It really says a lot...

[Seven]

No problem. They are all over the place, right?

1-800-Free safety

 

[DanTanna]

Scandrick is in the wings....

 

[Boyzmamacita]

We better rank top 3 in points, yards, sacks and forced turnovers for 2010.

Top 3 in forced turnovers? The Dallas Cowboys? I want some of what you're drinking. And I hope you're right.

 

[CowboyDan]

Interesting point raised by Jesse Holley on the Michael Irvin Show, with regards to Jenkins, and how he's happy that if he can make plays on Jenkins in practice, then he should be able to compete with cbs on Sunday who are/aren't Pro Bowl caliber.

In other words, our good CBs are helping groom our young wide receiver talent. See Ogletree and Hurd, among others.

 

[sureletsrace]

Interesting point raised by Jesse Holley on the Michael Irvin Show, with regards to Jenkins, and how he's happy that if he can make plays on Jenkins in practice, then he should be able to compete with cbs on Sunday who are/aren't Pro Bowl caliber.

In other words, our good CBs are helping groom our young wide receiver talent. See Ogletree and Hurd, among others.

Quoted for truth.

This is something I've been thinking about recently. RW11 needs to be matched up against Jenkins all offseason long. Makes me also wonder if RW11's lax came from being matched up against Newman and Scandrick this offseason, feeeling like he was beating the best. Now lets see what happens. Maybe he'll pick up his game when Ogletree is making plays that he's not.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Dallas should definitely protect the team and draft another CB.

Mid rounds Scandrick type who can be a player in a couple of years would be perfect.

 

[Don Corleone]

I don't mean to be overly critical, but Jenkins is playing 10 times better than Newman.

• Newman has never been a ball hawk. Jenkins is very much a ball hawk.
• Newman passes WRs off to a safety in coverage. Jenkins sticks with them like white on rice.
• Newman mouths off to coaches on the sideline after a busted play. Jenkins takes his coaching, learns from it, and moves on.

I liked Newman at one time, but 2 of his plays really rubbed me the wrong way this year, and I would feel better if his days were numbered. Those 2 plays were the Vincent Jackson TD, and the Rice TD in the Playoffs. His lazy butt needs to run with the WR even if there is a safety back in coverage. At the very least, jam the guy, but don't give him a free release and pass him on to a safety. I don't believe that is the design of the defense.

 

[tomson75]

I don't mean to be overly critical, but Jenkins is playing 10 times better than Newman.

• Newman has never been a ball hawk. Jenkins is very much a ball hawk.
• Newman passes WRs off to a safety in coverage. Jenkins sticks with them like white on rice.
• Newman mouths off to coaches on the sideline after a busted play. Jenkins takes his coaching, learns from it, and moves on.

I liked Newman at one time, but 2 of his plays really rubbed me the wrong way this year, and I would feel better if his days were numbered. Those 2 plays were the Vincent Jackson TD, and the Rice TD in the Playoffs. His lazy butt needs to run with the WR even if there is a safety back in coverage. At the very least, jam the guy, but don't give him a free release and pass him on to a safety. I don't believe that is the design of the defense.

I don't mean to be overly critical either, but your assessment is very poor. The exaggeration makes it almost juvenile. You've clearly based this more on feeling than fact. Were you one of Jenkins' detractors last year when that whiff against the gmen rubbed damn near everyone the wrong way? Have you noticed how basing an OPINION on a player based on a few bad plays can lead to an inaccurate assessment?

 

[Don Corleone]

I don't mean to be overly critical either, but your assessment is very poor. The exaggeration makes it almost juvenile. You've clearly based this more on feeling than fact. Were you one of Jenkins' detractors last year when that whiff against the gmen rubbed damn near everyone the wrong way? Have you noticed how basing an OPINION on a player based on a few bad plays can lead to an inaccurate assessment?

You're entitled to your opinion as I'm entitled to mine.

All players whiff, as Jenkins has done a couple of times. Jenkins is young, much younger than Newman.

I expect better from Newman. The fact is that his mental errors in coverage have been shown across media outlets everywhere, and discussed ad nauseum. I give Jenkins a pass, and gave him one last year. I expect better from a veteran like Newman.

Newman is a liability at the worst possible time in game situations. I could care less about how well he plays when the Cowboys are winning a game comfortably. The fact is that he is the weak link in coverage...and yes, that means with Hamlin out there also.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

• Newman has never been a ball hawk. Jenkins is very much a ball hawk.
• Newman passes WRs off to a safety in coverage. Jenkins sticks with them like white on rice.
• Newman mouths off to coaches on the sideline after a busted play. Jenkins takes his coaching, learns from it, and moves on.

