It’s Time to Stop Underrating Dak Prescott

[Zman5]

I have never understood this concept that the fact a team has a good defense makes a QB more accurate or more capable.

Wait it doesn't.

Ws and Ls is the only place that factors.

If you are playing with a lead most of the time, the game will be different. You don't need to press and take less chances. The opposing defense will also play different depending on whether they have a lead or not. Not hard to understand.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

There is no picking and choosing.

In every Prescott start, Elliott has had two games below 80 yards rushing. Two.

And what were the outcomes of those games, boys and girls?

Will be interesting. One of Dak's best qualities is that he seems not be phased by personnel for the most part. There have been games without Tyron, Dez... he seems to stay on schedule and throw based on his reads/progressions also improvising and creating. Naturally playing without Zeke is the unknown but based on his track record and demeanor, I think many will be surprised at how this offense performs.

 

[Alexander]

Will be interesting. One of Dak's best qualities is that he seems not be phased by personnel for the most part. There have been games without Tyron, Dez... he seems to stay on schedule and throw based on his reads/progressions also improvising and creating. Naturally playing without Zeke is the unknown but based on his track record and demeanor, I think many will be surprised at how this offense performs.

His ability to be unflappable and the same is an excellent trait. And yes, it will be interesting to see how it develops post-Elliott.

 

[HungryLion]

Dak is the best player on his team, and he plays the hardest position. Zeke (if that's who he thinks is), is averaging only 4.1 ypc. No way he is playing better than Dak. As for Goff, Dak's overall numbers are better than his.

Goff has Gurley who is playing just as well as Zeke.

But then again. Shannon sharpe is a horse faced moron.

 

[bark]

Someone point out to this moron that he wasn’t even the best receiver in his family and watch his head explode

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

Then enlighten me. You position is without Elliott the game is on Dak. Is that correct? Then you use the Denver game as a sampling of what happens when it is on Dak alone because Dallas could not run the ball.

You appear to have left out the defense allowed their quarterback to play like Brady that day.

~~But here is a place where I must introduce a separate subject. The fact Dallas scores and continues to score is a pressure the opposing offense has to deal with. You saw it in the KC game. That Hail Larry thing is discounted and them taking the lead is subtracted because of that fluke play. The Dallas defense is aided by the fact the Dallas offense cashes touchdowns. This is important. It keeps balance between two teams. In the Denver game, if the Dallas offense had been moving the ball, they would not have been stacking 9 in the box. Their game plan would have changed. ~~

Are you suggesting without Elliott grinding out big gains, Dak will either step up, or be unmasked?

I agree this will be a game where Dak needs to win it. But then Morris could just follow the gaping holes and hang 125 on 27 carries and Dallas wins.

Excellent points

 

[Alexander]

Then enlighten me. You position is without Elliott the game is on Dak. Is that correct?

No. That is not even close to my position.

My position is that it is difficult to draw a firm conclusion that he is great and is elite without Elliott.

Right now, there is no evidence supporting the idea that without Elliott, he is the same quarterback.

He has had a remarkable run of success and it is rare that you see that, but it has been with conditions.

He has been in an incubator the majority of the games he has played. That is not a slam, just a simple reality.

Then you use the Denver game as a sampling of what happens when it is on Dak alone because Dallas could not run the ball.

It pretty much is the only sampling possible. The other games he was on the field, carrying the ball a significant amount of the time and was a huge part of the offense's ability to move the football.

You appear to have left out the defense allowed their quarterback to play like Brady that day.

That is irrelevant. The run game or threat of the run or even the usefulness of the run was eliminated. I don't care what the defense did. I am speaking directly about Prescott's play in response to having the run game support.

Are you suggesting without Elliott grinding out big gains, Dak will either step up, or be unmasked?

Umm, yes, that will pretty much be the effect. If he does, those that believe he is elite and has arrived will have ample supporting evidence. And if he has a string of performances like Denver, we will know more about him and how he functions when teams do not have to fear Elliott's big play capabilities.

I agree this will be a game where Dak needs to win it. But then Morris could just follow the gaping holes and hang 125 on 27 carries and Dallas wins.

And if that is the case, we will keep on trucking.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

And Elliott was effectively taken out of the game and we saw the results. But bonus points for you for indicating the error in my statement.

Haven’t you just conceded ‘Mamacita’s point? Everyone was off that day. The o-line. Zeke. Even Sean Lee looked a mess (when have you seen that before?). Odd to single out Dak.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Tell yourself that if you must. But it is a simple fact. That is the only game where there was no run game in his entire professional career. Every other game he has had Elliott on the field with him.

