ware/Lawrence
LeBron James
De-Eriq King
LaMelo Ball
DeAngelo Williams
DeMarvin Leal

These are just a few off the top of my head but sports is littered with people with names like this and as a young AA I have known plenty of people with those suffixes in their names.

You can make fun of it all you want. You can try to trivialize it as being creative, when it’s actually a cultural preference.

It isn’t just “being creative” when one culture wears different clothing than another or speaks differently, it’s an expression of the culture.

If you at your grown age cannot understand that then please do not respond as I will be doing the same. Thank you for your obtuse ignorance.

P.S. Here’s a bit of history on AA culture:

“By the 1970s and 1980s, it had become common within African-American culture to invent new names. Many of the invented names took elements from popular existing names. Prefixes such as La/Le, Da/De, Ra/Re, or Ja/Je and suffixes such as -ique/iqua, -isha, -ari, and -aun/-awn are common, as well as inventive spellings for common names. The book Baby Names Now: From Classic to Cool—The Very Last Word on First Names places the origins of "La" names in African-American culture in New Orleans.[10] The name LaKeisha is typically considered American in origin but has elements drawn from both African and French roots.

Punctuation marks are seen more often within African-American names than other American names, such as the names Mo'nique and D'Andre.[1][11]

In his dictionary of black names, Cenoura asserts that in the early 21st century, black names are "unique names that come from combinations of two or more names, names constructed with common prefixes and suffixes...'conjugated' with a formula..."[12] "Da", "La", and related sounds may originate from the French spoken in Louisiana. Attached to a common name such as Seán and spelled phonetically, one obtains "DaShawn". Diminutive suffixes from French, Spanish and Scottish such as "ita" may be combined directly with prefixes or to a name, as is often found in white naming or nicknaming. Conventions followed usually make the person's gender easily identifiable. Following Spanish, masculine names often end in "o", e.g. "Carmello", while feminine names end with "a", e.g. "Jeretta". Following Irish, French and Italian, apostrophes may be used, e.g. "D'Andre" and "Rene'e". Parents' names may be blended, e.g. the son of "Raymond" and "Yvonne" might be named "Rayvon".”
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Lamelo is cool. Creative. Lebron is cool too. Carmelo is good. Different and creative.

DeMarvin, Deshawn, Dejuan are just horribly uncreative. Jermichal. LOL

Just name your kid Michael already and be done with it. Its like rebelling, poorly.

You can try to turn this into a cultural thing, but I'm not biting. There are plenty of names in many cultures that I like and others I dont like. Its a personal opinion.

I think the worst name of all time is Anfernee as in Anfernee Hardaway. Cant figure out if the Parents didnt know how to spell Anthony and spelled it how it sounded or they really thought they were being creative by doing that. Either way its a personal opinion.
 
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817Gill said:
Not sure why you want me to get to race and culture but yes African American culture, especially within the last few generations, likes to vary traditional English names by adding De or La/Le.

Demarcus Ware/Lawrence
LeBron James
De-Eriq King
LaMelo Ball
DeAngelo Williams
DeMarvin Leal

These are just a few off the top of my head but sports is littered with people with names like this and as a young AA I have known plenty of people with those suffixes in their names.

You can make fun of it all you want. You can try to trivialize it as being creative, when it’s actually a cultural preference.

It isn’t just “being creative” when one culture wears different clothing than another or speaks differently, it’s an expression of the culture.

If you at your grown age cannot understand that then please do not respond as I will be doing the same. Thank you for your obtuse ignorance.

P.S. Here’s a bit of history on AA culture:

“By the 1970s and 1980s, it had become common within African-American culture to invent new names. Many of the invented names took elements from popular existing names. Prefixes such as La/Le, Da/De, Ra/Re, or Ja/Je and suffixes such as -ique/iqua, -isha, -ari, and -aun/-awn are common, as well as inventive spellings for common names. The book Baby Names Now: From Classic to Cool—The Very Last Word on First Names places the origins of "La" names in African-American culture in New Orleans.[10] The name LaKeisha is typically considered American in origin but has elements drawn from both African and French roots.

Punctuation marks are seen more often within African-American names than other American names, such as the names Mo'nique and D'Andre.[1][11]

In his dictionary of black names, Cenoura asserts that in the early 21st century, black names are "unique names that come from combinations of two or more names, names constructed with common prefixes and suffixes...'conjugated' with a formula..."[12] "Da", "La", and related sounds may originate from the French spoken in Louisiana. Attached to a common name such as Seán and spelled phonetically, one obtains "DaShawn". Diminutive suffixes from French, Spanish and Scottish such as "ita" may be combined directly with prefixes or to a name, as is often found in white naming or nicknaming. Conventions followed usually make the person's gender easily identifiable. Following Spanish, masculine names often end in "o", e.g. "Carmello", while feminine names end with "a", e.g. "Jeretta". Following Irish, French and Italian, apostrophes may be used, e.g. "D'Andre" and "Rene'e". Parents' names may be blended, e.g. the son of "Raymond" and "Yvonne" might be named "Rayvon".”
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I hope this post is allowed to stay. It's very interesting and informative!
 
Runwildboys said:
I care that people respect his desire to be called by the name he's used to. I can relate personally. It's like if everyone here suddenly started calling me Runny...Okay, bad example.
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Man this sucks. Now I'm stuck with a gold necklace that has an emblem of "Sam Williams". I was looking forward to wearing it to a club. I put my YKDV necklace away. Sam owes me a lot of money.
 
CowboyRoy said:
Lamelo is cool. Creative. Lebron is cool too. Carmelo is good. Different and creative.

DeMarvin, Deshawn, Dejuan are just horribly uncreative. Jermichal. LOL

Just name your kid Michael already and be done with it. Its like rebelling, poorly.

You can try to turn this into a cultural thing, but I'm not biting. There are plenty of names in many cultures that I like and others I dont like. Its a personal opinion.

I think the worst name of all time is Anfernee as in Anfernee Hardaway. Cant figure out if the Parents didnt know how to spell Anthony and spelled it how it sounded or they really thought they were being creative by doing that. Either way its a personal opinion.
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The irony of this post with regards to your chosen user name makes me chuckle. Thanks for the chuckles, you creative genius.
 
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