I liked Newman at one time, but 2 of his plays really rubbed me the wrong way this year, and I would feel better if his days were numbered. Those 2 plays were the Vincent Jackson TD, and the Rice TD in the Playoffs. His lazy butt needs to run with the WR even if there is a safety back in coverage. At the very least, jam the guy, but don't give him a free release and pass him on to a safety. I don't believe that is the design of the defense.

Um, what? That passing off to the safety is the design of the coverage.

If the corner didn't do that, offenses would run people into that vacated zone and get 10-15 free yards (at least) every play.

 

[Don Corleone]

Um, what? That passing off to the safety is the design of the coverage.

If the corner didn't do that, offenses would run people into that vacated zone and get 10-15 free yards (at least) every play.

Passing off to a safety is the design of one type of coverage, but a disciplined corner gets a jam on the guy to help his safety out.

I have a hard time believing that the design is to just let the WR run right by with a clean release. FWIW, many of the mediots that played and/or coached the game thought the same thing, so I'm not alone.

 

[AdamJT13]

Passing off to a safety is the design of one type of coverage, but a disciplined corner gets a jam on the guy to help his safety out.

I have a hard time believing that the design is to just let the WR run right by with a clean release. FWIW, many of the mediots that played and/or coached the game thought the same thing, so I'm not alone.

You're not alone in being wrong, either.

 

[Sarge]

Jenkins may have had more picks, but Newman is still the #1 CB.

Negative on that.

 

[NeonNinja]

Negative on that.

Agree, Jenkins passed Newman as the best corner on this team this season. Newman is still a very good #2 corner, Jenkins ball skills are 10x that of Newman.

 

[utrunner07]

T New is a bigger joke than the Pro Bowl itself

You would know all about being a joke wouldn't you...

 

[DFWJC]

I like our corners, relatively speaking. But Pro Bowls selections do not at all mean you are actually the top players. I know, I'm just stating the obvious, but...just sayin.

 

[DFWJC]

1-800-Free safety

:laugh1: nice

 

[sonnyboy]

Passing off to a safety is the design of one type of coverage, but a disciplined corner gets a jam on the guy to help his safety out.

I have a hard time believing that the design is to just let the WR run right by with a clean release. FWIW, many of the mediots that played and/or coached the game thought the same thing, so I'm not alone.

Well straight from the horses mouth (Newman), that was the design of the defense. As you may have noticed, Newman was set up past 5 yards where NOT you're allowed to jam the defender.

The design of that particular defense was to pass the WR along to the safety. And you know what? It worked! Sensabaugh had perfect position/coverage on Rice and the pass probably shouldn't have been thrown!

I'm going to make a few common sense assumptions here:

Defenses try to do different things and mix up coverages in an attempt to confuse QBs on occasion.

What I think QBs see more often than not when a CB is jamming a WR, is cover 2 over the top with a safety.

When a CB is off 6-8 yards, it's perhaps more often single coverage.

What I THINK we were attempting to do is give Favre a single coverage look with Newman off 6 yards not jamming.
When in actual fact it is a double coverage type concept putting Sesabaugh in perfect position to defend Rice on a go route.

As I aready said, it worked. Rice ran a go route right into the teeth of our coverage.
Favre throws the go route thinking it was man coverage, right to a spot where Sensabaugh had great poasition to make a play!

It really should have been a win for the defense if Sensabaugh had simply made a play on the ball!

Yet this whole thing gets turned around to find a way to bash Newman further.

 

[sonnyboy]

I like our corners, relatively speaking. But Pro Bowls selections do not at all mean you are actually the top players. I know, I'm just stating the obvious, but...just sayin.

This is very true. But what it does mean is that you're not a liability. Or not even an average player. You almost have to be above average to at least good to get a PB invite.

So many on this site want to throw Newman under the bus. Want to spout off about how poor he is or that he's actually a liability.

There are 32 starting CBs in the NFC. Another 16 nickle CB who see plenty of snaps.

Only 4 CBs get named to the PB. I think Newman was the 6th or 7th guy and made it as an injury replacement.

A lot of players, coaches and fans though Newman was the 7th best of 32 starters.

Call me stupid but that sounds pretty good to me.

 

[DFWJC]

This is very true. But what it does mean is that you're not a liability. Or not even an average player. You almost have to be above average to at least good to get a PB invite.

So many on this site want to throw Newman under the bus. Want to spout off about how poor he is or that he's actually a liability.

There are 32 starting CBs in the NFC. Another 16 nickle CB who see plenty of snaps.

Only 4 CBs get named to the PB. I think Newman was the 6th or 7th guy and made it as an injury replacement.

A lot of players, coaches and fans though Newman was the 7th best of 32 starters.

Call me stupid but that sounds pretty good to me.

Yeah, I like what we have too (relatively speaking)....especially if Scandrick develops.