We will have six more of those coming up. We'll see how much of an anomaly that was.

You kinda contradicted yourself saying that's the reason but we'll find out if that's the reason.

 

[Alexander]

Haven’t you just conceded ‘Mamacita’s point? Everyone was off that day. The o-line. Zeke. Even Sean Lee looked a mess (when have you seen that before?). Odd to single out Dak.

Odd to provide a blanket excuse. It works both ways.

Once again, it was one game. It happens to be the worst game of his career.

It is not just a small sample, it pretty much is the only sample. But yet there is the need to excuse even that for other factors?

Are we that desperate to crown him?

In a month and a half, we'll know. That is what I will wait for.

 

[loublue22]

I have never understood this concept that the fact a team has a good defense makes a QB more accurate or more capable.

Wait it doesn't.

Ws and Ls is the only place that factors.

Dak is 18-5

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

Odd to provide a blanket excuse. It works both ways.

Once again, it was one game. It happens to be the worst game of his career.

It is not just a small sample, it pretty much is the only sample. But yet there is the need to excuse even that for other factors?

Are we that desperate to crown him?

In a month and a half, we'll know. That is what I will wait for.

That’s fine. Meantime, the current sample is so small (as you indicate) that it is suggestive of nothing. It’s for that reason that no excuse is required (again, as you indicate).

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

You kinda contradicted yourself saying that's the reason but we'll find out if that's the reason.

Yeah there’s a bit of incoherence in the claim that the game suggests that Dak needs the support of an elite running game while conceding that it shouldn’t raise enough concern to cause us to raise alternative explanations.

But I’m fine with him back-pedalling so long as it lands him in the right place. Let’s all wait and find out. (Some of us already have a pretty good sense.)

 

[Boyzmamacita]

 

[TwoDeep3]

In this game there is nothing that does not require something from 11 men on the same squad. Talking away the run game, plus stacking the defense in a way to overwhelm from pass protection was a key to that game.

But where the rubber meets the road is Denver's DB's were up to playing man-up on the outside receivers.

I concede if your defense has that ability to box the running game inside the hash marks and at the same time overrun the pocket, you don't need a pair of Deion's playing against the 1 and 2 receiver to get that done.

But Alex, what I think makes the difference is two fold. That bunched 8 and sometimes 9 in the box takes away the slant, and collapses the pocket so swiftly it makes the screen moot. But that also was a time in this offenses life wherein the line was still finding their rhythm with each other.

Where that offense was struggling, and did so beyond the Denver game, this line is making holes.

Atlanta is 18th againhst the run at 114 yards per game. They are 10th against the pass. THis will not be a walk off game. But I believe it is difficult to make the accessment this team's run game was be so far inferior to the Zeke game that Dallas will be reduced to a passing attack only, and the Denver results can be expected.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

He has had a remarkable run of success and it is rare that you see that, but it has been with conditions.

True for every QB ever. Maybe now that we've covered basic logic you can start to work on understanding more complex topics.

 

[Corso]

Someone point out to this moron that he wasn’t even the best receiver in his family and watch his head explode

This is true. Sterling was a monster. Shannon has the biggest mouth though and that's what counts after you've retired from the League.

 

[percyhoward]

It's not a coincidence that every WR on the roster is having a down year.

Not only that, it's not even true.

Bryant 38 of 75 (50.7%) 439 yd (5.9 ypa) 4 td 2 int 75.4
other WR 64 of 95 (67.4%) 759 yd (8.0 ypa) 6 td 2 int 103.7

 

[DFWJC]

Great article. Odly.. it's so hard to get Prescott support here amongst all places.

Other than maybe 4-5 posters here, pretty much everyone appreciates Dak.
Maybe it's just the squeaky wheel thing that makes it seem like more.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

There's also some give and take with anyone who's not the elite of the elite (Brady Rodgers etc.)... some of the big time downfield passing qb's will kill you with inaccuracy, display horrible leadership in spots, recklessly attempt to improvise and put their team in bad situations and of course turning the ball over. One of Dak's best qualities imo is playing WINNING football. He runs the offense properly and keeps the offense on schedule. He doesn't make MISTAKES that destroy your probability of winning. He's clutch and steps up in big moments. The problem is a lot of these qualities are immeasurable and he makes them look EASY.

Bingo!!!!!!!other words, how often does Dak put offense/team in negative situations with turnovers, sacks, bad plays, etc?